Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Syke]

that could have been done weeks ago... it wasn't.  Nobody wants to assemble something that will never function, and we've been waiting for this...  I'd bet on it. It's an obvious teaser! I'm stoked!

[The Avenger]

i tend to agree that it is probably just a mock up as well.

Looks like professional studio photos, rather than just some snaps they took themselves. So if they were taken at a professional studio, at the very least a few days if not a week ago. So indeed likely to be a mock up.

[Meizirkki]

...a pi would be useless..

I'm not sure how/why you believe a Pi would be useless..

Because his fanboy-brain doesn't see how something KnC excluded from their supreme miners could be useful for anything.

He is right tho, that they are using OrSoc's embedded linux board. That was posted long times ago

[DeathAndTaxes]

yeah, so why wait 5 weeks to do a mockup when you had the materials?  I disagree..... respectfully.

... it was a low priority
... they sent it to a studio to have it done right
... they bought a lightbox as they didn't like the quality of existing photos which will be more important as they get closer to retail
... they were waiting on the cable harnesses which will be used in production from the OEM
... they had some unreported issues they wanted resolved before taking photos

I don't know take your pick.

Having chips in hand would be a pretty massive deal.  I am pretty sure KNC isn't going to keep that a secret.  Why would they?
They want unsure customers on the edge to cancel orders?  
They are hoping Nov orders will slow down because they just have too much revenue?  
They want FUDers to drive sales to competitors by questioning the lack of chips?
They want to take more time out of their carefree days to answer emails about "when will the chips arrived"?

[Phoenix1969]

maybe they just have Pi syndrome.... a fettish known to miners as the MacGuyver way of doing things, which was adapted as standard in the field, until a real asic manufacturer came on the scene. Words like "embedded linux" just confuses the hell out of them.  

[Phoenix1969]

A better question might be "What could a PI do for a knc miner"?
What would be the reason?

[jimrome]

A better question might be "What could a PI do for a knc miner"?
What would be the reason?

I don't know, maybe it's:
- a proven linux platform ideal for the application
- well supported in the community (see Minepeon)
- well supported technically outside the community, with thousands of applications and many developers
- cheap

[vesperwillow]

It's likely a simple mockup to show the straightaway to the finish line. It's not like there's a ritual involved in sitting heatsinks/fans on top of a PCB. You sit them on top. Done. At worst, take 1 minute to screw them in place.

I've taken photos which look like that. I'm not a professional picture studio. I'm sure they're capable of wielding a 15mp camera.

As to why they might hold back on news of having chips/installing them? Underpromise / overdeliver

My theory is this: They won't announce anything. They'll simply start providing tracking numbers to customers. Let the customers spread the word like fire to a pinetree farm. That'll be the best announcement which could ever be made.

Paul Revere's ride would hold nothing compared to KNC customers screaming they have tracking numbers.

[Phoenix1969]

A better question might be "What could a PI do for a knc miner"?
What would be the reason?

A better question might be "What could a PI do for a knc miner"?
What would be the reason?

I don't know, maybe it's:
- a proven linux platform ideal for the application
- well supported in the community (see Minepeon)
- well supported technically outside the community, with thousands of applications and many developers
- cheap

I don't know, maybe it's:
- a proven linux platform ideal for the application
..................  which requires re-flashing & programming a PI, and separate power & data connections.
- well supported in the community (see Minepeon)
.................. Exactly... The "Community" has been using it as a workaround to having an actual computer connected to the miners... "Macguyvered."
- well supported technically outside the community, with thousands of applications and many developers
.................. But not needed, and an extra device to deal with
- cheap
.................  Yet it is extra cost AND time to set up, and by no means needed.


Forgive me, but using a Pi on a KNC seems a huge waste of time, resources, and equipment you already paid for, and for no advantage since the embedded so-dimm module already has everything you need, and more.

[jimrome]

A better question might be "What could a PI do for a knc miner"?
What would be the reason?

A better question might be "What could a PI do for a knc miner"?
What would be the reason?

I don't know, maybe it's:
- a proven linux platform ideal for the application
- well supported in the community (see Minepeon)
- well supported technically outside the community, with thousands of applications and many developers
- cheap

I don't know, maybe it's:
- a proven linux platform ideal for the application
..................  which requires re-flashing & programming a PI, and separate power & data connections.
- well supported in the community (see Minepeon)
.................. Exactly... The "Community" has been using it as a workaround to having an actual computer connected to the miners... "Macguyvered."
- well supported technically outside the community, with thousands of applications and many developers
.................. But not needed, and an extra device to deal with
- cheap
.................  Yet it is extra cost AND time to set up.

Okay, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt -  but it's now obvious that you really are clueless. I'm done with this "conversation"

[CMMPro]

My theory is this: They won't announce anything. They'll simply start providing tracking numbers to customers. Let the customers spread the word like fire to a pinetree farm. That'll be the best announcement which could ever be made.

Paul Revere's ride would hold nothing compared to KNC customers screaming they have tracking numbers.

You had me at hello....this would be an awesome way to let the news drop.

[Phoenix1969]

A better question might be "What could a PI do for a knc miner"?
What would be the reason?

A better question might be "What could a PI do for a knc miner"?
What would be the reason?

I don't know, maybe it's:
- a proven linux platform ideal for the application
- well supported in the community (see Minepeon)
- well supported technically outside the community, with thousands of applications and many developers
- cheap

I don't know, maybe it's:
- a proven linux platform ideal for the application
..................  which requires re-flashing & programming a PI, and separate power & data connections.
- well supported in the community (see Minepeon)
.................. Exactly... The "Community" has been using it as a workaround to having an actual computer connected to the miners... "Macguyvered."
- well supported technically outside the community, with thousands of applications and many developers
.................. But not needed, and an extra device to deal with
- cheap
.................  Yet it is extra cost AND time to set up.

Okay, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt -  but it's now obvious that you really are clueless. I'm done with this "conversation"

whatever....   again..  Forgive me, but using a Pi on a KNC seems a huge waste of time, resources, and equipment you already paid for, and for no advantage since the embedded so-dimm Linux module already has everything you need, and more. I don't mind at all u think I'm "Clueless"... I was thinking same of you. Fair enough...

[vulgartrendkill]

I think an embedded linux is a great way of getting round the problem of having an external controller. All in one boxes are all the rage don`t ya know.

[DimensionsOfHell]

Alright guys, some of you have a lot more knowledge then me in the PSU area, so if you could help me out here, I'd appreciate it.
I have a Saturn on order, which I plan to upgrade to Jupiter once they start offering the modules separately. The PSU that I have picked out seems like a perfect fit to me, and at a fairly good price. If you guys could look it over and let me know, that would be great. And if it is a good one, it could turn out to be a good deal for everyone.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011

[DPoS]

My theory is this: They won't announce anything. They'll simply start providing tracking numbers to customers. Let the customers spread the word like fire to a pinetree farm. That'll be the best announcement which could ever be made.

Paul Revere's ride would hold nothing compared to KNC customers screaming they have tracking numbers.

You had me at hello....this would be an awesome way to let the news drop.

did you guys forget to provide your mining pool info..  at the least, we will start to get some coins to let us know they are close to shipping

[chrono030]

Alright guys, some of you have a lot more knowledge then me in the PSU area, so if you could help me out here, I'd appreciate it.
I have a Saturn on order, which I plan to upgrade to Jupiter once they start offering the modules separately. The PSU that I have picked out seems like a perfect fit to me, and at a fairly good price. If you guys could look it over and let me know, that would be great. And if it is a good one, it could turn out to be a good deal for everyone.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011

Should be the minimum acceptable wattage for a power supply.  I'd recommend going with something around 1kw... They are much more efficient at 50 % load versus 80 - 90 % load.

[vesperwillow]

did you guys forget to provide your mining pool info..  at the least, we will start to get some coins to let us know they are close to shipping

I don't even have an order with them, but they do have my mining info. Hahaha

[Transam808]

I thought they planned on putting a usb port on this thing?  or am i just blind and not seeing it?

[gateway]

Anyone know what they are doing as far as working with cgminer or bfgminer.. it seems that they are writing some middle open source communication layer for cgminer.. but what if cgminer changes things, will KNC always have to update this open source miner or does it now become the job of cg and bfg to make changes .. also is this a good idea to do this? I mean they claim a 30% increase using their in-between layer but well..

anyone have any ideas or more incite.

[vesperwillow]

I thought they planned on putting a usb port on this thing?  or am i just blind and not seeing it?

It's stand alone. USB would be pointless. Provide power and an internet feed, that's all it needs.