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March 17, 2014, 07:15:47 PM
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As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.

Weren't they supposed to have those specs this week, at least the live data? They said 15 days or so until they had all that. Maybe I'm off..

Lack of communication, and conflicting information when they do communicate, is in itself self-spread FUD.

this snip from the actual knc forum may help if just a tiny bit...



so, YES, we will need PSU's
Fortunately, I have a stack of them here... hopefully a couple ax1200's cover it, if not, I'll get creative, lol


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March 17, 2014, 07:39:26 PM
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FWIW I requested a refund Feb 26, included all details (my bank provided me a printout of all the information required) including SWIFT and ABA codes.  I received my refund on March 5th.
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March 17, 2014, 07:44:22 PM
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so, YES, we will need PSU's
Fortunately, I have a stack of them here... hopefully a couple ax1200's cover it, if not, I'll get creative, lol

So you still have some on order then? I thought you got a refund for all yours? Or did you buy some more?

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March 17, 2014, 07:52:02 PM
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As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.

In 2 Weeks they are officialy in delay. according to their Network protection Statement, where they spelled to start shipping their nextgen devices in march 2014.

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March 17, 2014, 08:07:11 PM
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As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.

In 2 Weeks they are officialy in delay. according to their Network protection Statement, where they spelled to start shipping their nextgen devices in march 2014.

Lol. Network Protection Statement.

The thing they failed to uphold since Dec 2013?

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March 17, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
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As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.

In 2 Weeks they are officialy in delay. according to their Network protection Statement, where they spelled to start shipping their nextgen devices in march 2014.

Oh, I am sure we will hear something in the next two weeks. At least technical details will be there, but as far as shipping is concerned, they will say something less clear, in my opinion. However, $3599/Th on April 10 from at least one competitor is a huge incentive for KnC to accelerate the rollout. It has to be above 3.66TH/Neptune (batch 1, not CA) at mid April to be competitive before some adjustment for probably 30% lower electrical costs, but adding costs for PSU and cabling.
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March 17, 2014, 08:15:12 PM
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so, YES, we will need PSU's
Fortunately, I have a stack of them here... hopefully a couple ax1200's cover it, if not, I'll get creative, lol

So you still have some on order then? I thought you got a refund for all yours? Or did you buy some more?
Yeah, was true, I refunded two units in one order, and resold 3 ...  but I bought one back (smile)
wish I hadn't sold the other two now.
But I got back the #1 known Neptune order, which is the one I really wanted to keep;
and I got lucky in the sense, the owner was thinking on refunding when I emailed him.
Sweet.


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March 17, 2014, 09:40:29 PM
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They must be busy building their new Bitcoin WHQ in Boden.

In one video they said they have 5000 square meters with miners now, and they are building another 9000 square meters before the summer.

Does really nobody have a copy of that video?
http://www.gp.se/nyheter/sverige/1.2276893-datorhall-for-bitcoin-byggs-i-boden

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meeeh, it seems that only Phoenix1969 remain from core of KNC fanboys.)
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March 18, 2014, 10:39:41 AM
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so, YES, we will need PSU's
Fortunately, I have a stack of them here... hopefully a couple ax1200's cover it, if not, I'll get creative, lol

So you still have some on order then? I thought you got a refund for all yours? Or did you buy some more?
Yeah, was true, I refunded two units in one order, and resold 3 ...  but I bought one back (smile)
wish I hadn't sold the other two now.
But I got back the #1 known Neptune order, which is the one I really wanted to keep;
and I got lucky in the sense, the owner was thinking on refunding when I emailed him.
Sweet.

So you are happy you got to keep the most expensive order?

When in April, May or June will that happiness fade?

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March 18, 2014, 10:41:39 AM
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As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.

In 2 Weeks they are officialy in delay. according to their Network protection Statement, where they spelled to start shipping their nextgen devices in march 2014.

You'll be a KNCCloud.com customer in less than 2 weeks, it's exciting isn't it?

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March 18, 2014, 12:27:41 PM
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if they give 3000GH to me hosted i'll be happy, 13btc/3000 = 0.00434btc per GH

if they give 4000GH to me hosted i'll be even happier 13btc/4000 = 0.00325 per GH

based on a pretty static 25% increase, depending when delivered they may still be profitable. If it is in the next 2 weeks they could do quite well at 3THPS.

the last few difficult changes have struggled to meet 25% apart from once.

Mar 13 2014   4,250,217,920   11.39%   30,424,245 GH/s
Feb 28 2014   3,815,723,799   21.92%   27,314,015 GH/s
Feb 17 2014   3,129,573,175   19.39%   22,402,357 GH/s
Feb 05 2014   2,621,404,453   19.49%   18,764,744 GH/s
Jan 24 2014   2,193,847,870   22.59%   15,704,175 GH/s
Jan 13 2014   1,789,546,951   26.16%   12,810,076 GH/s
Jan 02 2014   1,418,481,395   20.12%   10,153,885 GH/s


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March 18, 2014, 12:37:54 PM
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As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.

In 2 Weeks they are officialy in delay. according to their Network protection Statement, where they spelled to start shipping their nextgen devices in march 2014.

You'll be a KNCCloud.com customer in less than 2 weeks, it's exciting isn't it?

Exciting that buyers will be compensated for any delay with the hosting package until their Neptune is ready if they want to keep waiting. Win-Win. Cheesy

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March 18, 2014, 01:11:00 PM
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As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.

In 2 Weeks they are officialy in delay. according to their Network protection Statement, where they spelled to start shipping their nextgen devices in march 2014.

I've thought this as well but have been beat up on my memory of this in this thread....do you have a link? people claim they always said Q1/Q2 but as a very early order I don't remember that (i also paid via paypal which i was not supposed to be able to do and had to resubmit a wire xfer ...kept my place in line thou...so maybe the Q1 thing i saw was a mistake and pulled..if my memory is correct)

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so, YES, we will need PSU's
Fortunately, I have a stack of them here... hopefully a couple ax1200's cover it, if not, I'll get creative, lol

So you still have some on order then? I thought you got a refund for all yours? Or did you buy some more?
Yeah, was true, I refunded two units in one order, and resold 3 ...  but I bought one back (smile)
wish I hadn't sold the other two now.
But I got back the #1 known Neptune order, which is the one I really wanted to keep;
and I got lucky in the sense, the owner was thinking on refunding when I emailed him.
Sweet.


good for you we can all play chicken and see how long we can hold on to the last neptune..sort a 'dead man's club" kinda
thing.....(not sure anyone would really win if it drags out but what the heck)

Searing


As it stands now, i see that KnC fell under clouhashing spell and with large datacenters like datorhall or cointerra-supported cloudhashing, the only companies that  ostensibly support network diversification are, paradoxically, chinese bitmain and asicminer (will BA deliver on time-who knows?).

As it stands now, i am completely dumbfound how this all came about with KnC.
With no electrical, power, time of delivery and anything else on march 17, options are getting narrow.

In 2 Weeks they are officialy in delay. according to their Network protection Statement, where they spelled to start shipping their nextgen devices in march 2014.

Oh, I am sure we will hear something in the next two weeks. At least technical details will be there, but as far as shipping is concerned, they will say something less clear, in my opinion. However, $3599/Th on April 10 from at least one competitor is a huge incentive for KnC to accelerate the rollout. It has to be above 3.66TH/Neptune (batch 1, not CA) at mid April to be competitive before some adjustment for probably 30% lower electrical costs, but adding costs for PSU and cabling.

+1 agree..what i find interesting is if I punt my last neptune back i will probably buy half the $$$ i had in the miner in BTC...jeez am I that obvious...some real 'psych' issues with that logic....hmmmm...iIcan put 10.2k down on a miner...but 10.2k all on BTC and my gonads shrink and I wuss out.....(silly humans we are soooooo funny)

go figure ..but yeah gonna be jump out of the plane here fast if this keeps up (at least knc will give you a parachute ie refund..unlike BFL which set the plane and you on fire then tossed you out...14' off the ground when going warp 1..er imho)

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March 18, 2014, 05:42:38 PM
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In 2 Weeks they are officialy in delay. according to their Network protection Statement, where they spelled to start shipping their nextgen devices in march 2014.

<snip loads of people excited about getting cloud hashing in 2 weeks>

Whilst that statement did say they would start shipping the new generation in march, it was made long before the neptune announcement.

The only promise made to neptune buyers at the time of purchase was Q1/Q2 delivery

If you get your machine before July 1st* they aren't late, so don't expect any cloud hashing before then.

*Some have noted that the second batch also promised Q1/Q2 and shipping a month after the customer batch, in which case the late date becomes June 1st which is still 2.5 months away.

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so, YES, we will need PSU's
Fortunately, I have a stack of them here... hopefully a couple ax1200's cover it, if not, I'll get creative, lol

So you still have some on order then? I thought you got a refund for all yours? Or did you buy some more?
Yeah, was true, I refunded two units in one order, and resold 3 ...  but I bought one back (smile)
wish I hadn't sold the other two now.
But I got back the #1 known Neptune order, which is the one I really wanted to keep;
and I got lucky in the sense, the owner was thinking on refunding when I emailed him.
Sweet.

So you are happy you got to keep the most expensive order?

When in April, May or June will that happiness fade?

You mean cheapest, don't you?  
It's a C.A Batch, and the very first known order...
Not only that, If we were talking Fiat, I bought it back for about 700 dollars cheaper than I originally paid for it from KNC.
It was a great deal for both of us... he made out in coin, I made out in fiat.
You forget too, that this is all btc profits. My original investment is long since withdrawn, and spent.
This is about having fun now.  Grin
I'll most likely mine with it for awhile, then do my norm....

Cloud hashing?   Bring it on!
I don't give a shit where the hashpower comes from, but my guess is that many people in here will be shocked Mid-April when they start shipping Neptunes, and selling & trading hashpower in the cloud like CEX with the Boden Facility; where I hope I can buy some of that too. Who knows, they may offer more hashpower if you decide to take the cloud offer instead of or in lieu of a Neptune.
BUT... Remember, they taped out mid Feb, and Boden was plan "B", so unless something goes terribly wrong with the PCB's or VRM's, it won't be long before we see another video like the one when Jupiter came out. (my guess is the only questionable bottleneck vould be VRM supply)as in having the physical parts. I remember somewhere reading they may be making their own VRM's, anyone remember that?
We shall see a month from now.
It's the "Ides of March", bringing on a war.....  hehe


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March 18, 2014, 06:48:56 PM
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Cloudhashing at a good price might be a decent option for some. I'm running 2 THASH of Ants and my house is freaking loud and HOT! With the summer coming I don't know what the heck I'm going to do.
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No clouding is awful
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2.5+TH bitfury, shipping now.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg5751682#msg5751682
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March 18, 2014, 08:28:54 PM
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I'm running 2 THASH of Ants and my house is freaking loud and HOT! With the summer coming I don't know what the heck I'm going to do.

Sell them.  I'll take them off your hands for the current S1 price minus 10% since they're used.

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