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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2035624 times)
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July 26, 2013, 07:42:33 PM
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With the new ASIC-compatible version of p2pool, is it still recommended to turn off queuing in cgminer?
is p2pool now 100% Avalon - ready?
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July 26, 2013, 09:29:36 PM
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With the new ASIC-compatible version of p2pool, is it still recommended to turn off queuing in cgminer?
is p2pool now 100% Avalon - ready?
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July 26, 2013, 09:43:54 PM
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I'm confused - if I open my p2pool to the general internet public, how do they get paid?  Does p2pool do all this automatically? 

If Joe Bloggs mines on my p2pool node using his BTC address as his username, does p2pool automatically pay Joe when a block is found?

The way p2pool works is that the coinbase transaction (generated by the node that finds the block) directly pays the 25 BTC to each of the addresses that earned the payout.  This is true regardless of if someone mines on a private or public node.

So payments go to other/my nodes, rather than to miners who connect to my node?

So, if Joe Bloggs connected his miner to my pool, he'd just be donating some hashes to my node for no reward?

Miners have to specify payout address as their username. If they give an invalid address or any other login or no login at all, they will mine to the node's address.

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July 27, 2013, 12:08:54 AM
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I'm confused - if I open my p2pool to the general internet public, how do they get paid?  Does p2pool do all this automatically? 

If Joe Bloggs mines on my p2pool node using his BTC address as his username, does p2pool automatically pay Joe when a block is found?

The way p2pool works is that the coinbase transaction (generated by the node that finds the block) directly pays the 25 BTC to each of the addresses that earned the payout.  This is true regardless of if someone mines on a private or public node.

So payments go to other/my nodes, rather than to miners who connect to my node?

So, if Joe Bloggs connected his miner to my pool, he'd just be donating some hashes to my node for no reward?

payouts go to the addresses that found shares.  If a miner connecting to your node uses their address as their username and finds shares, they will get paid.  If they don't use an address as a username, your node will use your node's address for any found shares (i.e. they are donating hashes to you).  You can also specify a fee % so that some percentage of the shares they find will be assigned to your node's address instead of the address they used as a username.

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July 27, 2013, 01:31:36 AM
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I think the point he is missing in the discussion is that p2pool is a share chain like bitcoin is a block chain
(and of course the share chain is a construction 'above' the block chain)

Everyone using p2pool is mining against the same share chain and your shares will not be accepted unless they pay out everyone mining as per the current share chain
You don't have a private p2pool that is only for you.

I also wonder if he's missing the point that you can't redirect a hash to somewhere else without effectively mining for that somewhere else (e.g. you'd be solo mining thus only finding a block every ... once in an eternity)

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July 27, 2013, 02:20:25 AM
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There could be corrupt nodes that ignore your address though.

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July 27, 2013, 06:51:50 AM
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Thank you twmz and baloo_kiev, that explains it. Smiley  It basically works the same as Eligius, then.  Mine with your address to get paid, mine without to donate to the pool funds.
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July 27, 2013, 06:56:24 AM
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With the new ASIC-compatible version of p2pool, is it still recommended to turn off queuing in cgminer?
Any input on this? I'm trying p2pool with my Jalapeño and I'm curious if this still makes a difference.

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July 27, 2013, 07:44:13 AM
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With the new ASIC-compatible version of p2pool, is it still recommended to turn off queuing in cgminer?
Any input on this? I'm trying p2pool with my Jalapeño and I'm curious if this still makes a difference.
Don't turn off queueing. This is misguided information.

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July 27, 2013, 07:53:51 AM
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With the new ASIC-compatible version of p2pool, is it still recommended to turn off queuing in cgminer?
Any input on this? I'm trying p2pool with my Jalapeño and I'm curious if this still makes a difference.
Don't turn off queueing. This is misguided information.
Cool, thanks. I'll turn that back on then. Smiley

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July 27, 2013, 08:39:29 AM
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Thank you twmz and baloo_kiev, that explains it. Smiley  It basically works the same as Eligius, then.  Mine with your address to get paid, mine without to donate to the pool funds.

Thats wrong.
Without address is Donate to the NODE owner, Not the entire Pool .

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July 27, 2013, 08:45:06 AM
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Thank you twmz and baloo_kiev, that explains it. Smiley  It basically works the same as Eligius, then.  Mine with your address to get paid, mine without to donate to the pool funds.

Thats wrong.
Without address is Donate to the NODE owner, Not the entire Pool .

Yes, sorry, that's what I meant.   I'm confusing Node with Pool.   Roll Eyes
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July 27, 2013, 11:08:47 AM
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With the new ASIC-compatible version of p2pool, is it still recommended to turn off queuing in cgminer?
Any input on this? I'm trying p2pool with my Jalapeño and I'm curious if this still makes a difference.
Don't turn off queueing. This is misguided information.

ckolivas, is that true for jalepeno's - or p2pool in general?

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July 27, 2013, 12:19:22 PM
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There could be corrupt nodes that ignore your address though.

It can be easily verified if you connect with stratum.

By the way, you should monitor it constantly if you mine on a public node, especially if it charges fee. Technically, a node takes fee by randomly giving work for its own address. On average, a miner gets %fee% node-address works in 100 requests. And those "randomly" and "on average" mean that 1 request is not enough to determine whether a node actually charges the same fee that it states.

Hence also a way for mining without fee on any node. If a miner modifies his mining software code, he can mine only to his own address. Whenever the node gives work for its own address, the miner can just discard it and make another request immediately.

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July 27, 2013, 05:08:25 PM
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What is the latest p2pool version today? 13.2-2-gebae741 ??

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July 27, 2013, 06:15:42 PM
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What is the latest p2pool version today? 13.2-2-gebae741 ??
The latest is commit 07162a3f7d, ebae741e9e is almost a week old. https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool/commits/master

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July 27, 2013, 08:43:49 PM
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I just reset one of my p2pool nodes (to add more outgoing connections).... did the whole loading share business & got that finished before cancelling out the first process, so it was down for maybe 10 seconds, the part where it's out of sync until the next 'new work' broadcast..

Anyway, it looks like someone got out of sync, where they're getting like 60% DOA now.  I tried to reset it again but that didn't do anything.  Is there any way to "fix" that?  The only thing I can think of is taking the pool offline for a minute or two & hope the person has a backup pool set?

Local rate: 8.93GH/s (50% DOA) Expected time to share: 1.44 hours

(normally it's 0-5% DOA)

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July 28, 2013, 02:51:11 AM
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Hi there. Please review:

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31222636

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Important info : some p2pool users aren't running the latest client build, if you're running p2pool, please download last TRC client and/or update your client source code prior to new compilation

The p2pool web site is showing about 200 incompatible blocks "ahead" of the official chain. The new version of TRC was mandatory as of block 175,000.

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July 28, 2013, 08:56:27 AM
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Hello everybody.

I recently updated my p2pool installation to 13.2 and my TRC client/wallet to the last available 0.1.3-44 and this started a multitude of problems and malfunctions.

- My p2pool shortcut command is: (...program path) --net terracoin -a myTRCpublicaddress
- My TRC client/wallet shorcut command is: (program path) -datadir=Y:\Terracoin (I use another data dir than the default)
- In my default TRC datadir path and in Y:\Terracoin directory I have a notecard called "terracoin.conf" with this text:

server=1
rpcuser=(myusername)
rpcpassword=(mypassword)
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1

Something wrong is happening after do these updates, there are no shares, no orphan, no dead..., no payments, a lot of block-stales detected and everything has stopped working normally.  I deleted and rebuild the TRC client and p2pool share blocks but still the same issue.   I use CGminer 2.11.4 for mining and the program connects and shows good the accepted shares as always but it's like not connected.  

I never had problems with p2pool and TRC, What can I do?
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July 28, 2013, 09:39:15 AM
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Your p2pool could be connected to forked nodes?

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