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February 24, 2014, 03:24:23 AM
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Very clever! I "respect" them as businessman. That's how business works. The strongest dog fucks...

Not very clever. That's how wire fraud works.

If they took money to build a 20nm mining machine from Americans, and don't deliver because they spent it on something else, expect to be extradited by the FBI shortly! Hopefully they will have something by the end Q2 2014 or they buy a nice house in Russia/South America. Grin

yeah...but you notice the above applied to Butterfly labs when the federal trade commission types I and others contacted about not getting equip from BFL the response was "what are you talking about ...you got the equip in 11 months etc"

ie the laws say one thing but 'regulators' like cop's do the enforcement...this was true up and down the line from paypal exec committee to BBB (although they have no power)

so.....

same would apply here in the usa if what you say is true above

although I did hear that some people in the EU got $$$ back but not in the states

so I assume if KNC shows they can deliver 'equiv' hash rate in their Q1/Q2 timeline...their a*ss is covered assuming your scam accusations like bfl does are correct

my 2c worth

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February 24, 2014, 08:46:06 AM
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Very clever! I "respect" them as businessman. That's how business works. The strongest dog fucks...

Not very clever. That's how wire fraud works.

If they took money to build a 20nm mining machine from Americans, and don't deliver because they spent it on something else, expect to be extradited by the FBI shortly! Hopefully they will have something by the end Q2 2014 or they buy a nice house in Russia/South America. Grin

This is the problem with scammers and their admirers, they think that deciving people is clever.

its not clever, its easy and its cuntish.

IE - only cunts do it



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 Feb 19 15:42

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10,253 USD had been sent from our bank account. You may need to talk to your bank and ask them to tell you the exchange rate they used.
Your bank may have also issued you a charge for converting USD to GBP. We cannot control the exchange rate that your bank uses.

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February 24, 2014, 09:44:53 AM
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what stategy must put better

LOAD BALANCE
OR

FAILOVER?HuhHuhHuhHuh?/


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February 24, 2014, 10:42:04 AM
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what stategy must put better

LOAD BALANCE
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FAILOVER?HuhHuhHuhHuh?/


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Personally I "fail over".
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February 24, 2014, 11:13:25 AM
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link to KNC wallet. http://beta.kncwallet.com/

I think they are trying to compete with their friend Josh at BFL and their wallet idea.

I don't see a link to the sources. It is based on GPL sources, and thus must be made available.

It's based on Andreas Schildbach's android wallet:

from the faq: http://www.kncwallet.com/faq.htm
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What is the KnC Wallet?
The KnC Wallet is based on the open souce Android Wallet from Andreas Schildbach and brings a new user experience and integration with the KnC Directory to make finding your Bitcoin contacts simple and easy.

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Is it secure?
The core elements of the KnC Wallet are based on the Android Wallet that has been downloaded over 100K times. The code is open source and we believe that the application is secure.

Tricky sentence, but I guess "The code is open source" refers to Andreas code, and not KnCwallet.
(no reference found on github for kncwallet)


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February 24, 2014, 11:19:03 AM
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link to KNC wallet. http://beta.kncwallet.com/

I think they are trying to compete with their friend Josh at BFL and their wallet idea.

Wait, it's closed source and you can only download and install executable application?

Who in their right mind would install that, instead of open-sourced and battle tested blockchain.info Android wallet?
https://github.com/blockchain/My-Wallet-Android
https://blockchain.info/wallet

It looks like KnC has trying to establish it's identity, floating between hardware manufacturer, software vendor and service provider (Datacenter). You can't be all things at once, even Google sold it's hardware manufacturing business (Motorola) to others.

OT, but Google kept all the Motorola paintents in the sale deal and basically only sold the brand name.

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February 24, 2014, 11:52:02 AM
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When they'll ship in your opinion? I have a 1° batch order 121xx.
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February 24, 2014, 02:23:27 PM
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When they'll ship in your opinion? I have a 1° batch order 121xx.


better be around april 1st or i'm out...(i know its doubtful i should pull my $$$ now)


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February 24, 2014, 03:04:11 PM
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link to KNC wallet. http://beta.kncwallet.com/

I think they are trying to compete with their friend Josh at BFL and their wallet idea.

I use to tell my friends that keeping their bitcoins at MtGox was as safe as any other choice.  God does it look like I was wrong.



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February 24, 2014, 03:06:04 PM
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link to KNC wallet. http://beta.kncwallet.com/

I think they are trying to compete with their friend Josh at BFL and their wallet idea.

I use to tell my friends that keeping their bitcoins at MtGox was as safe as any other choice.  God does it look like I was wrong.

How can giving ownership of your private keys to someone else be 'as safe as any other choice'  Roll Eyes

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February 24, 2014, 03:09:04 PM
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link to KNC wallet. http://beta.kncwallet.com/

I think they are trying to compete with their friend Josh at BFL and their wallet idea.

I use to tell my friends that keeping their bitcoins at MtGox was as safe as any other choice.  God does it look like I was wrong.

  Shocked

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg4921836#msg4921836


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February 24, 2014, 03:48:27 PM
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link to KNC wallet. http://beta.kncwallet.com/

I think they are trying to compete with their friend Josh at BFL and their wallet idea.

I use to tell my friends that keeping their bitcoins at MtGox was as safe as any other choice.  God does it look like I was wrong.

How can giving ownership of your private keys to someone else be 'as safe as any other choice'  Roll Eyes

Paper wallets created by a clean computer off the Internet is the only safe storage of coin.

Lord knows the way things are going someone will figure a way to muck that up too

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February 24, 2014, 06:06:18 PM
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Tricky sentence, but I guess "The code is open source" refers to Andreas code, and not KnCwallet.
(no reference found on github for kncwallet)

There's nothing tricky about it. If they use any of Andreas' GPL sources, then their code is also GPL. KnCWallet by definition is open source and the sources must be released. Furthermore, the EULA they require is illegal for a GPL project.

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I finaly received the activation code aobut 1 and 1/2 hours later.  Entered the code and it's working.  No $5.00 worth of bitcoin.  Guess I am not one of the first 1,000 user.

Seriously, why in the world would KNC want their own wallet program? How does it benefit them?


I could think of several venues:

1. the will make this 'wallet' a default for planB
2. they will get money from those who will send ads to people with bitcoin
3. they want to help snooping by those who think they are entitled to it (what do we know about this company anyway?)
4. they will charge you a little extra for bitcoin transfers
5. they want to become a bitcoin bank with possible P2P lending. afterall, Kinemaar background is in banking IT.

Why would anyone use online, internet wallets, smart phone wallets, or keeping their BTC's online is asking for trouble.  If you do, you are at their (exchanges') dictatorship.  Look at Mtgox, BTC-E or any online wallet/exchanges.    Can't withdrawal BTC or cash means your BTC is worthless.  I keep a majority (of my BTC's) on my QT and transfer a few (into exchanges) just before I sell; in and out.

I do the same. I'd never keep coin in an "online" type wallet or at an exchange. Just asking for trouble. Because of Mt.Gox there are probably a lot of "bitcoin rich" people out there that can't cash out. So in reality that coin is worthless right now. I can't even follow Mt.Gox. Threads pop up every minute and no one knows anything.

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February 25, 2014, 02:27:50 AM
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link to KNC wallet. http://beta.kncwallet.com/

I think they are trying to compete with their friend Josh at BFL and their wallet idea.

just noticed they also have this URL: http://www.kncwallet.com/

I'd buy one instantly if they'd do me the favor of having MtGox transfer my btc into the new KnC wallet!



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February 25, 2014, 02:52:13 AM
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Bitstamp price has hit $500

at this rate we'd be able to buy 20+ BTC for a Neptune refund

KNC better start production soon and think about giving us a definitive date of delivery.

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February 25, 2014, 02:59:52 AM
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Bitstamp price has hit $500

at this rate we'd be able to buy 20+ BTC for a Neptune refund

KNC better start production soon and think about giving us a definitive date of delivery.



That is the only sensible course of action at this time. Neptune will not mine back 20 in its lifetime

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February 25, 2014, 03:36:49 AM
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Bitstamp price has hit $500

at this rate we'd be able to buy 20+ BTC for a Neptune refund

KNC better start production soon and think about giving us a definitive date of delivery.



That is the only sensible course of action at this time. Neptune will not mine back 20 in its lifetime

OT - but it looks like Gox just bit it: http://blog.coinbase.com/post/77766809700/joint-statement-regarding-the-insolvency-of-mtgox. Site is down and probably not coming back.
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February 25, 2014, 03:39:09 AM
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Bitstamp at 489
Bottom at ?
Another link:
http://blog.blockchain.info/2014/02/25/joint-statement/
This (MtGox) will pull down bitcoin for months if not years.
I wonder what will happen to mining farms?
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February 25, 2014, 03:46:09 AM
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Not sure if this is real, but it looks like it: http://www.scribd.com/doc/209050732/MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft  - sorry, more OT, but it has a huge impact on everyone if true.
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