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September 04, 2013, 09:25:31 PM
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We'll all be sending our miners to data centres in Russia at this rate - Russia 2.4 to 9.58 c/kw according to Wikipedia

I was able to find space mainland USA with 2c offpeak & 3.5 cent peak rates, which is where the miners are going...
Yes, it means I have to fly there initially.

Where were you able to find it so low? Please tell... Been looking myself and the lowest i've found is @ .08/kwh..
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Keep looking, you should be able to find it.
I thought I was smart finding it, only to find other miners already there. That's the best I can do for now under NDA.
damn you! now I have to search the internet for hours before pm'ing you with the question with whom you have the nda!
Its really not that hard.. I have .089-.041 around by me for all my miners Tongue
and where exactly are your miners? plugged in at a power plant near you?!?

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September 04, 2013, 09:41:28 PM
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as your heart also runs at about 60Hz.

You... might want to think about that for a couple seconds.

Or see a doctor.

Hummingbird with a meth problem?
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September 04, 2013, 09:54:46 PM
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as your heart also runs at about 60Hz.

You... might want to think about that for a couple seconds.

Or see a doctor.

Hummingbird with a meth problem?
ROTFL  Grin
Fun fact: Hummingbirds can have a heartrate of 21 Beats per second. And they can live longer than 10 years. Thats over 6622 million beats.  
If you had a heart rate of 80 beats you would need more than 150 years to get to that Tongue

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September 04, 2013, 10:06:50 PM
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We'll all be sending our miners to data centres in Russia at this rate - Russia 2.4 to 9.58 c/kw according to Wikipedia

I was able to find space mainland USA with 2c offpeak & 3.5 cent peak rates, which is where the miners are going...
Yes, it means I have to fly there initially.

Where were you able to find it so low? Please tell... Been looking myself and the lowest i've found is @ .08/kwh..
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Keep looking, you should be able to find it.
I thought I was smart finding it, only to find other miners already there. That's the best I can do for now under NDA.
damn you! now I have to search the internet for hours before pm'ing you with the question with whom you have the nda!
Its really not that hard.. I have .089-.041 around by me for all my miners Tongue
and where exactly are your miners? plugged in at a power plant near you?!?
No... my apartment/soon to be warehouse
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September 04, 2013, 10:16:20 PM
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September 04, 2013, 11:28:08 PM
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Hopefully OrSoC have all their DRAM in stock for their SO-DIMM embedded Linux systems:

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The Korean press reports that a huge explosion and fire in Hynix's fabrication plants 1 and 2 in China may put DRAM shipments on hold for the foreseeable future. Hynix is responsible for about 30% of the world's DRAM production.
More on: http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=1F7BAFAD-A8EA-72BF-E41ABEB0A9EB98B9

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Hynix has been repurposing the fabs for NAND production instead of DRAM, and reports say the explosion occurred when new equipment was being installed.
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September 04, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
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We'll all be sending our miners to data centres in Russia at this rate - Russia 2.4 to 9.58 c/kw according to Wikipedia

I was able to find space mainland USA with 2c offpeak & 3.5 cent peak rates, which is where the miners are going...
Yes, it means I have to fly there initially.

Where were you able to find it so low? Please tell... Been looking myself and the lowest i've found is @ .08/kwh..
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Keep looking, you should be able to find it.
I thought I was smart finding it, only to find other miners already there. That's the best I can do for now under NDA.
damn you! now I have to search the internet for hours before pm'ing you with the question with whom you have the nda!
Its really not that hard.. I have .089-.041 around by me for all my miners Tongue
and where exactly are your miners? plugged in at a power plant near you?!?
No... my apartment/soon to be warehouse





Dont take it it to personal if phoenix  wont give  100% of his info (though he has given 98% of it) .........he has some  business commitments he has to keep..................it took nearly 3 days of brainstorming ..........we started with a wood gacifier and found ourselves wandering around the good old USA .......remember every scenario has its for and against as well ......which normally costs extra monies , either rent , airfares and possible other costs ....

Just keep searching you will find the best scenario for you ............I think the key is working out the worst scenario ..............plus trying to predict when this  diff will settle down ..................I was keen on reinvesting ...........but I dont think it will happen for the next 3 to 6 months ..........this  diff is about to go mad .........and truthfully we are all guessing as in when and where this will slow down ........there going to be some big money earnt ........but also some big money lost

It all should settle down when most peoples expences are to high vrs their initial investment .............peoples expected returns are about to take a huge dip

I hope Im wrong ...............but
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September 05, 2013, 12:27:44 AM
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as your heart also runs at about 60Hz.

You... might want to think about that for a couple seconds.

Or see a doctor.

Hummingbird with a meth problem?

LOL!

So much for brevity. The human body "syncs" with a 60hz signal really easily, and at household voltage that can cause your heart to stop or to beat wrong. At 50 hz this effect is much less likely.

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September 05, 2013, 12:48:49 AM
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Quote from: Mota link=top
[quote author=noodle73 link=topic=170332.msg3081501#msg3081501 date=1378315306
We'll all be sending our miners to data centres in Russia at this rate - Russia 2.4 to 9.58 c/kw according to Wikipedia

I was able to find space mainland USA with 2c offpeak & 3.5 cent peak rates, which is where the miners are going...
and where exactly are your miners? plugged in at a power plant near you?!?
[/quote]
No... my apartment/soon to be warehouse
[/quote]

In the US don't forget there is a 'transmission charge' also.  Here in the wonderful state of NJ, it is $0.12 Kwh.  Now add the $0.067 transmission charge for a marvelous total of $0.187 Kwh. 

Most of the 'alternative' electric companies fail to mention that you are still going to get charged for transmission.  So the guys that are offering $0.10 Kwh, your final cost is $0.167. 

Lets see: 750 Watt 400Gh/s miner - from .187 to .167 yields a savings of $131 per year; and from .187 to .08 yields a savings of $600 per year, down to $579 per year. 

I did a search for Russian electric costs, found a .pdf at academia.edu... $.08 Kwh this year, $.10 Kwh next year and rising $.01-.02 cents each year until 2020.  This is because they are going the deregulation route.

Really, if you are going to use COMED RRTP program, watch that 4pm spike to $.078 Kwh.  Oh to be in Illinois again. 

 

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September 05, 2013, 01:02:13 AM
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as your heart also runs at about 60Hz.

You... might want to think about that for a couple seconds.

Or see a doctor.

Hummingbird with a meth problem?

LOL!

So much for brevity. The human body "syncs" with a 60hz signal really easily, and at household voltage that can cause your heart to stop or to beat wrong. At 50 hz this effect is much less likely.
You are half right.  The reality is both 50HZ and 60HZ are very hazardous to the human body.  The problem is that both are harmonics of the human heatbeat range (which is roughly 1-3Hz, not 60).  You'd need a much higher frequency to lessen the risk, ie: aircraft generators.  Most aircraft generators run at 400Hz which is too high a frequency to affect the heart.

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In the US don't forget there is a 'transmission charge' also.  Here in the wonderful state of NJ, it is $0.12 Kwh.  Now add the $0.067 transmission charge for a marvelous total of $0.187 Kwh.  

I was wondering this too..  final bill price can be much bloated

here in PA it is an honest .15kW/h total

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nice price!!

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September 05, 2013, 01:50:34 AM
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I'm in Chicago, about a mile west of Wrigley Field. I just checked my power bill.

For ENERGY CHARGE it says 1161 kWh x 0.05589 = $64.89

For DELIVERY AND TAXES they charge me             $60.21

For a grand total of...........                               $125.10



Also Chicago northsider *wave*

520 kWh X 0.05650  = $29.38
delivery/taxes/other = $32.26
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Total: $61.64


Would love to know why taxes cost more than the service, ever.

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the .089 is after all fees/transmition etc. Nice and cheap cooling during the summer.
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In the US don't forget there is a 'transmission charge' also.  Here in the wonderful state of NJ, it is $0.12 Kwh.  Now add the $0.067 transmission charge for a marvelous total of $0.187 Kwh.  

I was wondering this too..  final bill price can be much bloated

here in PA it is an honest .15kW/h total
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0.11  per kWh after taxes here in N.Va  Tongue

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Quote from: Mota link=top
[quote author=noodle73 link=topic=170332.msg3081501#msg3081501 date=1378315306
We'll all be sending our miners to data centres in Russia at this rate - Russia 2.4 to 9.58 c/kw according to Wikipedia

I was able to find space mainland USA with 2c offpeak & 3.5 cent peak rates, which is where the miners are going...
and where exactly are your miners? plugged in at a power plant near you?!?
No... my apartment/soon to be warehouse
[/quote]

In the US don't forget there is a 'transmission charge' also.  Here in the wonderful state of NJ, it is $0.12 Kwh.  Now add the $0.067 transmission charge for a marvelous total of $0.187 Kwh. 

Most of the 'alternative' electric companies fail to mention that you are still going to get charged for transmission.  So the guys that are offering $0.10 Kwh, your final cost is $0.167. 

Lets see: 750 Watt 400Gh/s miner - from .187 to .167 yields a savings of $131 per year; and from .187 to .08 yields a savings of $600 per year, down to $579 per year. 

I did a search for Russian electric costs, found a .pdf at academia.edu... $.08 Kwh this year, $.10 Kwh next year and rising $.01-.02 cents each year until 2020.  This is because they are going the deregulation route.

Really, if you are going to use COMED RRTP program, watch that 4pm spike to $.078 Kwh.  Oh to be in Illinois again. 

 
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The rates everywhere are high, going to impact ROI in the long term.  In MA i'm paying .14 through a local muncipality, nearby towns are paying .17-.18.

My partner and I found a site where we can get .04 at commercial rates. He's a network specialist so we're working on leasing the space and setting up hosting with it's own pool.  Costs should be significantly less this way.

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September 05, 2013, 02:34:46 AM
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wel its $0.08 for me..  Grin

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as your heart also runs at about 60Hz.

You... might want to think about that for a couple seconds.

Or see a doctor.

Hummingbird with a meth problem?

LOL!

So much for brevity. The human body "syncs" with a 60hz signal really easily, and at household voltage that can cause your heart to stop or to beat wrong. At 50 hz this effect is much less likely.
You are half right.  The reality is both 50HZ and 60HZ are very hazardous to the human body.  The problem is that both are harmonics of the human heatbeat range (which is roughly 1-3Hz, not 60).  You'd need a much higher frequency to lessen the risk, ie: aircraft generators.  Most aircraft generators run at 400Hz which is too high a frequency to affect the heart.


Thanks for the correction. It's been a lot of years. I had thought, though, that the 50Hz was supposed to be significantly less dangerous than 60Hz. Could be wrong.

The main lesson I took from Dear ol' Dad was to avoid becoming part of the circuit, regardless of frequency Tongue

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