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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2032668 times)
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October 21, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
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@ Kano & ckolivas

Just got a reply in the Black Arrow thread that their new units have got you guys collaborating on the miner driver... I asked them (simply) whether they would be p2pool ready or not, but what with all the long poll and work flushing talk in this thread, would you care to shed any light on how p2pool capable the prospero will be from your perspective? (Black Arrow just answered the question by saying that they will be using Stratum protocol; a fat lot of good these things would be without it! 2 TH/s on getwork, um, yeah)
If you mean the minions?
He replied in my cgminer hardware design thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294499.msg3159041#msg3159041
(and yes I have PMed back and forth with him about the design)

Encouraging? Or, does it at least sound as if any shortcomings in the driver implementation can be fixed by you guys subsequent to you receiving a Minion/Prospero? (I understand the chips are called Minions and the units are called Prosperos). Assuming they send you a sample 100 GH/s at the least...  Undecided

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October 21, 2013, 10:08:54 PM
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@ Kano & ckolivas

Just got a reply in the Black Arrow thread that their new units have got you guys collaborating on the miner driver... I asked them (simply) whether they would be p2pool ready or not, but what with all the long poll and work flushing talk in this thread, would you care to shed any light on how p2pool capable the prospero will be from your perspective? (Black Arrow just answered the question by saying that they will be using Stratum protocol; a fat lot of good these things would be without it! 2 TH/s on getwork, um, yeah)
If you mean the minions?
He replied in my cgminer hardware design thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294499.msg3159041#msg3159041
(and yes I have PMed back and forth with him about the design)

Encouraging? Or, does it at least sound as if any shortcomings in the driver implementation can be fixed by you guys subsequent to you receiving a Minion/Prospero? (I understand the chips are called Minions and the units are called Prosperos). Assuming they send you a sample 100 GH/s at the least...  Undecided
At this point in the process I have no concerns about the design.

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October 22, 2013, 05:19:16 PM
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Yeah, I agree that it'd be nice to see Jupiters able to hash properly on P2Pool.

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October 22, 2013, 10:02:58 PM
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Yeah, I agree that it'd be nice to see Jupiters able to hash properly on P2Pool.
Th 10s LP delay makes p2pool mining with KFC a bad move until they work around that.

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October 22, 2013, 10:50:08 PM
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Yeah, I agree that it'd be nice to see Jupiters able to hash properly on P2Pool.
Th 10s LP delay makes p2pool mining with KFC a bad move until they work around that.

It's 30s now, but your point is still valid.

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October 22, 2013, 10:54:12 PM
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Yeah, I agree that it'd be nice to see Jupiters able to hash properly on P2Pool.
Th 10s LP delay makes p2pool mining with KFC a bad move until they work around that.

It's 30s now, but your point is still valid.
I'm referring to the KFC 10s LP delay Tongue
(Yeah ain't that scary that they did that!)

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October 23, 2013, 03:12:33 AM
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Well, I'm coming back to the "they work with other pools". 

I've donated to p2pool plenty - I left the author donation on, and I even sent BTC - but nothing has been done in ages.  p2pool really is becoming a still-birth. It's not 2012, people aren't mining with GPUs any more.
 
I know I'm only a low-scale miner (30GH, soon 50GH), but I'm not using p2pool because it doesn't work with my hardware, even when I mine to p2pool through a proxy.  OK, it's only 30GH, but if I'm giving up on the pool, what are the chances of new users going to the bother of setting up a machine, only to find it doesn't work?  Nil.

p2pool's continued EXISTENCE relies on it being able to cope with the current and future ASIC miners, no matter what retarded firmware on them does. 

2 x 60GH/s miners here. Seems pretty good to me so far. What's the problem?

2013-10-22 23:08:48.262337 P2Pool: 17382 shares in chain (17386 verified/17386 total) Peers: 9 (3 incoming)
2013-10-22 23:08:48.262503  Local: 126GH/s in last 10.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~2.8% (1-5%) Expected time to share: 59.7 minutes
2013-10-22 23:08:48.262634  Shares: 32 (3 orphan, 1 dead) Stale rate: ~12.5% (4-29%) Efficiency: ~107.9% (88-118%) Current payout: 0.1353 BTC
2013-10-22 23:08:48.262764  Pool: 22105GH/s Stale rate: 18.9% Expected time to block: 14.5 hours
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October 23, 2013, 03:25:03 AM
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Hello all,

I'm new to p2pool and one thing I miss from previous pools is an email notification when I get a payout.

Anyone know if this will work?

Code:
bitcoind -walletnotify="/path/to/notify_script.sh %s"

Code:
#!/bin/sh
#notify_script.sh
#snarfs the transaction passed in from bitcoind and emails the generated amount

amount=`bitcoind gettransaction $1 | grep -A 12 generated | grep amount | awk '{print $3}'`

if [ -n "$amount" ]
then
  echo "Mined $amount" | mail -s "Yay! Mined new block on p2pool" my@email.addy
fi

Edit: nevermind...answered my own question just now! For those interested it does work.
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October 23, 2013, 10:52:02 PM
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Wow.

The newest firmware from KnC (0.97) makes their miners work FLAWLESSLY with p2pool!  The difference is staggering.  Before p2pool was literally unusable with my Saturn - but now I am getting close to max hashrate Cheesy

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October 24, 2013, 02:34:41 AM
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Wow.

The newest firmware from KnC (0.97) makes their miners work FLAWLESSLY with p2pool!  The difference is staggering.  Before p2pool was literally unusable with my Saturn - but now I am getting close to max hashrate Cheesy


I wouldn't say flawlessly...but it does look much better.  I'll run 24 hrs and post results.

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October 24, 2013, 10:24:16 AM
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Wow.

The newest firmware from KnC (0.97) makes their miners work FLAWLESSLY with p2pool!  The difference is staggering.  Before p2pool was literally unusable with my Saturn - but now I am getting close to max hashrate Cheesy


I wouldn't say flawlessly...but it does look much better.  I'll run 24 hrs and post results.

Yeah, after a few hours of letting it run, I'd agree that it's not flawless - but it is way, way better than it was.

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October 25, 2013, 03:34:12 AM
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Here is Jupiter with .97.  Compare to here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.msg3307821#msg3307821










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October 25, 2013, 05:35:58 AM
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What a headache. First the servers crashed, then the miners crashed, then the power went out. But finally, finally got my servers up and running - YAY. Now I just need to get the rest of the miners up and functional.

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October 25, 2013, 07:39:01 AM
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Is it also run 440GH/s on "normal" pools? Looks like flushwork takes like 1 sec

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October 25, 2013, 11:27:35 AM
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Wholy cowpie batman, I stop mining 6 months ago, and come back and find that I can't even make it on the board.  
(dual gpu @ 130mh)

Oh well, now I just start my miners and use them as a heater when I need heat in my room.


Looks like the bitcoin network is going to get much smaller over time, as more and more hashers can't make the board.
This is a VERY BAD THING.  
This means that the security of the network is reduced, and is susceptible to shutdown using legal pressure on the few miners that are left.
Bitcoins strength was that it has so many hashers, the idea that any government could take down the hashers was impossible.
The death of fiat using the method of death by 1,000,000 cuts, now seems like its not going to happen.
As ROI disappears, only hashers left will be behemoths.
This implys that the entire network should implement a NODE policy (rewards for just running a hasher of any rate)
Even max rewards no matter who runs bigger hash.
(this would create hashers that just want the fame of being a large hasher(bragging rights) AND keep all the little nodes running.
Similar to how torrents work.  They work not because a single user is pushing gigabits, but because all users are pushing megabits(times 1,000)
If a ratio policy was implemented into torrents, the idea would have already failed(like the old days of ftps)

The value isn't in the nodes hash rate, but the fact that they are yet another node doing the relay race.
Rewards for running any hasher should have been implemented into the design to encourage everyone to stay in.

I don't really know, but I DO know that the number of participating hashers(regardless of hash rate) makes it safer for everyone.
Really, who cares who hashes more, if they are a single point of failure, it completely throws the model out the window.
Bitcoin2.0 needs to start now before the entire network hashes its self out of existence.

I understand that the bitcoin generated isn't worth the POWER the gpus use, but what if someone wants to generate SOMETHING?
(even very small returns?)

  If you can't generate a single share, you can't get on the list, so....
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October 25, 2013, 12:51:16 PM
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I understand that the bitcoin generated isn't worth the POWER the gpus use, but what if someone wants to generate SOMETHING?
(even very small returns?)

My GPUs are still running strong.  They find a share every few days and earn a little dust.

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October 25, 2013, 01:06:08 PM
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You must be pushin much more hash.  At 130mh, I ran for 5 days and saw nothing.   I couldn't even get on the board due to no share.
I didn't change any settings from before, I have all updated soft....

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October 25, 2013, 01:12:13 PM
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You must be pushin much more hash.  At 130mh, I ran for 5 days and saw nothing.   I couldn't even get on the board due to no share.

130MH is pointless with current difficulty.   All you're doing is making heat and noise, and sucking power.

With 130MH you'd be better off mining one of the altcoins like Litecoin, or PPCoin.
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October 25, 2013, 01:58:01 PM
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Is it also run 440GH/s on "normal" pools? Looks like flushwork takes like 1 sec

No.  480-510GH/s.

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October 25, 2013, 02:05:59 PM
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So 10-15% loss anyway :/

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