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March 31, 2014, 04:55:40 PM
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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided
guess CT's dreams of 14nm FinFen being next are gone....
Considering CT's performance on 28nm, I wouldn't bank on anything  special there.
If there's any truth to the document, we will see Plan "B" soon

14nm are too old! Smiley

10nm should be next...

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1264668


according to your link....2015 on 10nm...


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March 31, 2014, 05:04:09 PM
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They offered two options, to keep your hardware order and be compensated for their lateness with cloud hashing "while you wait" so to speak.
Or swap your hardware order for a cloud hashing order completely.

Hi Biffa,

do you have a link for the offer?

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In the addition to this commitment, as part of Plan B, for all Neptune customers, we will be offering a free conversion to a hosted hashing package

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March 31, 2014, 05:06:52 PM
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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.

Are those times for RISC or CISC products?

An sha256 ASIC is a SINGLE INSTRUCTION part.
Way less complicated by comparison.

Me thinks you mix apples and oranges.

YMMV
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March 31, 2014, 05:12:44 PM
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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.

Are those times for RISC or CISC products?

An sha256 ASIC is a SINGLE INSTRUCTION part.
Way less complicated by comparison.

Me thinks you mix apples and oranges.

YMMV
Smiley

I have cointerra's statistical data on the same document.

yes KnC = apples and CT = oranges.

best wishes.

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March 31, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided
guess CT's dreams of 14nm FinFen being next are gone....
Considering CT's performance on 28nm, I wouldn't bank on anything  special there.
If there's any truth to the document, we will see Plan "B" soon

14nm are too old! Smiley

10nm should be next...

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1264668


according to your link....2015 on 10nm...

By the time any ASIC mining rig gets their 14nm rig out the door 10nm chips will be available. Smiley
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March 31, 2014, 05:21:38 PM
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Cointerra kept their 20nm very quiet, or did I miss that??  Undecided
guess CT's dreams of 14nm FinFen being next are gone....
Considering CT's performance on 28nm, I wouldn't bank on anything  special there.
If there's any truth to the document, we will see Plan "B" soon

14nm are too old! Smiley

10nm should be next...

http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1264668


according to your link....2015 on 10nm...

By the time any ASIC mining rig gets their 14nm rig out the door 10nm chips will be available. Smiley

don't consider 14nm. next step is 16nm.

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March 31, 2014, 05:27:16 PM
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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.

Are those times for RISC or CISC products?

An sha256 ASIC is a SINGLE INSTRUCTION part.
Way less complicated by comparison.

Me thinks you mix apples and oranges.

YMMV
Smiley

I have cointerra's statistical data on the same document.

yes KnC = apples and CT = oranges.

best wishes.

And 'actual shuttle times' for 28nm are 3-4 months.
KnC delivered in 8 weeks.

This was already discussed.

YMMV
Smiley

P.S. I'm not claiming KnC has another rabbit in the hat, but They DID have one in there as they said they did, previously.

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March 31, 2014, 05:28:41 PM
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Okay, well they began 20nm prior to November 5th....
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63
"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip, "

...  and then completed "Tape Out" mid February....
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-78
This important milestone was achieved only 3 months after starting the project, during February 2014.

So the issue in the post then is "Cybershuttle", which  refers to tape-out at TSMC, and was already completed mid Feb.
Cybershuttle is nothing more than a pre-production tapeout service made for speed, and once the "Tapeout" is complete, so is "Cybershuttle"
http://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/services/cyberShuttle.htm
In conclusion, "Cybershuttle" phase, was from November, to February for KNC... which is most likely where the estimate comes from.
and KNC has already told us they are in the "Foundry" stage.

So....   I see no delay here.


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March 31, 2014, 05:28:54 PM
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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.

Are those times for RISC or CISC products?

An sha256 ASIC is a SINGLE INSTRUCTION part.
Way less complicated by comparison.

Me thinks you mix apples and oranges.

YMMV
Smiley

I have cointerra's statistical data on the same document.

yes KnC = apples and CT = oranges.

best wishes.

And 'actual shuttle times' for 28nm are 3-4 months.
KnC delivered in 8 weeks.

This was already discussed.

YMMV
Smiley

P.S. I'm not claiming KnC has another rabbit in the hat, but They DID have one in there as they said they did, previously.

shuttle times for 28nm were ~80 days, 8 weeks was I agree, very well done on their part.

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March 31, 2014, 05:37:49 PM
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Quoted from the 20nm post...  "actual cybershuttle cycle time figures on the 20nm technology, which will be included in the Swedish mining manufacturer KnC and the US Cointerra, shows shuttle times of around 130days, with 16nm at 171 days."

Since KNC's 20nm is an industry 1st for AlChip and AST; where do the numbers come from?

a confidential document. you may now either choose to believe, or disbelieve. either way - keep your tinfoil hat on.

Are those times for RISC or CISC products?

An sha256 ASIC is a SINGLE INSTRUCTION part.
Way less complicated by comparison.

Me thinks you mix apples and oranges.

YMMV
Smiley

I have cointerra's statistical data on the same document.

yes KnC = apples and CT = oranges.

best wishes.

And 'actual shuttle times' for 28nm are 3-4 months.
KnC delivered in 8 weeks.

This was already discussed.

YMMV
Smiley

P.S. I'm not claiming KnC has another rabbit in the hat, but They DID have one in there as they said they did, previously.

shuttle times for 28nm were ~80 days, 8 weeks was I agree, very well done on their part.

Are KNC and Cointerra specifically referenced in this document??

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If the document is 100% true or not true at all is no matter, because Cybershuttle was done in mid February.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg6004642#msg6004642


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March 31, 2014, 05:55:46 PM
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If the document is 100% true or not true at all is no matter, because Cybershuttle was done in mid February.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg6004642#msg6004642

you are a giggle of a shill.
so mr, explain to us the difference between tape-out, and full mask?

you are telling us they are the same thing?

EDIT:
go back to selling snake oil. you know FUCK ALL.

apologies for my tone, this was out of order. R.

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Last edit: March 31, 2014, 06:19:07 PM by Phoenix1969
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If the document is 100% true or not true at all is no matter, because Cybershuttle was done in mid February.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg6004642#msg6004642

you are a giggle of a shill.
so mr, explain to us the difference between tape-out, and full mask?

you are telling us they are the same thing?
go back to selling snake oil. you know FUCK ALL.
well, Mr Bad News; Cybershuttle has nothing to do with full mask, it's the step prior to that. ..and the post confuses pre-tape-out with post tapeout.
Cybershuttle is part of the tapeout process node offered by TSMC. The poster of that thread thinks cybershuttle is post tapeout, which is incorrect.
"snake oil", ROFL. Pot calling Kettle black here imho

He cites cybershuttle as being the reason KNC will be late....   when its been done since mid Feb.
That was part of the code re-submission in December.


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If the document is 100% true or not true at all is no matter, because Cybershuttle was done in mid February.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg6004642#msg6004642

you are a giggle of a shill.
so mr, explain to us the difference between tape-out, and full mask?

you are telling us they are the same thing?
go back to selling snake oil. you know FUCK ALL.
well, Mr Bad News; Cybershuttle has nothing to do with full mask, it's the step prior to that. ..and the post confuses pre-tape-out with post tapeout.
Cybershuttle is part of the tapeout process node offered by TSMC. The poster of that thread thinks cybershuttle is post tapeout, which is incorrect.

tape out is just that - tape out. you are at least correct that cybershuttle has nothing to do with full mask, and as I pointed out in my blog - the time-frames, from tape-out are similar (cybershuttle / full-mask). Full mask happens post tape-out. you know FUCK ALL - go back to selling snake oil.

again, I will reiterate, my blog post was not directed at any one manufacturer. But I do understand your frustration, as the news just means it will be longer til you can get your photo taken with your #1 neptune (which will not have decent burn in and will likely set your house on fire).
okay, so knowing cybershuttle tapeout process is done 6 weeks ago, where do the "Full mask" delay estimates come from then? There is nothing cited to back up that claim.
BTW...  this "Fuck all" stuff really isn't necessary, is it?


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March 31, 2014, 06:26:38 PM
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If the document is 100% true or not true at all is no matter, because Cybershuttle was done in mid February.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg6004642#msg6004642

you are a giggle of a shill.
so mr, explain to us the difference between tape-out, and full mask?

you are telling us they are the same thing?
go back to selling snake oil. you know FUCK ALL.
well, Mr Bad News; Cybershuttle has nothing to do with full mask, it's the step prior to that. ..and the post confuses pre-tape-out with post tapeout.
Cybershuttle is part of the tapeout process node offered by TSMC. The poster of that thread thinks cybershuttle is post tapeout, which is incorrect.

tape out is just that - tape out. you are at least correct that cybershuttle has nothing to do with full mask, and as I pointed out in my blog - the time-frames, from tape-out are similar (cybershuttle / full-mask). Full mask happens post tape-out. you know FUCK ALL - go back to selling snake oil.

again, I will reiterate, my blog post was not directed at any one manufacturer. But I do understand your frustration, as the news just means it will be longer til you can get your photo taken with your #1 neptune (which will not have decent burn in and will likely set your house on fire).
okay, so knowing cybershuttle tapeout process is done 6 weeks ago, where do the "Full mask" delay estimates come from then? There is nothing cited to back up that claim.
BTW...  this "Fuck all" stuff really isn't necessary, is it?

tapeout has been done. cyberhshuttle has not. your manufacturer is compiling full mask.

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March 31, 2014, 06:28:21 PM
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If the document is 100% true or not true at all is no matter, because Cybershuttle was done in mid February.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg6004642#msg6004642

you are a giggle of a shill.
so mr, explain to us the difference between tape-out, and full mask?

you are telling us they are the same thing?
go back to selling snake oil. you know FUCK ALL.
well, Mr Bad News; Cybershuttle has nothing to do with full mask, it's the step prior to that. ..and the post confuses pre-tape-out with post tapeout.
Cybershuttle is part of the tapeout process node offered by TSMC. The poster of that thread thinks cybershuttle is post tapeout, which is incorrect.

tape out is just that - tape out. you are at least correct that cybershuttle has nothing to do with full mask, and as I pointed out in my blog - the time-frames, from tape-out are similar (cybershuttle / full-mask). Full mask happens post tape-out. you know FUCK ALL - go back to selling snake oil.

again, I will reiterate, my blog post was not directed at any one manufacturer. But I do understand your frustration, as the news just means it will be longer til you can get your photo taken with your #1 neptune (which will not have decent burn in and will likely set your house on fire).
okay, so knowing cybershuttle tapeout process is done 6 weeks ago, where do the "Full mask" delay estimates come from then? There is nothing cited to back up that claim.
BTW...  this "Fuck all" stuff really isn't necessary, is it?

tapeout has been done. cyberhshuttle has not. your manufacturer is compiling full mask.
Before you go any further, educate yourself on cybershuttle:
http://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/services/cyberShuttle.htm

as you can see, "Cybershuttle" is indeed a coined term for TSMC's speedy tape-out development process.


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http://www.coindesk.com/mining-hardware-companies-miners-roundup/

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They offered two options, to keep your hardware order and be compensated for their lateness with cloud hashing "while you wait" so to speak.
Or swap your hardware order for a cloud hashing order completely.

Hi Biffa,

do you have a link for the offer?

Thanks

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From the "Plan B" announcement: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-75

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Over the next few months we are bringing online enough hashing power to make sure that any delay in the Neptune timeline will be compensated with a completely free hosted hashing packages to all fully paid customers.
 
In the addition to this commitment, as part of Plan B, for all Neptune customers, we will be offering a free conversion to a hosted hashing package

Thanks,

I did miss it...

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March 31, 2014, 06:36:09 PM
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If the document is 100% true or not true at all is no matter, because Cybershuttle was done in mid February.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.msg6004642#msg6004642

you are a giggle of a shill.
so mr, explain to us the difference between tape-out, and full mask?

you are telling us they are the same thing?
go back to selling snake oil. you know FUCK ALL.
well, Mr Bad News; Cybershuttle has nothing to do with full mask, it's the step prior to that. ..and the post confuses pre-tape-out with post tapeout.
Cybershuttle is part of the tapeout process node offered by TSMC. The poster of that thread thinks cybershuttle is post tapeout, which is incorrect.

tape out is just that - tape out. you are at least correct that cybershuttle has nothing to do with full mask, and as I pointed out in my blog - the time-frames, from tape-out are similar (cybershuttle / full-mask). Full mask happens post tape-out. you know FUCK ALL - go back to selling snake oil.

again, I will reiterate, my blog post was not directed at any one manufacturer. But I do understand your frustration, as the news just means it will be longer til you can get your photo taken with your #1 neptune (which will not have decent burn in and will likely set your house on fire).
okay, so knowing cybershuttle tapeout process is done 6 weeks ago, where do the "Full mask" delay estimates come from then? There is nothing cited to back up that claim.
BTW...  this "Fuck all" stuff really isn't necessary, is it?

tapeout has been done. cyberhshuttle has not. your manufacturer is compiling full mask.
Before you go any further, educate yourself on cybershuttle:
http://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/services/cyberShuttle.htm

as you can see, "Cybershuttle" is indeed a coined term for TSMC's speedy tape-out development process.


sorry, no, it's most definitely, the step after t/o...

"CyberShuttle® services break the barrier by letting multiple designs share tooling costs through a multi-project mask set. "
and
"CyberShuttle® services also validate the sub-circuit functionality and process compatibility of IP, standard cell libraries and I/Os."

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odd that they didn't have the hardware that you can purchase now and have in your hands in 4 days. kfc surely can't do that unless it is for themselves. coindesk really is turning into some waste of internet space.

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