Gazza1
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April 16, 2014, 03:03:02 AM |
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what is the eta for Titan?
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Impossible is a word found only in the dictionary of fools.
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joeventura
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April 16, 2014, 04:03:38 AM |
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Like lambs to the slaughter....
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1l1l11ll1l
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April 16, 2014, 04:04:48 AM |
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what is the eta for Titan?
Depends on how long litecoin mining is profitable. Once it's not, they'll ship from stock as they pull them off their 10MW datacenter floor. Just like the Jupiter cards and the 400 Fraken Jupiters.
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sbfree
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April 16, 2014, 04:06:02 AM |
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Just checked the board sale and the max order went from 3 to 500 but only 362 available ....
So as HardwareReviewer asked - did kfc get back to people about the Frankenjup? sbfree? xstr8guy? Or was their no interest and they are now selling off those grade 2 faulty brand new and definitely working Jupiter boards individually? nothing yet, i guess it will be refund time if this takes any longer. I am going to have to call and see what gives, this is getting super silly.
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sbfree
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April 16, 2014, 04:09:52 AM |
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Well that would be nice but I would be very surprised if they actually did. And I can't emphasize the "very" enough! Then I will have doubled my hash from 4THs to 8THs in one week (just got S2 today).
Nice! Good to hear bitmain are shipping on time. Knc could learn a thing or two from them I think its more tricky wording from them.
Customers will be contacted after 7 days, not that the shipping will start.
They say that "After 7 days from today the exchange will be frozen" and "The products will then be shipped from stock as soon as possible" So the only question - how long is "as soon as possible"? If they have these in stock, as they claim, then "as soon as possible" should mean straight away, right? If it's in stock, then all they need is a UPS label. I think we'll find out if knc truly had 400 "in stock" if they ship before the end of this week. Or whether they were misleading customers - again - with phoney delivery dates. Its another dragged out delay tactic, all well planned.
Shipments could be April, May, June.
In the end I think they are grateful that they have somewhere to unload the older equipment, as they upgrade the datacenters to the Neptunes.
That would be pure evil if they did that! SHIPPING OF THE FRANKENJUP AKA 3TH JUPITER WILL BE AFTER APRIL 20, per kurt from KNC on the knc forum
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Gazza1
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April 16, 2014, 04:12:11 AM |
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what is the eta for Titan?
Depends on how long litecoin mining is profitable. Once it's not, they'll ship from stock as they pull them off their 10MW datacenter floor. Just like the Jupiter cards and the 400 Fraken Jupiters. I knew these assclowns were mining with them. Then sell them to us when they are useless. At least offer a better price so we can at least double our investment. Fuckers
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xstr8guy
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April 16, 2014, 04:26:03 AM Last edit: April 16, 2014, 05:48:22 AM by xstr8guy |
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Well that would be nice but I would be very surprised if they actually did. And I can't emphasize the "very" enough! Then I will have doubled my hash from 4THs to 8THs in one week (just got S2 today).
Nice! Good to hear bitmain are shipping on time. Knc could learn a thing or two from them I think its more tricky wording from them.
Customers will be contacted after 7 days, not that the shipping will start.
They say that "After 7 days from today the exchange will be frozen" and "The products will then be shipped from stock as soon as possible" So the only question - how long is "as soon as possible"? If they have these in stock, as they claim, then "as soon as possible" should mean straight away, right? If it's in stock, then all they need is a UPS label. I think we'll find out if knc truly had 400 "in stock" if they ship before the end of this week. Or whether they were misleading customers - again - with phoney delivery dates. Its another dragged out delay tactic, all well planned.
Shipments could be April, May, June.
In the end I think they are grateful that they have somewhere to unload the older equipment, as they upgrade the datacenters to the Neptunes.
That would be pure evil if they did that! SHIPPING OF THE FRANKENJUP AKA 3TH JUPITER WILL BE AFTER APRIL 20, per kurt from KNC on the knc forum Thanks for the update! Frankly, I get a bit nauseous visiting the KNC forum so thanks for doing the dirty work. I'll be sure to pick up a couple cases of computer duster in anticipation of my FrankenJup's arrival.
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HardwareReviewer
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April 16, 2014, 08:25:14 AM |
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Well that would be nice but I would be very surprised if they actually did. And I can't emphasize the "very" enough! Then I will have doubled my hash from 4THs to 8THs in one week (just got S2 today).
Nice! Good to hear bitmain are shipping on time. Knc could learn a thing or two from them I think its more tricky wording from them.
Customers will be contacted after 7 days, not that the shipping will start.
They say that "After 7 days from today the exchange will be frozen" and "The products will then be shipped from stock as soon as possible" So the only question - how long is "as soon as possible"? If they have these in stock, as they claim, then "as soon as possible" should mean straight away, right? If it's in stock, then all they need is a UPS label. I think we'll find out if knc truly had 400 "in stock" if they ship before the end of this week. Or whether they were misleading customers - again - with phoney delivery dates. Its another dragged out delay tactic, all well planned.
Shipments could be April, May, June.
In the end I think they are grateful that they have somewhere to unload the older equipment, as they upgrade the datacenters to the Neptunes.
That would be pure evil if they did that! SHIPPING OF THE FRANKENJUP AKA 3TH JUPITER WILL BE AFTER APRIL 20, per kurt from KNC on the knc forum Thanks for the update! Frankly, I get a bit nauseous visiting the KNC forum so thanks for doing the dirty work. I'll be sure to pick up a couple cases of computer duster in anticipation of my FrankenJup's arrival. Thanks. Very curious when they will actually start shipping these...
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The Avenger
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April 16, 2014, 09:43:19 AM Last edit: April 16, 2014, 09:59:59 AM by The Avenger |
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Don't buy anything ever again, don't buy a car, your clothes, or your cell phone because those too cost a lot less than you think to manufacture yet people are making a killing on selling them to you!
Gosh really, before you start bitching at KNC for making a living at selling their mining gear you should really take a good look around you at the things you buy.
Try reading my post first, I'm talking about faulty goods. Now that we are beginning to see the actual cost of a board - about $200, maybe even less - there is no reason why knc couldn't have replaced EVERY die0 board straight away. We paid $7k+ for an October Jupiter, so it would NOT have destroyed their bottom line to send out one or two or three or four replacement boards to everyone for their faulty die0 boards. At the very worst, it would have cost them $800 out of the very handsome $7000 we paid to entirely fix the shitty equipment they shipped, which would not have done them any real financial damage. It would be the price they pay for skipping burn-in and shipping poor quality, untested products sold at a premium price. If I bought a cell phone that did not work, I would get a replacement sent out for free by express courier, because some companies are not miserly scumbags fucks who think they can ship faulty goods and have no responsibility. I think if you don't have any equipment ordered from them right now that you need to say out this thread for good!
Make me? I'm down about 50BTC on my purchase from KNC, because they shipped me a piece of faulty garbage late. If they are not going to refund that to make it right - which I know they aren't - I'm going to get 50BTC worth of entertainment reminding everyone what a cowardly, pathetic, unscrupulous, customer hating, vile, lying, fraudulent, 100% deadline missing, backstabbing, unethical bunch of faulty hardware shipping crooks KNC are. Enjoy.
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ElGabo
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April 16, 2014, 10:16:54 AM |
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Don't buy anything ever again, don't buy a car, your clothes, or your cell phone because those too cost a lot less than you think to manufacture yet people are making a killing on selling them to you!
Gosh really, before you start bitching at KNC for making a living at selling their mining gear you should really take a good look around you at the things you buy.
Try reading my post first, I'm talking about faulty goods. Now that we are beginning to see the actual cost of a board - about $200, maybe even less - there is no reason why knc couldn't have replaced EVERY die0 board straight away. We paid $7k+ for an October Jupiter, so it would NOT have destroyed their bottom line to send out one or two or three or four replacement boards to everyone for their faulty die0 boards. At the very worst, it would have cost them $800 out of the very handsome $7000 we paid to entirely fix the shitty equipment they shipped, which would not have done them any real financial damage. It would be the price they pay for skipping burn-in and shipping poor quality, untested products sold at a premium price. If I bought a cell phone that did not work, I would get a replacement sent out for free by express courier, because some companies are not miserly scumbags fucks who think they can ship faulty goods and have no responsibility. I think if you don't have any equipment ordered from them right now that you need to say out this thread for good!
Make me? I'm down about 50BTC on my purchase from KNC, because they shipped me a piece of faulty garbage late. If they are not going to refund that to make it right - which I know they aren't - I'm going to get 50BTC worth of entertainment reminding everyone what a cowardly, pathetic, unscrupulous, customer hating, vile, lying, fraudulent, 100% deadline missing, backstabbing, unethical bunch of faulty hardware shipping crooks KNC are.Enjoy. My first 2 replies was censored so just:
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" I'm waiting for my punishment, I know it's on my way So cut, cut, cut me up and fuck, fuck, fuck me up"
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raskul
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April 16, 2014, 10:24:11 AM |
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reminding everyone what a cowardly, pathetic, unscrupulous, customer hating, vile, lying, fraudulent, 100% deadline missing, backstabbing, unethical bunch of faulty hardware shipping crooks KNC are.
a truer paragraph; I have seldom read.
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gentacomp
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April 16, 2014, 11:37:25 AM |
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Sorry for the stupid question, but what do you guys think I should charge for my October Jupiters that are being sent back to me?
I'm not really interested in setting them up to mine at my house as I have high electricity costs. Would rather just sell them while they might still be worth something.
When compared to S1 speed it would be about 1500 usd. But compared to dragon and yours is second, I guess 1000 usd maybe...
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whonesta
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April 16, 2014, 12:15:20 PM |
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reminding everyone what a cowardly, pathetic, unscrupulous, customer hating, vile, lying, fraudulent, 100% deadline missing, backstabbing, unethical bunch of faulty hardware shipping crooks KNC are.
a truer paragraph; I have seldom read. ++1
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April 16, 2014, 01:31:05 PM Last edit: April 16, 2014, 02:05:36 PM by merv77 |
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news update http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=6d9133088733c220dff716f59&id=359ac512e4Hi All So we have a few updates that we would like to share, some of you may already have seen the updates in our shop so you will have to excuse us if it’s old news. The newsletter contains updates on the following products: - Titan performance increase - Mini Titan & Neptune Launch - Neptune Third Batch - Upgrade cards - Jupiter 3TH update - Neptune power requirements Titan Performance increase As we get closer to tape out we are able to provide more of an update, and due to the demand of our product. We are now able to confirm it will indeed be a 28nm process we will be using. This means we are able to confirm that the minimum performance will be 300MH/s for around 800watts of power. This upgrade in performance will of course be given free to all customers. For more details click here Mini Titan Launch We have been requested by many to launch a smaller range of products allowing more people to purchase our devices. Well we agree. More people should be able to take part in mining for crypto-currencies so we are again launching a mini version of our future miners. The mini Titans and Neptune’s will ship alongside the full size products and like our previous Saturn and Mercury miners will be based on the same size box as their respective full size models to allow future upgrade modules and flexibility. For more details click here for mini Titan and here for mini Neptune. Neptune Third Batch Due to continued demand especially with the continued rising in the bitcoin economy, we have also launched a third batch of Neptune’s with our best ever dollar per hash rate The price for the new box is 5,995 USD, The boxes will ship round 4 weeks after batch two finishes. For more details click here Upgrade cards. We have also released 400 upgrade cards for those of you who wish to still purchase them. They are being shipped from stock and the first boxes have already left with UPS yesterday. Each card is now only 350USD plus shipping. You can order upgrade cards here Jupiter 3TH The window for conversions has now closed we have had over 400 conversions which means we are actively trying to fill all of the orders we have but we will contact customers individually if they are too far back in the queue to be converted. The good news is that the shipment for these orders will begin Tuesday next week after the Easter holidays and we expect it to take only a few days to have all boxes shipped out to customers. Neptune Power Requirements While we will not release the maximum performance of the Neptune miner we can now release the required power supply to give people time to purchase them. The maximum power draw will be 2100w of power and we recommend this to be either two 1200w power supplies or three 850watt power supplies. This does include a bit of a safety margin on our side and of course underclocking will be possible to reduce the power requirements even more. Thanks KnCMiner Team
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April 16, 2014, 02:35:17 PM |
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Ok, still 2100W - Maybe we consume 1800W then on the wall...? Still announced as "30% reduction in watts per GH" -> Jupiter was? ~1W/GH? 30% of 1W/GH = 0.77W/GH 0.77W/GH / 1800W = under 3TH/s => Ok, we must go down to 0.6W/GH then. That's fine, BUT: That would be a much higher "reduction in watts per GH". My conclusion to this is: The Neptune will hash at 3TH/s not much more and hopeful not less...
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mtminer
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April 16, 2014, 02:35:55 PM |
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Well that would be nice but I would be very surprised if they actually did. And I can't emphasize the "very" enough! Then I will have doubled my hash from 4THs to 8THs in one week (just got S2 today).
Nice! Good to hear bitmain are shipping on time. Knc could learn a thing or two from them I think its more tricky wording from them.
Customers will be contacted after 7 days, not that the shipping will start.
They say that "After 7 days from today the exchange will be frozen" and "The products will then be shipped from stock as soon as possible" So the only question - how long is "as soon as possible"? If they have these in stock, as they claim, then "as soon as possible" should mean straight away, right? If it's in stock, then all they need is a UPS label. I think we'll find out if knc truly had 400 "in stock" if they ship before the end of this week. Or whether they were misleading customers - again - with phoney delivery dates. Its another dragged out delay tactic, all well planned.
Shipments could be April, May, June.
In the end I think they are grateful that they have somewhere to unload the older equipment, as they upgrade the datacenters to the Neptunes.
That would be pure evil if they did that! SHIPPING OF THE FRANKENJUP AKA 3TH JUPITER WILL BE AFTER APRIL 20, per kurt from KNC on the knc forum I keep getting the run around from support trying to get the dimensions of the frankenjup boxes. Does anyone know? How can this stuff be in stock if they don't even know the size of what they are shipping?
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vesperwillow
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April 16, 2014, 03:28:15 PM |
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Just got the news update in my inbox. I see they're doing upgrade modules finally. It specifies November batch. Does this mean they won't work in October batch systems?
I believe my Mercury is an October, but I'm not sure. Any easy way to tell? It's been on a shelf mining non stop since November.
Thanks guys.
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RenHoek
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April 16, 2014, 03:49:41 PM |
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Ok, still 2100W - Maybe we consume 1800W then on the wall...? Still announced as "30% reduction in watts per GH" -> Jupiter was? ~1W/GH? 30% of 1W/GH = 0.77W/GH 0.77W/GH / 1800W = under 3TH/s => Ok, we must go down to 0.6W/GH then. That's fine, BUT: That would be a much higher "reduction in watts per GH". My conclusion to this is: The Neptune will hash at 3TH/s not much more and hopeful not less...
2/4/2014 3:40:00 PM kncminer logo Dear All It’s been a while since our last communication and this update is overdue and we do apologise for that. In this newsletter we want to update you on 3 important things.Neptune Development Progress, Jupiter sales and our new project - Plan B. Neptune Development Progress Over the last few months things have most certainly not stopped here at KnC, and we have made massive progress on our 20nm chip and it will be one of the first 20nm chips to come out to market with the strong support of our partners, TSMC, AST and Alchip. The backend engineering teams have been working 7 days a week around the clock to bring this chip to market as fast as possible. We have of course learnt a lot from our previous 28nm design and with that knowledge we will squeeze even more out of our 20nm chip. The news we can tell you today is that we have a further reduction in power consumption of around 11% from our initial calculations, which means we can squeeze in even more cores. The core count per package is already over 1000 and with every reduction in power usage we will add in more cores to maximize the performance. This is a great bit of news. so we must get 3,5 Th/s. (indeed for 10.000 bucks, to less hash power)
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Gazza1
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April 16, 2014, 04:02:52 PM |
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Why on earth would anyone wait half a year to preorder these and get them by the time they are useless when you can order chinese ones that are available now and just as fast for around the same price. And since you get them now they are actually a significantly better deal.
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Impossible is a word found only in the dictionary of fools.
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