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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2029043 times)
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August 21, 2013, 03:12:31 PM
 #6481

P2Pool Sub-Pool for Low Hash-Rate Miners
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Any feedback? Does this sound like a reasonable idea? Any big problems with it?
Why not reanimate p2pmining?


That is being done I think.   Fuzzy Pool

As I understand it the btc part all works, but the mm needs to hit some blocks so it can be tested and fixed up.



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August 21, 2013, 03:36:25 PM
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You get paid for each share you have found within the PPLNS window.  So the smallest payment you can get is for 1 share, which translates to ~0.003-0.004 BTC at the moment. 

Ahh ok.  So, with 8640 shares, that is 25 / 8640 = 0.00289 minimum?

Has there been any consideration to consolidation into larger payments?  For example, your "account" maintains a balance and is paid out when it exceeds 0.01 BTC, or when it is about to fall off the end of the chain.

Effectively, when there is a win, anyone who holds a share has their account increased by the number of shares they hold.  The payouts are to the accounts who are owed the most and to also to accounts that are near the end of the chain (as they are at risk of falling off the chain).

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August 21, 2013, 03:58:58 PM
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You get paid for each share you have found within the PPLNS window.  So the smallest payment you can get is for 1 share, which translates to ~0.003-0.004 BTC at the moment. 

Ahh ok.  So, with 8640 shares, that is 25 / 8640 = 0.00289 minimum?

Has there been any consideration to consolidation into larger payments?  For example, your "account" maintains a balance and is paid out when it exceeds 0.01 BTC, or when it is about to fall off the end of the chain.

Effectively, when there is a win, anyone who holds a share has their account increased by the number of shares they hold.  The payouts are to the accounts who are owed the most and to also to accounts that are near the end of the chain (as they are at risk of falling off the chain).

Mathematically, that would be the same as manually boosting the difficulty of the shares returned to the network. You'll get paid less often (large variance), but your payouts will be larger. This features is already built-in.

log in with the username "username/difficulty". Current difficulty is ~20,000. So if you want 2x larger payments (paid out 2x less frequently), log in to your p2pool as "username/40000".
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August 21, 2013, 04:21:13 PM
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Mathematically, that would be the same as manually boosting the difficulty of the shares returned to the network. You'll get paid less often (large variance), but your payouts will be larger. This features is already built-in.

I don't think so.  The point is that some people wouldn't be paid when a block is found, who previously would have been. 

If there was 100 shares to be paid, 25 might get 4X the payment and the other 75 would get nothing.  However, the pool would remember that it owes each of them whatever they would have been paid.

When a miner hasn't been seen for 75% of the chain, then they would be paid out no matter how low their balance.

For it to work miners would have to be willing to keep a positive balance on the chain.  However, when someone leaves, they still get a payout.

This balance effectively gets creates anyway when the chain is started.  The miners who mined the start of the chain got a higher reward until things settle down.

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August 21, 2013, 11:39:03 PM
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For higher hashrate miners, is it suggested to manually set the difficulty in cgminer (with p2pool), or does it not matter?

For example, right now my cgminer instance is running at around 42GH/s. It has set the difficulty to 8. Is there any reason to set it higher than that? Reduced bandwidth/latency? My miners are on the same LAN as my p2pool but a different box.

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August 22, 2013, 08:48:59 AM
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For higher hashrate miners, is it suggested to manually set the difficulty in cgminer (with p2pool), or does it not matter?

For example, right now my cgminer instance is running at around 42GH/s. It has set the difficulty to 8. Is there any reason to set it higher than that? Reduced bandwidth/latency? My miners are on the same LAN as my p2pool but a different box.
Every share you send back to p2pool has to be processed by p2pool also.
If when you were mining at 1GH/s and 1diff was ok - then now at 42GH/s ... 32diff should be fine and a good reduction in traffic and work for p2pool

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August 23, 2013, 07:49:25 AM
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Anyone else noticed GetBlock Latency seems a little higher with 13.3?  I used to get about 0.2s on average with 13.2, but it seems to run about 0.35-0.4s now.  I ran an old snapshot (Hyper-V snapshot I took before upgrading), and it still runs about 0.2s.
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August 23, 2013, 07:50:47 AM
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For higher hashrate miners, is it suggested to manually set the difficulty in cgminer (with p2pool), or does it not matter?

For example, right now my cgminer instance is running at around 42GH/s. It has set the difficulty to 8. Is there any reason to set it higher than that? Reduced bandwidth/latency? My miners are on the same LAN as my p2pool but a different box.
Every share you send back to p2pool has to be processed by p2pool also.
If when you were mining at 1GH/s and 1diff was ok - then now at 42GH/s ... 32diff should be fine and a good reduction in traffic and work for p2pool
I don't suppose you know what's going on in the cases I've mentioned earlier, re: 'block punishing'?  I mean, it just occurred again:

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2013-08-23 02:36:36.305546 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:36.339671 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.351527 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.751961 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.761378 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.771340 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.054000 BTC including 81 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.814705 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.819406 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.824652 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:36.864917 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:37.098987 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.809972 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:38.222282 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:38.224874 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:38.378350 P2Pool: 17381 shares in chain (17386 verified/17386 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:38.378422  Local: 26290MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.6% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 55.6 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:38.378471  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:38.378500  Pool: 6347GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:39.802242 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.564387 Share difficulty: 20478.925821 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:41.380678 P2Pool: 17381 shares in chain (17386 verified/17386 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:41.380785  Local: 26309MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.1% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 55.6 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:41.380812  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:41.380839  Pool: 6347GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:43.231486 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:43.234013 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!
2013-08-23 02:36:44.384158 P2Pool: 17381 shares in chain (17386 verified/17386 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:44.384233  Local: 26209MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.2% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:44.384265  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:44.384313  Pool: 6347GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:44.752935 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:44.758756 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:44.762847 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:44.766554 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:44.770481 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.293497 Share difficulty: 20477.949393 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 6 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:47.387908 P2Pool: 17383 shares in chain (17387 verified/17387 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:47.387956  Local: 26146MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.4% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:47.387977  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:47.387999  Pool: 6210GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.8 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:50.391492 P2Pool: 17383 shares in chain (17387 verified/17387 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:50.391569  Local: 25876MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.5% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 56.5 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:50.391623  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:50.391659  Pool: 6210GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.8 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:52.048541 Peer sent entire transaction 50568fcac8cba9832defc7b00d60525d974398a0a8d024f020e547c2e0ba5d21 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:36:53.395083 P2Pool: 17383 shares in chain (17387 verified/17387 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:53.395145  Local: 25977MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.4% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 56.3 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:53.395178  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:53.395232  Pool: 6210GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.8 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:55.116668 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:55.121003 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:55.126434 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:55.130866 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:55.135451 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.803832 Share difficulty: 20703.110888 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:36:56.398741 P2Pool: 17384 shares in chain (17388 verified/17388 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:56.398809  Local: 26169MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.9% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:56.398833  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:56.398860  Pool: 6317GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:36:59.402290 P2Pool: 17384 shares in chain (17388 verified/17388 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:36:59.402359  Local: 26216MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.0% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:36:59.402384  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:36:59.402410  Pool: 6317GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:02.404632 P2Pool: 17384 shares in chain (17388 verified/17388 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:02.404679  Local: 26219MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.0% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:02.404698  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.0% (69-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:02.404727  Pool: 6317GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:04.131761 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:04.136337 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:04.140519 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:04.144732 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:04.149379 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.146221 Share difficulty: 20766.274991 Total block value: 25.008500 BTC including 13 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:05.408842 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17389 verified/17389 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:05.408916  Local: 26269MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.0% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 55.7 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:05.408961  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:05.408989  Pool: 6393GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:06.977319 Peer sent entire transaction 33e2ab4c055cc4ca86bc4e91a498251bd6b67ad895a8c14a5ee8343e3404bc11 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:07.464300 Peer sent entire transaction 0e48dd63a527fbf741151d1c4ee5072d9b80fb90391870b13e8a5cf8721d843d that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:08.322038 Peer sent entire transaction aa12f6d1365091314d45a42e4d3416686bae16065aa3f72bf8bb9f970183d1fd that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:08.323989 Peer sent entire transaction aa12f6d1365091314d45a42e4d3416686bae16065aa3f72bf8bb9f970183d1fd that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:08.413169 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17389 verified/17389 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:08.413239  Local: 26160MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.4% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:08.413273  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:08.413315  Pool: 6393GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:08.487781 Peer sent entire transaction aa12f6d1365091314d45a42e4d3416686bae16065aa3f72bf8bb9f970183d1fd that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:08.528353 Peer sent entire transaction aa12f6d1365091314d45a42e4d3416686bae16065aa3f72bf8bb9f970183d1fd that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:11.415357 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17389 verified/17389 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:11.415431  Local: 26174MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.4% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:11.415456  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:11.415484  Pool: 6393GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:14.419718 P2Pool: 17385 shares in chain (17389 verified/17389 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:14.419775  Local: 26158MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.4% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:14.419795  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:14.419816  Pool: 6393GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:15.313745 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:15.319642 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:15.324575 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:15.329373 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:15.334505 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.575333 Share difficulty: 20986.878674 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.424088 P2Pool: 17386 shares in chain (17390 verified/17390 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:17.424157  Local: 26216MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.5% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:17.424182  Shares: 10 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~10.0% (1-41%) Efficiency: ~105.8% (70-116%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:17.424209  Pool: 6370GH/s Stale rate: 14.9% Expected time to block: 9.5 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:17.555224 GOT SHARE! 1M3F5DR4vApgHqsAJ6U1HE4HNEjo7Pm52j 6715f728 prev 8330845a age 2.24s
2013-08-23 02:37:17.598157 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.603165 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.608200 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.612861 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:17.617838 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.823438 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.013400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:20.428282 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:20.428353  Local: 26184MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.6% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:20.428377  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:20.428404  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:22.190647 Peer sent entire transaction bd24d80d5bec4ee1fdf2fd6acb915b093a0b80297e6f9c7f27c9a274160301e0 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:23.432429 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:23.432515  Local: 26203MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.6% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:23.432557  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:23.432607  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:26.434657 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:26.434714  Local: 26320MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.5% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.6 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:26.434733  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:26.434763  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:29.202000 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.209532 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.214798 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.220106 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.225737 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.255298 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:29.438895 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:29.438951  Local: 26172MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.6% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 55.9 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:29.438976  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:29.439019  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:29.751491 Peer sent entire transaction d07644cdb394408d5577d94fab28bd7bd6d37409caec910d1f10cda3441485ce that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:32.441166 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:32.441222  Local: 26142MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:32.441243  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:32.441264  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:32.794320 Peer sent entire transaction a0942de9274557442c23612adedbbee0e7f15a8bfe819da531db10945fa93d72 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:33.295995 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.177154 Share difficulty: 21098.014727 Total block value: 25.012400 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 02:37:35.445414 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:35.445470  Local: 26108MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:35.445505  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:35.445533  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:38.447588 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:38.447666  Local: 25810MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.7 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:38.447697  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:38.447740  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:41.451777 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:41.451844  Local: 25809MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.7 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:41.451869  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:41.451896  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:44.455965 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17391 verified/17391 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:44.456027  Local: 25760MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 56.8 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:44.456059  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:44.456102  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:44.833058 Peer sent entire transaction 40a891f6f36e899eee66d7c9eafeca70dc823b858f062379035be825240ec952 that was already received
2013-08-23 02:37:47.460145 P2Pool: 17387 shares in chain (17392 verified/17392 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:47.460219  Local: 25623MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.1 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:47.460249  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:47.460296  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:50.464325 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:50.464400  Local: 25532MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.9% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.3 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:50.464432  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:50.464475  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:53.466555 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:53.466615  Local: 25621MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.1 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:53.466634  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:53.466656  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:56.470720 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:56.470776  Local: 25707MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:56.470801  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:56.470828  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:37:59.474910 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:37:59.474971  Local: 25614MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.8% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.2 minutes
2013-08-23 02:37:59.475010  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:37:59.475054  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:38:00.136204 Peer sent entire transaction 4e2d5605ee677eb05d5886f1d4880adbbe0feaad0454dbfd7a135c0a5f72fa8a that was already received
2013-08-23 02:38:02.477363 P2Pool: 17341 shares in chain (17345 verified/17345 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:38:02.477408  Local: 25701MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.3% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:38:02.477428  Shares: 11 (0 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~9.1% (1-38%) Efficiency: ~106.1% (72-115%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:38:02.477449  Pool: 6338GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours
2013-08-23 02:38:03.052989 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:03.058485 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:03.063583 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:03.068791 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:03.074284 New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.691175 Share difficulty: 21030.759769 Total block value: 25.016600 BTC including 26 transactions
2013-08-23 02:38:05.481469 P2Pool: 17342 shares in chain (17346 verified/17346 total) Peers: 56 (17 incoming)
2013-08-23 02:38:05.481524  Local: 25697MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~10.5% (8-14%) Expected time to share: 57.0 minutes
2013-08-23 02:38:05.481548  Shares: 11 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~18.2% (5-48%) Efficiency: ~95.5% (61-111%) Current payout: 0.0196 BTC
2013-08-23 02:38:05.481575  Pool: 6299GH/s Stale rate: 14.3% Expected time to block: 9.6 hours

This time it didn't happen to me, just someone else on my pool

this is the parent share:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000001f90357a566ca033b29dc46ae0b94d7eb6768c31ec2628330845a

this share occurred 2 seconds later:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#0000000000018eac2129fca1b0e81f0c534cdc3ae31a37ee8efc86ae6715f728

yet was orphaned by this:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#00000000000198d38c5f376622d534be44609dccc809cf5ef7db34c24d4d25bc

This is the block that the second share built off of:

2013-08-23 07:37:29 received block 0000000000000024459f254565cf9805af13e4dbb84f02d7427ba01a213fd2c1 from xxx (edited out ip)

so, that means

2013-08-23 02:37:17.555224 GOT SHARE! 1M3F5DR4vApgHqsAJ6U1HE4HNEjo7Pm52j 6715f728 prev 8330845a age 2.24s

was valid

...  am I missing something here?  'cause surely this just doesn't occur to me, right?

#2

Code:
2013-08-23 04:55:24.964851 P2Pool: 17333 shares in chain (17337 verified/17337 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:24.964918  Local: 25145MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.2% (4-9%) Expected time to share: 55.2 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:24.964959  Shares: 13 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~15.4% (4-43%) Efficiency: ~96.6% (65-110%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:24.965001  Pool: 4906GH/s Stale rate: 12.4% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:26.100285 Skipping from block 4606457e65a683e775d65e680a76363138cfb7ef84bdd7b058 to block 1efa9abb1c86c9fc9053385b7af0fef3494891283288383cea!
2013-08-23 04:55:26.105455 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.108751 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.113014 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.116206 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.120136 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19457.980945 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.587415 GOT SHARE! 1NWRyGxCTCfTtKgL6qB4f3pU3qKKtmppHT a6dd6d67 prev bfa5e0b6 age 92.27s DEAD ON ARRIVAL
2013-08-23 04:55:26.630659 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.633545 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.636782 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.639647 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:26.643405 New work for worker! Difficulty: 8.615332 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.000000 BTC including 0 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:27.967688 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:27.967739  Local: 25001MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.5% (4-9%) Expected time to share: 55.5 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:27.967759  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:27.967780  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:28.377111 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:28.381046 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:28.385844 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:28.774942 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:28.779941 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.366393 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:30.970451 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:30.970530  Local: 24972MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (5-10%) Expected time to share: 55.5 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:30.970557  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:30.970601  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:31.100588 New work for worker! Difficulty: 7.312653 Share difficulty: 19464.241897 Total block value: 25.004000 BTC including 7 transactions
2013-08-23 04:55:32.311022 Peer sent entire transaction 82f4eb99186b6ff964604a37f88cc46d784f4050b0ffcd1897929b1d86903b33 that was already received
2013-08-23 04:55:42.980109 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:42.980192  Local: 25273MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 54.9 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:42.980227  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:42.980282  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:45.982896 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:45.982983  Local: 25239MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 55.0 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:45.983009  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:45.983052  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:48.985199 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:48.985260  Local: 25152MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (5-10%) Expected time to share: 55.1 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:48.985280  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:48.985309  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:51.987879 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:51.987965  Local: 25311MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 54.8 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:51.987991  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:51.988035  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:55:54.990546 P2Pool: 17334 shares in chain (17338 verified/17338 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:55:54.990617  Local: 25320MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.8% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 54.8 minutes
2013-08-23 04:55:54.990661  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:55:54.990688  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:56:07.004644 P2Pool: 17332 shares in chain (17336 verified/17336 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:56:07.004713  Local: 25434MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~6.7% (4-10%) Expected time to share: 54.5 minutes
2013-08-23 04:56:07.004733  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~14.3% (4-40%) Efficiency: ~97.1% (68-109%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:56:07.004754  Pool: 4878GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.4 hours
2013-08-23 04:56:08.622982 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:08.626644 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:08.630166 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:08.635809 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:08.640667 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.651428 Share difficulty: 19306.660433 Total block value: 25.004500 BTC including 8 transactions
2013-08-23 04:56:10.032628 P2Pool: 17333 shares in chain (17337 verified/17337 total) Peers: 58 (18 incoming)
2013-08-23 04:56:10.032705  Local: 25549MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~7.1% (5-10%) Expected time to share: 54.3 minutes
2013-08-23 04:56:10.032741  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~21.4% (7-48%) Efficiency: ~89.0% (59-105%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 04:56:10.032781  Pool: 4794GH/s Stale rate: 11.8% Expected time to block: 12.6 hours

the cool thing about this one is that this is the share in front:

Fri Aug 23 2013 04:53:54 GMT-0500

this is the one after that:

Fri Aug 23 2013 04:56:00 GMT-0500     (yah, over 2 minutes later)

04:55:26.587415 GOT SHARE! 1NWRyGxCTCfTtKgL6qB4f3pU3qKKtmppHT a6dd6d67 prev bfa5e0b6 age 92.27s DEAD ON ARRIVAL

shouldn't have been DOA, since my client had recognized a new block and created a new one with 0 transactions.  it doesn't even count it as DOA until 04:56:10  (note the share increment +1 from 04:55:58 to 04:56:00, but no message, then the second work at 04:56:08 it became 'dead')

again, was during a block change,  the prior share is Previous block: 000000000000004606457e65a683e775d65e680a76363138cfb7ef84bdd7b058, the others after are Previous block: 000000000000001efa9abb1c86c9fc9053385b7af0fef3494891283288383cea, that is including the "dead" share, a6dd6d67 (it was on the correct block, the 92.27s is curious)

i suspect the fact that it was valid is why i didn't get any of that punishing share spam from the previous one

Oh, sweet... here's a 3rd one that just happened while I was editing message about the previous:

Code:
2013-08-23 05:47:23.274095 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:23.308177 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.317422 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.326641 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.335845 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.348955 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.064800 BTC including 91 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.393725 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.397599 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.401849 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.487164 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:23.590376 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.908095 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:24.229396 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:24.231973 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:25.525733 P2Pool: 17358 shares in chain (17363 verified/17363 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:25.525808  Local: 25999MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.6% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:25.525842  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~21.4% (7-48%) Efficiency: ~84.5% (56-100%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:25.525885  Pool: 5977GH/s Stale rate: 7.0% Expected time to block: 10.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:26.351018 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.389662 Share difficulty: 23917.302490 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:28.528032 P2Pool: 17358 shares in chain (17363 verified/17363 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:28.528106  Local: 25972MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.8% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:28.528140  Shares: 14 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~21.4% (7-48%) Efficiency: ~84.5% (56-100%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:28.528183  Pool: 5977GH/s Stale rate: 7.0% Expected time to block: 10.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:29.241004 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:29.243525 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(2f54c6db7e99a0a299f2d84297c74f537415233fade7983fbe) < height(3ae3f8f040af83e9c764dde4550998e45c0184d3b5f814c633) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 834d9d07 to 92cf9c15!
2013-08-23 05:47:29.553604 GOT SHARE! 1NWRyGxCTCfTtKgL6qB4f3pU3qKKtmppHT e1eb9751 prev 834d9d07 age 28.91s DEAD ON ARRIVAL
2013-08-23 05:47:29.600756 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:29.603800 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:29.606790 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:29.610935 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:29.615148 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.363605 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.002000 BTC including 3 transactions
2013-08-23 05:47:31.530876 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:31.530952  Local: 26053MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:31.530984  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:31.531028  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:34.533769 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:34.533840  Local: 25956MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.5% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:34.533874  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:34.533912  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:37.535969 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:37.536024  Local: 25925MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.4% (7-13%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:37.536051  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:37.536072  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:39.648491 Peer sent entire transaction 644b409d119e52422477e5bdb1d43a171fbbc0237fbd79d279cc5fc52b0163cd that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:40.538790 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:40.538861  Local: 25895MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.2% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:40.538903  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:40.538947  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:40.862985 Peer sent entire transaction ba2ce537f4fea66b84d455df9972a50d3370812b5fefdae8e3115b3fbd032326 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:40.876972 Peer sent entire transaction ba2ce537f4fea66b84d455df9972a50d3370812b5fefdae8e3115b3fbd032326 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:40.925990 Peer sent entire transaction 159c83693cebfa58d39a141bcf1a5c16be497ffbb68483398b9b5b34b860ec5b that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:41.676211 Peer sent entire transaction 7e1dd3924e6da5ec31659375d90621ee264a4b232907eb93164c39743a311498 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:43.541064 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:43.541142  Local: 25698MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:43.541214  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:43.541253  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:43.831815 Peer sent entire transaction b0b6ff2cb57017f761b817d793ec3001471786071f7f05b46070b1d16d823f77 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:45.515048 Peer sent entire transaction d6aa6756f37c7485cfb50ea3d373b2b1803480affb0708dc9f6599a1a4615da1 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:45.904462 Peer sent entire transaction e1dccb3f703e064b51045945fb24aa76db88452149cad4cdcbeabfb4347138f0 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:46.544110 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:46.544199  Local: 25755MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:46.544227  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:46.544275  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:47.741478 Peer sent entire transaction 6fca78b7962e6a76502a722e1607f637a3da7fe2e37eb9990b097dd51d4bf5e9 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:49.546956 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:49.547031  Local: 25717MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:49.547063  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:49.547107  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:49.930791 Peer sent entire transaction e1dccb3f703e064b51045945fb24aa76db88452149cad4cdcbeabfb4347138f0 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:52.549272 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17364 verified/17364 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:52.549335  Local: 25725MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:52.549355  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:52.549378  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:54.722683 Peer sent entire transaction a14cbacc0c47e700f3ddc089ed9f629da746bc8e62eecfdfd78d82ac3ccb6285 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:55.552022 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17365 verified/17365 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:55.552106  Local: 25736MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.3% (7-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:55.552132  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:55.552176  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:57.157035 Peer sent entire transaction 0077f8109891319f6c3b4019c70457f8b8fd460a960c305c24b4773d6c1488ad that was already received
2013-08-23 05:47:58.554197 P2Pool: 17360 shares in chain (17365 verified/17365 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:47:58.554261  Local: 25789MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~9.0% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:58.554281  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:47:58.554303  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:47:58.685818 Peer sent entire transaction a14cbacc0c47e700f3ddc089ed9f629da746bc8e62eecfdfd78d82ac3ccb6285 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:01.557008 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:01.557065  Local: 25875MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.9% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:01.557084  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:01.557106  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:04.559689 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:04.559757  Local: 26006MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.9% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:04.559782  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:04.559809  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:07.561893 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:07.561949  Local: 26041MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.9% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:07.561969  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:07.561991  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:10.564614 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:10.564676  Local: 26116MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.8% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:10.564697  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:10.564720  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:13.566714 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:13.566771  Local: 26145MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.8% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:13.566800  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:13.566832  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:16.569505 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:16.569567  Local: 26191MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.8% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:16.569587  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:16.569609  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:19.470123 Peer sent entire transaction 2d7fbbf7ea7d0dd62027c820eff677a681f68e213e8adccf98931f2932cfa846 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:19.572157 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:19.572207  Local: 26180MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:19.572248  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:19.572296  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:19.577930 Peer sent entire transaction 2d7fbbf7ea7d0dd62027c820eff677a681f68e213e8adccf98931f2932cfa846 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:22.574409 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:22.574484  Local: 26234MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:22.574523  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:22.574552  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:25.577315 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:25.577394  Local: 26152MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:25.577420  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:25.577464  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:28.579532 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:28.579582  Local: 26293MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:28.579601  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:28.579622  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:31.582265 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:31.582326  Local: 26356MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:31.582346  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:31.582368  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:34.584942 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:34.585014  Local: 26253MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:34.585047  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:34.585078  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:37.587163 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:37.587214  Local: 26349MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:37.587233  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:37.587260  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:39.713241 Peer sent entire transaction 3b3ade36d4c9fd9ed356784917f04ce7bc847dafaad16a3ddde68cde721fe9f4 that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:40.589933 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:40.590000  Local: 26321MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:40.590019  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:40.590040  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:43.592039 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:43.592096  Local: 26329MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.4% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:43.592115  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:43.592145  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:46.594935 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:46.594993  Local: 26123MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:46.595012  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:46.595035  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:49.597592 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:49.597678  Local: 26314MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:49.597704  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:49.597749  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:52.599827 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:52.599885  Local: 26331MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:52.599905  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:52.599926  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:55.602606 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:55.602687  Local: 26307MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-11%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:55.602713  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:55.602756  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:56.843399 Peer sent entire transaction 596fb358c590e5515d2dc13b54a4b0cf9a31641ff18586c9c407b037f0bb6e4e that was already received
2013-08-23 05:48:58.604817 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:48:58.604877  Local: 26197MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:48:58.604896  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:48:58.604918  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:49:01.607618 P2Pool: 17338 shares in chain (17342 verified/17342 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:49:01.607682  Local: 26164MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.5% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:49:01.607713  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 2 dead) Stale rate: ~20.0% (7-46%) Efficiency: ~86.7% (59-101%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:49:01.607745  Pool: 5890GH/s Stale rate: 7.7% Expected time to block: 10.3 hours
2013-08-23 05:49:02.242663 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.261772 Share difficulty: 23794.865067 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.724427 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.730327 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.734859 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.739069 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:02.744210 New work for worker! Difficulty: 6.214171 Share difficulty: 23976.049974 Total block value: 25.013900 BTC including 20 transactions
2013-08-23 05:49:04.610290 P2Pool: 17339 shares in chain (17343 verified/17343 total) Peers: 60 (19 incoming)
2013-08-23 05:49:04.610367  Local: 26181MH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~8.9% (6-12%) Expected time to share: 1.1 hours
2013-08-23 05:49:04.610404  Shares: 15 (1 orphan, 3 dead) Stale rate: ~26.7% (10-52%) Efficiency: ~78.8% (51-96%) Current payout: 0.0165 BTC
2013-08-23 05:49:04.610448  Pool: 5978GH/s Stale rate: 7.0% Expected time to block: 10.1 hours

Though ^^ is actually legit.  Well, sort of... except for the fact that share 834d9d07 is here:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000000c6ddbfff20f48d642a0f2b00e1b57bfb5e0da6638843834d9d07

and didn't get jumped at all

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August 23, 2013, 07:53:05 AM
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I've always had those, never occurred to me that there was something wrong.  Shocked  I though it was just part of the way nodes talked to each other.
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I've always had those, never occurred to me that there was something wrong.  Shocked  I though it was just part of the way nodes talked to each other.

Well, something else that's interesting is that;

2013-08-23 02:36:38.222282 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! height(156670399e288c80f42d97518c063cc8763742d5fcec2c0141) < height(19197727fe571665ea6fdb4ee72ca33f95e997b1ffbc6b0d32) or 19548732 != 19548732'! Jumping from 35417e20 to 15364f72!

if you go back a few shares, a parent share is 35417e20, not 15364f72.  so some node built off of 35417e20, while mine was trying to jump to something else.

i guess we've come to the conclusion that the share right before a block "almost always" gets orphaned (35417e20 didn't), and a share directly after a block has a good chance of getting orphaned (i.e. if I had built off of 15364f72, instead of 35417e20)
 
so i guess after taking everyone's hashrate into consideration, you'd want to get your getblocktemplate slow enough to not cause problems.  the largest node is private, but you can see on http://p2pool-nodes.info/ that one at 740ghash is *10 seconds behind

ed:  slightly over 2/3rds of all my orphans are within 30 seconds of a block solve,  and, yes, i have logs for this

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August 23, 2013, 08:09:47 AM
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Mathematically, that would be the same as manually boosting the difficulty of the shares returned to the network. You'll get paid less often (large variance), but your payouts will be larger. This features is already built-in.
I don't think so.  The point is that some people wouldn't be paid when a block is found, who previously would have been. 
Which, for a low rate, low payout miner is what increasing your difficulty will accomplish.  When you are averaging near just a few shares in the window there will be some blocks when you just don't have any shares in the window. If you up the difficulty there will be more (of course, on average you'll still end up with a fair payout, just higher variance with bigger quanta).  Since the difficulty can be set dynamically you could even mine higher diff while you had no shares in the window... and lower when you did. (I think on LTC it does this by default).
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i changed the whole punishing share code,  curious as to how it'll work now.   i'm guessing better, since it seems some people have super high latency times

hmm, if i can see any examples.  looks like stratum messed up, always use long poll

much better, i think.  it gives you all the possible routes:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000002889fc03f2c9739b7ea6e43eb45ae9dba97fef40bc0511923f5ea

this way you aren't cornholed onto a path that'll be orphaned

(so essentially you wont be penalized for being 20 seconds faster than person X with hundreds of ghash)

btw, i sent all the people that were on the pool when i took it down the equivalent to what the bitcoin mining calculator says you'd make in a day w/ the hash rates you were getting on my pool  Grin

eh, one more edit, here's a great example:

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#00000000000176b9ab070f7f71cf4e3a7f83211d6341bf08f85e65f33c77553c

if you were 'punishing' shares, then you would have followed the f0ec7e42 route, which (despite being the "proper" route), was orphaned by

http://www.nogleg.com:9332/static/share.html#000000000000470ee8f03b070dfce951c8dd5ed2ed65eee5c2c4016416d5803f

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August 23, 2013, 06:13:14 PM
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Which, for a low rate, low payout miner is what increasing your difficulty will accomplish.  When you are averaging near just a few shares in the window there will be some blocks when you just don't have any shares in the window. If you up the difficulty there will be more (of course, on average you'll still end up with a fair payout, just higher variance with bigger quanta).  Since the difficulty can be set dynamically you could even mine higher diff while you had no shares in the window... and lower when you did. (I think on LTC it does this by default).

That's something I don't get: how voluntarily increasing your difficulty will help you.

Wouldn't you want to claim as many shares as possible, even if they are small amounts?

Since each share you find increases your payout allocation within p2pool's 8640-share window, it should always be beneficial to add more shares, right?

It seems to me that all you would be doing by increasing your difficulty would be to forfeit some potential earnings from weak shares, by throwing those shares away instead of submitting them to the sharechain, unless there's something I'm missing.

Maybe if p2pool is CPU limited, or you're running remote miners that are network-limited between them and p2pool, and you have so many miners that you're constantly spamming p2pool with 1-difficulty shares, that might make a difference.  In that case, wouldn't it just be better to voluntarily increase your difficulty to something that is still well below the minimum required for a valid share (perhaps a difficulty of 1000 or so), which would cut down traffic dramatically from your miners, but still allow you to claim every share in the sharechain that you are entitled to?  Or, am I missing something here?

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Which, for a low rate, low payout miner is what increasing your difficulty will accomplish.  When you are averaging near just a few shares in the window there will be some blocks when you just don't have any shares in the window. If you up the difficulty there will be more (of course, on average you'll still end up with a fair payout, just higher variance with bigger quanta).  Since the difficulty can be set dynamically you could even mine higher diff while you had no shares in the window... and lower when you did. (I think on LTC it does this by default).

That's something I don't get: how voluntarily increasing your difficulty will help you.

Wouldn't you want to claim as many shares as possible, even if they are small amounts?

Since each share you find increases your payout allocation within p2pool's 8640-share window, it should always be beneficial to add more shares, right?

It seems to me that all you would be doing by increasing your difficulty would be to forfeit some potential earnings from weak shares, by throwing those shares away instead of submitting them to the sharechain, unless there's something I'm missing.

Maybe if p2pool is CPU limited, or you're running remote miners that are network-limited between them and p2pool, and you have so many miners that you're constantly spamming p2pool with 1-difficulty shares, that might make a difference.  In that case, wouldn't it just be better to voluntarily increase your difficulty to something that is still well below the minimum required for a valid share (perhaps a difficulty of 1000 or so), which would cut down traffic dramatically from your miners, but still allow you to claim every share in the sharechain that you are entitled to?  Or, am I missing something here?

Josh


You will get paid more for the higher difficulty shares.  It will reduce your bandwidth usage if you are putting out a lot of hash power.

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That's something I don't get: how voluntarily increasing your difficulty will help you.

Wouldn't you want to claim as many shares as possible, even if they are small amounts?

Since each share you find increases your payout allocation within p2pool's 8640-share window, it should always be beneficial to add more shares, right?

Think of the difficulty as the number of difficulty 1 shares you are submitting at the same time, if that helps. If someone submits 10 shares of difficulty 2, and someone else submits a single share of difficulty 20, they have the same score. They have both submitted 20 difficulty 1 shares worth of work.

The reason for increasing the difficulty on the miner's side is to reduce the bandwidth being used by reporting shares and server load on the pool. It won't hurt your income at all. A large enough ASIC could submit thousands of difficulty 1 shares per minute which is a huge waste of resources.

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That's something I don't get: how voluntarily increasing your difficulty will help you.

Wouldn't you want to claim as many shares as possible, even if they are small amounts?


You will get paid more for the higher difficulty shares.  It will reduce your bandwidth usage if you are putting out a lot of hash power.

In other words, the "value" of a share is not fixed.  It's based on the target difficulty for that share relative to the target difficulties of all the other shares that make up that block.  In other words, if you opt-in to a difficulty that is 2x as high, you get paid 2x as much for that share.  

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It seems to me that all you would be doing by increasing your difficulty would be to forfeit some potential earnings from weak shares, by throwing those shares away instead of submitting them to the sharechain, unless there's something I'm missing.

You have to decide what the target is.

For example, if you do 1 trillion hashes, you will get approx

25 difficulty 10 shares

250 difficulty 1 shares (includes the 25 difficulty 10 shares)

You have to decide in advance what your target is.  You can set it to anything you want, as long as it is higher than the minimum required.

If you set it to 10, then only the 25 difficulty 10 shares count, so you get 25 shares worth 10 each.

If you set it to 1, then the 250 difficulty 1 shares all count, so you get 250 shares worth 1 each.  The 25 difficulty 10 shares also count, but since you set them to difficulty 1, you can't claim a reward of 10.

In other words, the "value" of a share is not fixed.  It's based on the target difficulty for that share relative to the target difficulties of all the other shares that make up that block.  In other words, if you opt-in to a difficulty that is 2x as high, you get paid 2x as much for that share. 

Right, and you have to pick the target before you run the hash, so you can't change it afterwards.

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You have to decide what the target is.

For example, if you do 1 trillion hashes, you will get approx

25 difficulty 10 shares

250 difficulty 1 shares (includes the 25 difficulty 10 shares)

Interesting.  I thought p2pool already paid out on a prorated basis, based on how difficult your share was, regardless of what the target was?  If you just barely limp in over the minimum required difficulty, you get paid a small amount, but if you find a massively high difficulty share (such as a share that's good enough to become a real Bitcoin block) you get paid that much more.  You don't get paid the same amount per share, I have noticed.

Didn't know it took into account the ability to optionally choose a higher minimum required difficulty, and increased the payout ratio proportionally, to compensate you for your loss from all the little low shares that you've now chosen to throw away instead of submit.  What's the ratio that it uses?

Let's say I submit 6 shares, at these difficulties: 1, 1, 1, 1000, 1000, 1000.

That will pay me about 3003 difficulties worth of work.  Now, let's say I change my minimum difficulty to 500.  Instead of submitting 6 shares, I submit only 3 shares, at these difficulties: 1000, 1000, 1000.  This only pays me about 3000 difficulties worth of work, not 3003.  So I have lost a little income here.  In case there's something I'm missing.

Anybody have the exact formula?

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You have to decide what the target is.

For example, if you do 1 trillion hashes, you will get approx

25 difficulty 10 shares

250 difficulty 1 shares (includes the 25 difficulty 10 shares)

Interesting.  I thought p2pool already paid out on a prorated basis, based on how difficult your share was, regardless of what the target was?  If you just barely limp in over the minimum required difficulty, you get paid a small amount, but if you find a massively high difficulty share (such as a share that's good enough to become a real Bitcoin block) you get paid that much more.  You don't get paid the same amount per share, I have noticed.

Didn't know it took into account the ability to optionally choose a higher minimum required difficulty, and increased the payout ratio proportionally, to compensate you for your loss from all the little low shares that you've now chosen to throw away instead of submit.  What's the ratio that it uses?

Let's say I submit 6 shares, at these difficulties: 1, 1, 1, 1000, 1000, 1000.

That will pay me about 3003 difficulties worth of work.  Now, let's say I change my minimum difficulty to 500.  Instead of submitting 6 shares, I submit only 3 shares, at these difficulties: 1000, 1000, 1000.  This only pays me about 3000 difficulties worth of work, not 3003.  So I have lost a little income here.  In case there's something I'm missing.

Anybody have the exact formula?

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How "difficult" a share is depends only on its target. Any share mined around the same time will yield the same contribution to your payout. I say "around the same time", because the minimum difficulty changes to keep it at one share every thirty seconds, and that will affect a share's reward.

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Interesting.  I thought p2pool already paid out on a prorated basis, based on how difficult your share was, regardless of what the target was? 

No you set the difficulty in advance.  If you aim for a difficulty 1 share, but get a hash that is good enough for a difficulty 10 share, it still only counts as a difficulty 1 share.

When you get a share, it gets added to the share chain and when the next block is hit, you will get a share of that block's payout.

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Let's say I submit 6 shares, at these difficulties: 1, 1, 1, 1000, 1000, 1000.

That will pay me about 3003 difficulties worth of work.  Now, let's say I change my minimum difficulty to 500.  Instead of submitting 6 shares, I submit only 3 shares, at these difficulties: 1000, 1000, 1000.  This only pays me about 3000 difficulties worth of work, not 3003.  So I have lost a little income here.  In case there's something I'm missing.

If you set the difficulty target at 1, you will get around 1 share for every 4 billion hashes and each one will be worth 1 share.  However, some will have a hash that is low enough to be a valid difficulty 10 share. 

If you set the difficulty target to 10, you get 1 share for every 40 billion hashes, but each one of those shares would count for 10.

What happens with hashing is that you (in effect) pick a random number between 0 and a huge number (2 to the power of 256).  You need to get an result lower than the target.  A difficulty 10 share has a target that is 10 times lower than a difficulty 1 share.  This means you are 10 times less likely to hit it.

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