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February 28, 2020, 04:59:55 PM

In which case Bitcoin will not go up. Fiat will simply go down.

In other news, watch out: Latest Mozilla update wants to route your DNS queries through cloudflare. Which since it's an internet provider means the Govt will be able to see all of your queries without a warrant.

(Run your own DNS servers ffs)

Doesn't Mozilla obey to your OS network settings?
Used to, but apparently there is a new "feature" where DNS lookups are passed to the "cloud" rather than going through your local resolver.


Thanks for the heads-up, guys. I went and found out it can be disabled.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-https
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Manually Enabling and disabling DNS-over-HTTPS

You can enable or disable DoH in your Firefox connection settings:

    Click the menu button Fx57Menu and select Options.
    In the General panel, scroll down to Network Settings and click the Settings… button.
    In the dialog box that opens, scroll down to Enable DNS over HTTPS.

        On: Select the Enable DNS over HTTPS checkbox. Select a provider or set up a custom provider.
        Off: Deselect the Enable DNS over HTTPS checkbox.

    toggle doh

    Click OK to save your changes and close the window.

which just puts you back to the old default of plaintext (non https) DNS queries being harvested by your ISP

I have done a bit of reading and come to the conclusion that Mozilla is, as usual, the good guy in all this.  Yes, the use of cloudflare is unfortunate, but difficult to avoid, you will recall that even theymos buckled and put this very forum behind cloudflare a couple years ago.

The point about nefarious state actors now having a central collection source is well taken, but let's face it, 99.99% of people are not going to run their own DNS or a VPN.  If state actors really want your lookups they are going to get them.  This at least ends the casual data scraping by commercial entities.
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February 28, 2020, 05:36:08 PM

In which case Bitcoin will not go up. Fiat will simply go down.

In other news, watch out: Latest Mozilla update wants to route your DNS queries through cloudflare. Which since it's an internet provider means the Govt will be able to see all of your queries without a warrant.

(Run your own DNS servers ffs)

Doesn't Mozilla obey to your OS network settings?
Used to, but apparently there is a new "feature" where DNS lookups are passed to the "cloud" rather than going through your local resolver.


Thanks for the heads-up, guys. I went and found out it can be disabled.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-dns-over-https
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Manually Enabling and disabling DNS-over-HTTPS

You can enable or disable DoH in your Firefox connection settings:

    Click the menu button Fx57Menu and select Options.
    In the General panel, scroll down to Network Settings and click the Settings… button.
    In the dialog box that opens, scroll down to Enable DNS over HTTPS.

        On: Select the Enable DNS over HTTPS checkbox. Select a provider or set up a custom provider.
        Off: Deselect the Enable DNS over HTTPS checkbox.

    toggle doh

    Click OK to save your changes and close the window.

Ok so whats your DNS after you disable it? UK people won't get the feature by default and have to manually enable it because government complained with "but then it'd be hard for us to monitor them"
https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-no-plans-to-enable-dns-over-https-by-default-in-the-uk/

But here you want to disable it? If you don't trust Cloudflare (and i don't) why not just point it to a custom DNS over HTTPS server that you do trust, surely anything would be better than your ISP?
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February 28, 2020, 05:43:21 PM

Update:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/ME0DngUr-Short-term-analysis-ending-diagonal/

I really didn't want this to happen but... It looks like it is happening. More importantly...



Something very wild is about to happen. Worst case is $6k. Best case is, moon :p
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February 28, 2020, 05:45:53 PM
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Almost there.

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You really should be using a good VPN all the time with their own DNS servers. For those times you are not on the VPN configure the DNS servers for both your computer and router to one recommended by OpenNIC. Don't use a modem and router supplied by your ISP, buy your own.
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February 28, 2020, 05:53:30 PM

Can anyone confirm in Italy there was a news people infected with a virus and they were not in any contact with other infected people?


Of course they were in contact in some way. They just didn't know it. Maybe they use the door knob on the same bathroom then touched their face. This thing is contagious, possible R0 of 6, most in a months time few people are going to know where they caught it.
How do you know that? What if they didn't have any contacts with nobody?

I used to have few contacts with very few people, and never got sick. Now I am in contact with more people, and catch more stuff (but still beat them easily, so far). I'm probably more dangerous since I can carry deadly stuff that doesn't really affect me.
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February 28, 2020, 05:55:06 PM

Can anyone confirm in Italy there was a news people infected with a virus and they were not in any contact with other infected people?

Of course they were in contact in some way. They just didn't know it. Maybe they use the door knob on the same bathroom then touched their face. This thing is contagious, possible R0 of 6, most in a months time few people are going to know where they caught it.
How do you know that? What if they didn't have any contacts with nobody?

What? a virus does not just spontaneously create itself or teleport from one location to another. I know that doesn't happen because science.
Yea it's strange to me that the cured people could get the infection again after a very short time. Is this even possible?  I mean once you get cured you're supposed to be healthy at least for some time.

My opinion is that they weren't cured, the virus was just beat down enough that symptoms went away and it became difficult to detect (like HIV when taking a tritherapy).
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February 28, 2020, 05:58:47 PM

Bitcoin can be the solution for many things, gold has always been in crisis, currently for many it is also considered a safe haven.

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February 28, 2020, 06:18:44 PM

Almost no virus in Africa and South America.

And why do you think that is?

Perhaps air travel is not very popular/developed in these regions compared to Europe/N.America? Also not many Chinese people live there...  Cool
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February 28, 2020, 07:00:02 PM

These days, I'm happiest with a MacBook Pro keyboard. Go figure.

Really? I have a 2017 Macbook Pro with the butterfly keyboard and it drives me nuts! Its constantly sticking and encouraging me to use excessive amounts of profanity and hit it with a hammer!
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February 28, 2020, 07:29:38 PM

Almost no virus in Africa and South America.

And why do you think that is?

Perhaps air travel is not very popular/developed in these regions compared to Europe/N.America? Also not many Chinese people live there...  Cool

A lot of Chinese travel to Africa, and i think Ethiopian air still has flights to China. Might be hotter climate, influenza/flu tend to like colder seasons/climates 
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February 28, 2020, 07:52:57 PM

Almost no virus in Africa and South America.

And why do you think that is?

Perhaps air travel is not very popular/developed in these regions compared to Europe/N.America? Also not many Chinese people live there...  Cool

A lot of Chinese travel to Africa, and i think Ethiopian air still has flights to China. Might be hotter climate, influenza/flu tend to like colder seasons/climates 

in Africa, just the population density is small and therefore there is no such distribution as such ... note that it is active mainly in megacities
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February 28, 2020, 07:56:50 PM

Gold is not behaving well at all today.
I guess that you are 'not allowed' to have any hedges apart from stupid bonds, which are overvalued.
10 year went up (down in yield) like 12% today, lol.
I am very surprised that we keep trickling down 2-3% in the stock market almost ever day. Very strange.
I would have assumed that markets can price in everything quicker.
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February 28, 2020, 07:58:18 PM

We have a newbie?

No, it's for the rookies to know. Wink

rook da n00bzzz  Cool Grin Cheesy
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February 28, 2020, 08:05:29 PM

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-bounces-off-84k-4-week-low-as-it-tracks-stock-to-flow-target
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Gold is not behaving well at all today.
I guess that you are 'not allowed' to have any hedges apart from stupid bonds, which are overvalued.
10 year went up (down in yield) like 12% today, lol.
I am very surprised that we keep trickling down 2-3% in the stock market almost ever day. Very strange.
I would have assumed that markets can price in everything quicker.

Sounds like manipulation. They won't let gold go over $2k/ounce because they can manipulate its supply on paper. Nobody really knows how much gold is in existence and nobody can verify it neither. Maybe half of the gold reserves in China are tungsten bars nobody can really know.

That kind of attack won't work on bitcoin.
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February 28, 2020, 08:11:21 PM

tungsten makes better AP rounds anyway
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February 28, 2020, 08:15:58 PM

[...] Maybe half of the gold reserves in China are tungsten bars nobody can really know.
US gold reserve scrambled and stalled for weeks when Germany asked to return the gold they stored there. There is just thin-air bars there.
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February 28, 2020, 08:16:37 PM

BTCUSD looks like it's about to spring upwards hard.....
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BTCUSD looks like it's about to spring upwards hard.....

Good. Finally an end to all the sissy bear talk here  Roll Eyes
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