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March 05, 2014, 02:17:45 AM
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ImI don't worry with so many refunds maybe we will get twice the Neptunes and a special price to order more!


heck of a gamble when you can buy btc now for what a Neptune will make in its lifetime if it goes up even 20% a diff change (or so my calcs say)

I still think they were gonna make a gh farm in fall after the neptunes shipped....I think they have some inside knowledge of all the private gh farms

going to go online...and the chip half of knc around xmas said they likely will no longer be able to keep ahead of difficulty from chip design to shipping

to a consumer and they punted to a gh farm early

why.....the big hurry is my question?......

likely a lot more private gh farms are gonna jump on the next 3 months then we think imho (remember these guys are probably committed in that they started this when btc was 1000 bucks......it is already likely in the loop and they must complete it)

so interesting times as they say

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March 05, 2014, 02:48:19 AM
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In stock Neptunes jumped up again from 898 to 909. More refunds? Maybe.

I've got a few preorders with alpha-t.net, a Scrypt ASIC. I'm pretty impressed with their development updates (nearly weekly), along with a forum specifically for customers with all the questions answered, as well as their transparency with their process. It's too bad more manufacturers don't do similar methods.

I'm still keeping my CA batch orders. Better than BFL, CT, HF that's for sure. How they compare to Bitmain will really be a long term question, although I think KnC hardware will run much longer and be more profitable. We'll have to analyze that one down the line.

I have a thread on when the general memberbase thinks the Neptunes are shipping, and the majority feel it's April, which would line up the latest batch during Q2.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=384125.0

@Offtopic individuals, you guys should really keep on topic. Let's focus on KNC (I don't care if we talk about KNC conspiracy theories, facts, or whatever), there are venues available for other discussions.

april?! that wishful thinkin imo. i dont think they taped-out yet and from tape-out to production you can assume roughly 60 days. so lets say they tape-out in the coming weeks and need 60 days till the chips arrive. that means the chips arrive in mid may. then also assume that chips doenst mean everything is ready to deliver, you got to bring that thing to work somehow.
that leaves us to a delivered neptune in june, imo.

You guys know that if they had made any progress on these devices they would have said it on their site. The only news that they've dropped is about plan B. I really hope you guys get some hardware, but in all seriousness I just don't see them delivering anything by July. I think you guys are going to get 3T of cloud hashing as a consolation prize which completely sucks.


Geez really?? They have announced Plan B, the second they did that, their sense of urgency went right out the window, there is no rush now. The later they have to deliver on it, the more money they make.
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March 05, 2014, 02:53:30 AM
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Edit: Thinking about the future i found myself thinking about the consumables from our Jupiters. Are the fans running at 100%? How long till they start to die? Does anyone know the exact models of the fans? Are there any other consumables that i should stock up?

I'm using these fans for my over clocked units.... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A460TK6/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use zip ties to hold them onto the heat sinks...
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March 05, 2014, 03:47:26 AM
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Searing is in collusion with scammers if he himself isnt one. (which he seemingly is)


he can ignore whatever he likes


i have never, and will never expect nor wish for stolen coins as a reward or whatever - i dont want to join the darkside, thanks


nor will i ever attempt to cover up the dishonesty of members with multiple accounts used specifically for distortion/confusion & ultimately deception

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March 05, 2014, 07:36:46 AM
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anyone word at the knc forum about anything KNC related? Anyone?
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March 05, 2014, 08:28:24 AM
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anyone word at the knc forum about anything KNC related? Anyone?

the last useful bit of information was a support mail answer from emilia that "they hope the datacenter will be ready by end of april in case everything goes smooth" - read what you want from that....

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Update:

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-78

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March 05, 2014, 12:39:25 PM
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Someone translate what 1440 cores mean regarding the speed. Also 43% less power consumption means ~0.74W/GH at wall (1.3W/GH minus 43%)

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March 05, 2014, 12:59:12 PM
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Someone translate what 1440 cores mean regarding the speed. Also 43% less power consumption means ~0.74W/GH at wall (1.3W/GH minus 43%)


196 Cores in a Jupiter based on the November Jupiter of 680GH/s = 3.469GH/s per core x Neptune 1440 Cores = 4996.5GH/s

These are just my Numbers and are more than likely just Bullshit.

But the Neptune should be greater than 3TH/s.
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March 05, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
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So the tapeout is done. The outcome is awaited at the end of April.
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March 05, 2014, 01:14:45 PM
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So the tapeout is done. The outcome is awaited at the end of April.

Anyone remember when when the tapeout happened for 28nm?
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March 05, 2014, 01:20:43 PM
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Someone translate what 1440 cores mean regarding the speed. Also 43% less power consumption means ~0.74W/GH at wall (1.3W/GH minus 43%)


196 Cores in a Jupiter based on the November Jupiter of 680GH/s = 3.469GH/s per core x Neptune 1440 Cores = 4996.5GH/s

These are just my Numbers and are more than likely just Bullshit.

But the Neptune should be greater than 3TH/s.

A Jupiter has 4 asics, each with 196 cores, so 768 cores in total and approx 768/680GH/s = ~1.3GH/s per. core.

So they will most likely do  1.3GH/s per core x 1440 = 1872GH/s per. asic.

Neptune will have 2 asics and do 3744GH/s max with power consumption at 2770W ?
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Someone translate what 1440 cores mean regarding the speed. Also 43% less power consumption means ~0.74W/GH at wall (1.3W/GH minus 43%)


196 Cores in a Jupiter based on the November Jupiter of 680GH/s = 3.469GH/s per core x Neptune 1440 Cores = 4996.5GH/s

These are just my Numbers and are more than likely just Bullshit.

But the Neptune should be greater than 3TH/s.

A Jupiter has 4 asics, each with 196 cores, so 768 cores in total and approx 768/680GH/s = ~1.3GH/s per. core.

So they will most likely do  1.3GH/s per core x 1440 = 1872GH/s per. asic.

Neptune will have 2 asics and do 3744GH/s max with power consumption at 2770W ?

Only 2 asics? I missed that information. How are they gonna dissipate 1385W?

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March 05, 2014, 01:47:17 PM
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I believe in 4 asic. 55x55 case is too big for only 2 asic. Don't you think ?
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March 05, 2014, 02:07:23 PM
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KnC Announce ‘Tape out’ of the World’s first 20nm ASIC for Bitcoin Mining
 
STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN — March 5, 2014 –– KnC, the most trusted brand in Bitcoin Mining is announcing they
have completed ‘tape out’ of their new ASIC. This is the world’s first Bitcoin Mining Application Specific
Integrated Circuit (ASIC) designed using ground breaking 20 nanometer engineering. This important
milestone was achieved only 3 months after starting the project, during February 2014.
 
KnC partnered with Alchip and its representative, Advanced Semiconductors Technology (AST), to deliver
this advanced 20nm technology ASIC. This tapeout is the 2nd generation of the bitcoin mining ASIC following
the success of the 1st, which was delivered in a record time of 3.5 months.
 
This new KnC20nm chip will reduce power consumption of Bitcoin Mining by 43% when compared with the
previous generation. In addition, innovations in the design of the communications circuitry allow for 1440
cores, in a 55x55mm package.
 
Marcus Erlandson, KnC CTO, is immensely proud of the teams performance, “The combined efforts of KnC
and our partners Alchip means that once again we are bringing to market a world first silicon design and in
record time.”
 
Johnny Shen, President of Alchip. “KnC and Alchip have been working together on Bitcoin ASIC design for
less than 12 months and in that time we’ve already delivered 2 world-first projects. Collaboration is the key
here and the close working relationship between our teams is the secret to our success”
 
Bitcon is maturing and the technology that underpins the Bitcoin network is largely powered by KnC
hardware with devices sold in over 100 countries worldwide. To learn more about KnC, visit
www.kncminer.com
 
About KnC
KnC Group AB was founded in 2013 and have their headquarters in the tech hub of Stockholm, Sweden.
They specialise in building leading edge hardware that secure the transactions for the distributed Bitcoin
Network.
For more information  visit www.kncminer.com
 
About Alchip
Founded in 2003, Alchip Technologies Ltd. is a leading provider of silicon design and manufacturing services
for companies developing complex and high-volume system-on-chip (SoC) designs. Alchip’s products are
mainly used in current HDTV, mobile phones, networking, computers, entertainment and other consumer
electronics devices. It provides ASIC design and manufacturing services intended to enable customers to
cost-effectively address the technological complexity of silicon design and the need to reduce time to
market.For more information: www.alchip.com
 
About AST
Advanced Semiconductor Technologies (AST) was established in 1986 as the first independent Application
Specific Integrated Circuits (ASIC) Design Center in Israel and has since become the Representative of major
ASIC vendors as well as IP and EDA suppliers and Applications Specific Standard Product (ASSP)
companies.AST's highly skilled Sales and Application Engineers combine over 200 years of experience;
Turn-Key services as well as on site support and consulting are provided, in the areas of ASIC and FPGA
Design, EDA IT, CAD and Design Management. For more information: www.ast.co.il
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March 05, 2014, 02:33:51 PM
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'tape out' completed  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
this was totally unexpected, now I'm excited  Cheesy

Joeventura and his insider information has been wrong with his predictions that there wasn't going to be a physical miner, and I was actually starting to beleive him.

So how long does it take to slice and package wafers?  Anyone?

ok ok you can come back Orama...  this is good news and we can all be friends again  Tongue Kiss
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March 05, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
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Great news!

@ Avenger, you wasted so much time over the last month spreading and speculating FUD, it was unbelievable funny how much built up anger you have. 
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March 05, 2014, 02:54:03 PM
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I asked if the miners could be taken out of hosting and sent to me early, i then got told this could not happen and the miners were to stay in hosting until the hosting contract has ran out........ seems most strange to me, unless they are running extra boards from my control boards or they have over clocked my boards and i just get a % of the generated hashrate. Either way, i did not like being told i could not have what i paid for, until another service i had paid for runs out.

Hosted jupiters are probably ASIC boards on a shelf


The positioning of those screw fixtures are quite strange I have to say. They look like diagonal variants of the positions in the jupiters, 4 x board 2 x heatsink but diagonal.

I am aware my boards are just on a shelf, this s how i had 9 x 8vrm boards set up personally.

This news about the Tapout makes these screw fixture layout even more interesting Wink
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March 05, 2014, 03:08:21 PM
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Great news!

@ Avenger, you wasted so much time over the last month spreading and speculating FUD, it was unbelievable funny how much built up anger you have.  

I agree that the 20nm tapeout is great news for Knc, but they aren't out of the woods yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape-out

First tapeout is rarely the end of work for the design team. Most chips will go through a set of spins in which fixes are implemented after testing the first article. Many different factors can cause a spin, including:
- The taped-out design fails final checks at the foundry due to problems manufacturing the design itself.
- The design is successfully fabricated, but the first article fails functionality tests.


Their execution was nearly flawless with 28nm chips, so the next month will show if lightning can strike twice with their 20nm product.
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March 05, 2014, 03:18:03 PM
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great. first batch shipping is likely to start at least by the end of May.
second batch by the end of June. Cool

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