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February 26, 2014, 10:48:28 PM
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Devil's Advocate: The possibility that there could actually be some sort of tampering, and that he actually is right. Afterall, the Bitcoin Foundation has /a lot more/ to lose than 500BnUSD if that's the case.


but the malleability doesn't steal in itself.. it is just like making fake receipts.  Mt Gox still had to process the second withdrawal via customer service.  There is no way that a business goes bankrupt from the returns counter unless everyone is in on it or it is just a weak coverup.

This scam runs deep and once the FBI is finally done with their SR investigation we may know a lot more on this...  it seems there are a few combinations of scam going on. Karpeles has been in denial or complicit for a long time.. probably a bit of both

The the resend on the withdrawls where fully automated. No CS was involved.
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February 26, 2014, 11:38:13 PM
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Devil's Advocate: The possibility that there could actually be some sort of tampering, and that he actually is right. Afterall, the Bitcoin Foundation has /a lot more/ to lose than 500BnUSD if that's the case.


but the malleability doesn't steal in itself.. it is just like making fake receipts.  Mt Gox still had to process the second withdrawal via customer service.  There is no way that a business goes bankrupt from the returns counter unless everyone is in on it or it is just a weak coverup.

This scam runs deep and once the FBI is finally done with their SR investigation we may know a lot more on this...  it seems there are a few combinations of scam going on. Karpeles has been in denial or complicit for a long time.. probably a bit of both

The the resend on the withdrawls where fully automated. No CS was involved.


too bad they didn't double pay my neptune purchase.



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February 27, 2014, 01:56:26 AM
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Had a surprisingly hard time finding this so just linking it for anyone that did not see it.

Film from KNC datacenter
http://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/1.2276893-datorhall-for-bitcoin-byggs-i-boden

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February 27, 2014, 03:24:22 AM
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Welp, I gotsta pay for some bills, I can either sell BTC or get a refund for a Neptune. I chose the latter. Just put in my refund request. We'll see how it goes tomorrow

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February 27, 2014, 05:13:52 AM
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Had a surprisingly hard time finding this so just linking it for anyone that did not see it.

Film from KNC datacenter
http://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/1.2276893-datorhall-for-bitcoin-byggs-i-boden

That's been a fairly popular post of late. Someone even posted an English translation of the web page.

Oh well, from the ads at least it's nice to know what "toilet" is in Swedish: toaletten.

Some days it feels like that's where K and C are putting we the customer: in the toaletten.
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February 27, 2014, 01:43:02 PM
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Looks like some people are being children again and marking various responses for deletion and asking the moderators to delete them..

This thread for well over 1,400 pages has been mixed topic, KNC abandoned it and doesn't care. It's surprising someone would bother moderating the topic, or that people here still don't like the truth and ask for certain posts to be removed.

I'd ask for KNC to provide us updates but, I don't think many folks here care that much anymore (I don't), and we know KNC won't provide them anyhow.

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February 27, 2014, 01:48:22 PM
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Looks like some people are being children again and marking various responses for deletion and asking the moderators to delete them..

This thread for well over 1,400 pages has been mixed topic, KNC abandoned it and doesn't care. It's surprising someone would bother moderating the topic, or that people here still don't like the truth and ask for certain posts to be removed.

I'd ask for KNC to provide us updates but, I don't think many folks here care that much anymore (I don't), and we know KNC won't provide them anyhow.

i amazes me how someone would waste the time to complain to moderate posts rather than just scrolling past a post or 2.

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February 27, 2014, 02:21:31 PM
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I suppose some folks don't have a better outlet for the pain of losing BTC/fiat by siding with KNC.

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February 27, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
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Had a surprisingly hard time finding this so just linking it for anyone that did not see it.

Film from KNC datacenter
http://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/1.2276893-datorhall-for-bitcoin-byggs-i-boden

That's been a fairly popular post of late. Someone even posted an English translation of the web page.

Oh well, from the ads at least it's nice to know what "toilet" is in Swedish: toaletten.

Some days it feels like that's where K and C are putting we the customer: in the toaletten.

After seeing that video and then looking at my tiny Terrahash of ANTS whats the point! That is just insane.
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February 27, 2014, 03:34:08 PM
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Has anyone been able to get a BTC refund for a single Neptune? I even suggested ordering another unit and immediately asking refund on both, if they only refund multiple unit cancellations in BTC. They categorigally refused. Embarrassed
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February 27, 2014, 03:48:12 PM
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Has anyone been able to get a BTC refund for a single Neptune? I even suggested ordering another unit and immediately asking refund on both, if they only refund multiple unit cancellations in BTC. They categorigally refused. Embarrassed

My experience shows that only orders bought with BTC is refunded in BTC. of my 4 orders i got refunded in BTC for 2 orders i paid in BTC.

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February 27, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
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Has anyone been able to get a BTC refund for a single Neptune? I even suggested ordering another unit and immediately asking refund on both, if they only refund multiple unit cancellations in BTC. They categorigally refused. Embarrassed

There've been 10 or more people who have gotten refunds in BTC, some of them paid in BTC, some paid in bank transfer.

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February 27, 2014, 03:58:37 PM
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Has anyone been able to get a BTC refund for a single Neptune? I even suggested ordering another unit and immediately asking refund on both, if they only refund multiple unit cancellations in BTC. They categorigally refused. Embarrassed

My experience shows that only orders bought with BTC is refunded in BTC. of my 4 orders i got refunded in BTC for 2 orders i paid in BTC.

I paid in BTC. The sales representative mentioned that BTC refund required a managerial decision, but they also refused to give the email address of a manager who has the power to authorize BTC refund. Does anyone have an email address I could appeal my case to?
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February 27, 2014, 09:50:39 PM
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I paid in BTC. The sales representative mentioned that BTC refund required a managerial decision, but they also refused to give the email address of a manager who has the power to authorize BTC refund. Does anyone have an email address I could appeal my case to?
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February 27, 2014, 10:08:34 PM
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Has anyone been able to get a BTC refund for a single Neptune? I even suggested ordering another unit and immediately asking refund on both, if they only refund multiple unit cancellations in BTC. They categorigally refused. Embarrassed

My experience shows that only orders bought with BTC is refunded in BTC. of my 4 orders i got refunded in BTC for 2 orders i paid in BTC.

I paid in BTC. The sales representative mentioned that BTC refund required a managerial decision, but they also refused to give the email address of a manager who has the power to authorize BTC refund. Does anyone have an email address I could appeal my case to?

Same here.  Paid in BTC, BTC refund refused.

I'd offer to sell the order to someone here for BTC (it's from the first day of the first $10k "CA" batch), but I don't think they allow order transfers either.

"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
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February 27, 2014, 10:19:09 PM
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Same here.  Paid in BTC, BTC refund refused.

I'd offer to sell the order to someone here for BTC (it's from the first day of the first $10k "CA" batch), but I don't think they allow order transfers either.

I just wanted to comment on your signature line: "All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933"

The government has done it before. What's to stop them from doing it again?

My family HATED Franklin Delano Roosevelt and felt great relief when they heard on the radio that he had finally died.
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February 28, 2014, 12:35:00 AM
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I'd ask for KNC to provide us updates but, I don't think many folks here care that much anymore (I don't), and we know KNC won't provide them anyhow.

We shall see, but the thought that we essentially provided an interest free loan is infuriating.
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February 28, 2014, 01:04:23 AM
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Common people these chips cost $5 to make them each and are sold for 1000 each is it so hard to know how its done
The guys who bought the first batch of neptunes paid the whole design and prebuild phase and the next batch gave them another huge boost to buy even more chips
All that idiot stories that its expenssive to make asics should contact any fab, these things cost crap they are not cpu's but the most stupid chips on the planet.
I can not tell it often enough in big numbers they cost even less then a few dollars, we paid far over $1000 each
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February 28, 2014, 04:19:14 AM
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Common people these chips cost $5 to make them each and are sold for 1000 each is it so hard to know how its done
The guys who bought the first batch of neptunes paid the whole design and prebuild phase and the next batch gave them another huge boost to buy even more chips
All that idiot stories that its expenssive to make asics should contact any fab, these things cost crap they are not cpu's but the most stupid chips on the planet.
I can not tell it often enough in big numbers they cost even less then a few dollars, we paid far over $1000 each

Thats not correct. A typical full ASIC design is very expensive.  You have licenses to pay, design costs, foundry costs, wafer, packaging, IP, the list is endless.

One point to consider is that designing a 20nm is vastly different to a 28nm design. In fact a 20nm design is not really economically viable in terms of bitcoin mining and implementation (at this point in time).
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February 28, 2014, 05:38:25 AM
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Looks like some people are being children again and marking various responses for deletion and asking the moderators to delete them..

This thread for well over 1,400 pages has been mixed topic, KNC abandoned it and doesn't care. It's surprising someone would bother moderating the topic, or that people here still don't like the truth and ask for certain posts to be removed.

I'd ask for KNC to provide us updates but, I don't think many folks here care that much anymore (I don't), and we know KNC won't provide them anyhow.

yep i agree....don't like the posts on mtgox issues that is for sure...what mine we're deleted for

ah well....keep us in a bubble so we keep the neptune orders i suppose is sthe logic

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