Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[matthewh3]

I wonder if my calculations are off.  I seem to see that if the rate of hashrate increase on the net remains the same I can probably make a little money with my expensive Neptune in a 3 month period if a btc is $853.  But if the rate of change increases much it will drop to less than paid for and making little after the 3 months.  I used an average of a week a month ago and this last week, btc mined with 300GHs.

Current thirty day average difficulty growth is 56% according to TGB.  Which'll soon rise for about a week before going back down again due to the next difficulty retarget coming up.  As I've already stated at this rate the batch one $10K Neptunes are good to be delivered up until May and still make their ROI.  The last sixty days average growth was 178% according to TGB.  I don't see this rate increasing much and may actually continue to ease off over the next few months.  Unless there's some more dramatic bitcoin price rises IMHO.  Although CT are due to start shipping soon and maybe HF will start shipping en masse eventually.

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[faetos]

Orama, will knc allow us to use neptune order money to order jupiters?

edit: realized adding more jupiters isn't really going to put a dent in the 17 PH out there now.

[RickJamesBTC]

Orama, will knc allow us to use neptune order money to order jupiters? Since the network will get blown out again my neptune orders are going to be worthless.

You should just get a refund and stop worrying about it.

[AFox]

How long does the support take to answer at the moment ?

I know I could find the answer to the following questions by going "a few" pages back but could someone be kind enough to reply :
How many Neptune's where sold on the First Batch "Closed-Sale" and on the First Batch "Everybody Sale" ?
How many Neptune Second Batch are left ?

[Easy2Mine]

Each batch is limited at 1200 Neptunes.
So there will be a total of 3600 Neptunes.

It looks like Bitfury is building mega mines at the moment

[ImI]

It looks like Bitfury is building mega mines at the moment

source?

[RoadStress]

It looks like Bitfury is building mega mines at the moment

source?

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-09/bitcoin-mining-chips-gear-computing-groups-competition-heats-up#p3

This is grats to all the people who are willing to pay for overpriced miners.

[r1senfa17h]

Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

[merv77]

Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

[Easy2Mine]

From their own press release

The hashing power of GHash.IO consists of:
• ~45% BitFury ASIC based miners
• ~55% independent miners

Their hashrate at the moment is 4.8-4.9
In this calculation I am using 4.8 PH
45% of 4.8=2.16 PH controlled by CEX alone.
When they started their mine was not that big.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-01-09/bitcoin-mining-chips-gear-computing-groups-competition-heats-up#p3
Originally this was planned to be a 100 TH mine, it turns out to be a 500 TH mine with only Bitfury gear.

from the 55% independent miners at CEX there must be also a large numbers of Bitfury gear sold by Megabigpower and Bitfurystrikesback.

I guessing most of the hashrate add to the network lately is Bitfury gear.
Megabigpower doesn't have items in stock untill a few days ago and from that time the hashrate explode.
I think Bitfury has a succesfull new batch at this moment.

Bitmain come into play.
BTmine come into play
If you trace their BTC address, you see they sell a lot, but not enough to be responsible for that much of hashrate. (Don't know how many wire transfers)
I speculate that it is Bitfury that add the most hashrate to the network lately.
I still have to check BTCGarden and Asicminer.
BFL is out of question.

[Easy2Mine]

You notice the marketbot at CEX pumping up the prize and forcing people new to BTC buy high and sell low?
Their business plan is perfect.

[r1senfa17h]

Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm running 6 modules overclocked at 1TH/s. I found the same 1.15 power multiplier was necessary when running 4 modules at stock speed though.

[Bitcoinorama]

Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

I just took a 1000w evga (1000 G2) to the CES with me based in Cyper's recommendations for the brand. I couldn't source the 1300W one in time as Cyper has probably bought the entire UK's supply of them before Christmas.

The lads gave me 2xV850s to use, but I got totally fed up with dealing with unpacking 2 power supplies and anything that takes me near the baggage limit. I realise not a concern for you, buuuut each v850 is over a kilo, and the leads aren't light either.

Plus the red EVGA leads which you have 6x 6+2, with 6 separate 8 pin ports on the PSU (4x a single Pcie and I think two were doubles) look neater and sexier than the mess of leads the coolermaster has when on camera. On top of which and this is a biggy, they are longer and better shielded. That said the Molex which is much longer than the coolermaster offering which further bunches up the pcie leads is still shorter than the pcie leads and that is then the determining factor in the distance in separation if the device and the PSU.

In any case they are very reasonably priced 80 plus gold rated and carrying one PSU over two is muuuch more fun. I'm still getting forearms like Popeye lugging Jupiter around, however the final bonus is the set up and clear up time is so much quicker.

Most of the above probably doesn't concern most of you, just thanking Cyper for the recommendation and can confirm I really like the PSU. I can imagine the 1300w would be ideal for any 6 board Nov Jup mods (that are totally unofficial, right? ). Really impressed with the EVGA brand for such a compact high rated unit that is pretty much half the price of the next worthwhile offering, and has 6x in dependant pci-es, but it does look like the 1300w version is sold out everywhere for the foreseeable future (in the UK at least). The 1000w one I have was like only £20 less, but I had to order and have delivered quick this side of Christmas.

I did see a 1600w PSU which I believe took 10 PCI-Es and was only £200 somewhere. No idea but prob should look into that as it would be ideal for a GPU farm...

[Bitcoinorama]

Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm running 6 modules overclocked at 1TH/s. I found the same 1.15 power multiplier was necessary when running 4 modules at stock speed though.

I wonder how much recent overclocking, as above has effected the hashrate as well? I mean if enough are savvy enough to push out another 10-15% it has to make some kind of dent...

[r1senfa17h]

Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm running 6 modules overclocked at 1TH/s. I found the same 1.15 power multiplier was necessary when running 4 modules at stock speed though.

I wonder how much recent overclocking, as above has effected the hashrate as well? I mean if enough are savvy enough to push out another 10-15% it has to make some kind of dent...

Absolutely! I've wondered this myself since most of the hashing power out there is KnC hardware.

On another note, it seems like those 2nd gen Avalon clones are sprouting up like wildfire! I've got 13 of 'em arriving sometime between 1/20 and 1/22. I think that KnC's competition doesn't look the way they expected (HashFast & Cointerra), but rather dozens of Chinese 'shops' cranking these things out like mad. Hurry up and ship more Jupiters please!

[Easy2Mine]

@Bitcoinorama

You need EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1300?
http://www.alternate.nl/EVGA/SuperNOVA_1300_G2,_1300_Watt_voeding/html/product/1094638/?tk=7&lk=9531

[Bitcoinorama]

Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm running 6 modules overclocked at 1TH/s. I found the same 1.15 power multiplier was necessary when running 4 modules at stock speed though.

I wonder how much recent overclocking, as above has effected the hashrate as well? I mean if enough are savvy enough to push out another 10-15% it has to make some kind of dent...

Absolutely! I've wondered this myself since most of the hashing power out there is KnC hardware.

On another note, it seems like those 2nd gen Avalon clones are sprouting up like wildfire! I've got 13 of 'em arriving sometime between 1/20 and 1/22. I think that KnC's competition doesn't look the way they expected (HashFast & Cointerra), but rather dozens of Chinese 'shops' cranking these things out like mad.

I was going to mention Avalon, a little birdy brought this to my attention to day. They have a load of 200gh/s 55nm hitting the market right now, but that cannot be solely responsible. Also does that mean the hardware is all being pre-mined (again), or delivered?

[Bitcoinorama]

@Bitcoinorama

You need EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1300?
http://www.alternate.nl/EVGA/SuperNOVA_1300_G2,_1300_Watt_voeding/html/product/1094638/?tk=7&lk=9531

Yes that was the one I was going to try and get as the extra 300w for £10-20 made since, but the lack of availability didn't. I needed the space in my suitcase more than the wait for stock. That is indeed the PSU Cyper has raved on about and the the Nov box seems super happy with it, plus again makes for a sexier photo than a mass of black wiring. I like.

Seen it a lot cheaper though. Out of stock but somewhere I swear I saw it for around £150?

[r1senfa17h]

Just in case anyone is interested in calculating their actual power consumption, you should know that the amount listed by bertmod or the new 0.99.2 firmware does not include all factors like fans or PSU inefficiencies. As you can see, my Jupiter shows 1140w on the Advanced page, but my kill-a-watt meter shows 1300w at the wall. I would recommend multiplying the amount you see on the Advanced tab or from bertmod by 1.15 for a realistic estimate.

what kind of Jupiter are you running?

my Jupiters are drawing from 570W to 590W at the wall all with 0.95 firmware.
BTW. 240v power supplies V1000 cooler Master gold

Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm running 6 modules overclocked at 1TH/s. I found the same 1.15 power multiplier was necessary when running 4 modules at stock speed though.

I wonder how much recent overclocking, as above has effected the hashrate as well? I mean if enough are savvy enough to push out another 10-15% it has to make some kind of dent...

Absolutely! I've wondered this myself since most of the hashing power out there is KnC hardware.

On another note, it seems like those 2nd gen Avalon clones are sprouting up like wildfire! I've got 13 of 'em arriving sometime between 1/20 and 1/22. I think that KnC's competition doesn't look the way they expected (HashFast & Cointerra), but rather dozens of Chinese 'shops' cranking these things out like mad.

I was going to mention Avalon, a little birdy brought this to my attention to day. They have a load of 200gh/s 55nm hitting the market right now, but that cannot be solely responsible. Also does that mean the hardware is all being pre-mined (again), or delivered?

Haha, yeah - I'll let you know how much dust is in my units when (if) I receive them. I think everyone's too eager to point at one specific cause for the current increase, but I think it's a combination of Avalon clones, KnC overclocking, and a dark horse or two.

[Phoenix1969]

I'll glean something more definitive once I'm back in Stockholm next week.