Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 10:16:01 AM |
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Board to set strategic direction for Mooncoin. Proposed duties: To decide how to spend the funds from the upcoming crowdfund(s), for example new devs, additional exchange integration. Decide dramatic changes to code, for example scrypt to lyra2m etc - board must include lead dev. Decide aesthetic changes, i.e maintaining quality control, new logo, website, Act as reps for the ecosystem, talking to media (the blockchain being used to reward young people for doing well at school will definitely get mainstream news attention), giving investors confidence, securing deals and partnerships with the many non-crypto like-minded organisations. To engage with the bigger community we are about to welcome, and to make decisions in hours not days/weeks - mooncoin has already been copied by the ACT ico. Vote yes for progress. Vote no to remain as it is. http://www.poll-maker.com/poll1133901xb5434115-47Poll will end in 24 hours. Do you mean by 'yes' the Board of Directors (obviously from Discord) that will decide things? What is the ACT ico? Any link?
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 10:27:43 AM |
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Also the problem is not to decide things, we all agree with good things that don't affect MOON, and all are waiting for them, to get these things successully completed is the problem.
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August 01, 2017, 10:37:09 AM |
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No I mean the whole community. The vote for who can sit on the board will be public- experience, qualifications, and loyalty to mooncoin should be the deciding factors. ACT ico https://ibb.co/dnBskQ https://www.daoact.org/
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August 01, 2017, 10:39:16 AM |
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Also the problem is not to decide things, we all agree with good things that don't affect MOON, and all are waiting for them, to get these things successully completed is the problem.
This is why the board is necessary.
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 10:54:51 AM |
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Also the problem is not to decide things, we all agree with good things that don't affect MOON, and all are waiting for them, to get these things successully completed is the problem.
This is why the board is necessary. No, it just could add more bureaucracy, but will not help raise money or find and implement great solutions. Zero is zero with or without the Board of Directors, and good things work even with no directors.
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 11:04:54 AM |
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I didn't see how the ACT ico copied MOON. Also at mooncoin.eco there is a wrong information about SmartLikes, they are not for tipping for posts, it disorients people.
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August 01, 2017, 11:28:20 AM |
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No, it just could add more bureaucracy,
As i said before, the current system hasn't done anything for us. There wont be excessive administrative procedures, the bureaucracy is in the current system, look at the logo issue.
but will not help raise money or find and implement great solutions.
A board will offer something real to potential investors. We already have plenty of great solutions, but to decide which ones to use brings unnecessary complications, delays, and eventual disinterest.
Zero is zero with or without the Board of Directors,
As above, a board will give investors confidence in mooncoin. I refuse to present Mooncoin to investors without getting the fundamentals correct.
and good things work even with no directors.
I´m still waiting for this to happen.
I didn't see how the ACT ico copied MOON.
They copied moon edu, including the slogan.
Also at mooncoin.eco there is a wrong information about SmartLikes, they are not for tipping for posts, it disorients people.
The board will reconcile mooncoin.com and mooncoin.eco so to be one website, from there we will have a standard of quality across all of mooncoin. No one is sure of what any mooncoin features actually do, there is no continuity or anything clearly stated.
Look, Mooncoin is an unfunny joke across the internet, but it does have potential. This board is what people have been calling for.
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 11:36:41 AM |
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If you are not sure what Mooncoin features really do, please just read trusted sources of Mooncoin information, which you could find in the OP.
P.S. Barrysty1e has just PMd, maybe more news soon.
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August 01, 2017, 11:46:58 AM |
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I am aware of what content is available and many questions get left unanswered re moonword and smart-likes. You´re here debating against me over something good for mooncoin and not taking steps to build mooncoin.
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 11:53:24 AM |
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If anyone has questions, he can always ask them here or PM,
a progress cannot be done just by trying to convert a decentralised coin to a centralised company. It will not work.
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 12:09:59 PM |
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If you want to be key persons in MOON development, no one will mind it, do something, raise funds, find transparent and good devs, create projects, discuss, promote etc.
but don't try to bring centralisation and bureaucracy, it will not work.
MOON has 37000 funded addresses, only if more than a half of addresses (which exist at the moment) vote with messages, signed with these addresses, that they want to convert MOON to a centralised company, there will be a real quorum, not just let's vote somewhere during 24 hours and then decide things.
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August 01, 2017, 12:19:32 PM |
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If anyone has questions, he can always ask them here or PM,
a progress cannot be done just by trying to convert a decentralised coin to a centralised company. It will not work.
Someone reading about any products features should understand what they are within a few seconds and not need to find a website that to ask someone about how feature x works. The proposal is to create a board and not a centralised company. However, there is a clear need for organisation and direction, how do you think we can take mooncoin to the market without some formal structure? Read up on open source for profit companies- that is essentially what we are without formally declaring it. The software should always be decentralised, otherwise it defeats the purpose of the blockchain.
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August 01, 2017, 12:23:07 PM |
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If you want to be key persons in MOON development, no one will mind it, do something, raise funds, find transparent and good devs, create projects, discuss, promote etc.
but don't try to bring centralisation and bureaucracy, it will not work.
MOON has 37000 funded addresses, only if more than a half of addresses (which exist at the moment) vote with messages, signed with these addresses, that they want to convert MOON to a centralised company, there will be a real quorum, not just let's vote somewhere during 24 hours and then decide things.
You are being dramatic when you keep talking about centralisation and bureaucracy. Look at any of the most successful up and coming coins and you will see they all have teams of people giving direction to the coin. If you want to be key persons in MOON development, no one will mind it, do something, raise funds, find transparent and good devs, create projects, discuss, promote etc.
The real question is, why haven't you or anyone else done this already?
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 12:40:30 PM |
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Better to do nothing than to do things that will affect MOON.
Also something is done definitely, people were thanking for that, some members donated a lot since 2014, you just have no idea, because they don't speak about it.
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August 01, 2017, 01:32:58 PM |
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Also the problem is not to decide things, we all agree with good things that don't affect MOON, and all are waiting for them, to get these things successully completed is the problem.
This is why the board is necessary. No, it just could add more bureaucracy, but will not help raise money or find and implement great solutions. Zero is zero with or without the Board of Directors, and good things work even with no directors. Lol, actually takes away all the bureaucracy we have right now. You know, the endless polls for every small matter. Good things do not work without directors. That has been proven over and over in history. Feel free to proof me wrong.
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August 01, 2017, 01:36:58 PM |
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Better to do nothing than to do things that will affect MOON.
Also something is done definitely, people were thanking for that, some members donated a lot since 2014, you just have no idea, because they don't speak about it.
To who did they donate? That money should go to Baz/Community fund.
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 02:12:27 PM |
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Better to do nothing than to do things that will affect MOON.
Also something is done definitely, people were thanking for that, some members donated a lot since 2014, you just have no idea, because they don't speak about it.
To who did they donate? That money should go to Baz/Community fund. Listing at exchanges, block explorers, nodes, devs... since 2014 also to barry (since 2016). BTW he PMd now for more donations. Did you raise something for him already, should I redirect him to Discord?
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 02:29:25 PM Last edit: August 01, 2017, 02:43:05 PM by Mooncoin_Foundation |
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Good things do not work without directors. That has been proven over and over in history. Feel free to proof me wrong.
Bitcoin is not a company, has no directors and it's successful. I'm not against progress and a team, also endless polls are definitely a bad idea. But why just not to suggest something good? Be sure no one will be against it. Why do we need a board of directors just to implement something good? A new algo, okay, no one is against it, people understand that currently it doesn't work as needed, just come with your GOOD initiatives and everything is okay. If you do something good which doesn't affect people and their investments, they will not mind. You're welcome.
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August 01, 2017, 02:44:45 PM Last edit: August 01, 2017, 03:52:44 PM by Big-moon-discord |
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Bitcoin is not a company, has no directors and it's successful.
Nearly every coin has better tech than Bitcoin and if it launched today it would fail dramatically. It was the first of it's kind and goes by it's own rules because it has had a long time to establish itself and everyone knows what it is.
I'm not against progress and a team, also endless polls are definitely a bad idea.
A board will stop the need for unnecessary polls.
But why just not to suggest something good? Be sure no one will be against it.
Completely your opinion what is good or bad and completely unrealistic to expect no opposition to any plan.
Why do we need a board of directors just to implement something good?
Because very little has happened in four years.
A new algo, okay, no one is against it, people understand that currently it doesn't work as needed, just come with you GOOD initiatives and everything is okay.
A board is probably the best step Mooncoin has ever made.
If you do something which doesn't affect people, their money etc, they will not mind.
Not having a board adversely affects my money, I mind.
You're welcome.
Not contributing to the solution and being arrogant about it is probably the reason nothing has happened. I ask you to take a step back and get to work on building Mooncoin.
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Mooncoin_Foundation (OP)
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August 01, 2017, 02:53:16 PM |
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Completely your opinion what is good or bad and completely unrealistic to expect no opposition to any plan.
Not my opinion, it's how decentralised systems work. If you are trying to implement something not good, not fair etc, people (miners, exchanges, block explorers) simply don't support that. You can start your own exchanges, pools, explorers, but it will cost a lot of money, and will lead to a split anyway. So why do you need all that, if you can be fair and suggest and implement good things, people see that and understand, and agree with it.
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