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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2030309 times)
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August 02, 2013, 07:48:25 PM
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Wouldn't an increase in dead shares from high bitcoind getblocktemplate latency only occur after a new block is found?  (I guess the 'obvious' correlation being that if one of those dead shares is a block, then it'll probably be orphaned)

I'd think most dead share problems are latency related...  some possibly from hardware (maybe a crappy switch, router, wireless extender, or something)..   but I didn't get many dead shares at 185ms latency even with the 10s shares or w/e, so even less now.  locally I'll get about 0.5% DOA, to server it's 2-4% (unless it's being DDoS'ed)

oh, i did a symlink to the log file again at nogleg.com/log, times are in US CST (UTC−05:00)...  nothing private (like miner IPs) is shown there anyway.  so if you ever wanted to see what the p2pool log looks like, there you go.  it gets cleaned fairly often

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August 05, 2013, 12:20:46 AM
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Adding BTCMiners with a twist

Hostname: BTCMiners.net
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Username: BitcoinAddress+Difficulty (Difficulty is usually between 2 through 32)
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Our pool is a normal P2Pool node however we have a fun addition to it!  Use your forum name as your username+difficulty, once a block is found and that address is paid out, you will be thrown into a lottery of other miners to win the POOL'S pot it made during it's last round.  100MH/s? 50GH/s? The more hashing we have the bigger the pot!  If the pool wins the round share it is applied to the second bonus, the monthly round bonus! (The pool's 2% fee is included in the monthly round share to encourage use of the bonus program! )

In addition to the round share bonus, there will be a monthly bonus!

For each round share bonus you're entered into, you'll gain +1 extra entry per round share towards the monthly round bonus.  The pool will keep 10% of the monthly round bonus to continue pool efforts.

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August 05, 2013, 06:19:15 AM
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Adding BTCMiners with a twist

Hostname: BTCMiners.net
Port: 9332
Username: BitcoinAddress+Difficulty (Difficulty is usually between 2 through 32)
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Our pool is a normal P2Pool node however we have a fun addition to it!  Use your forum name as your username+difficulty, once a block is found and that address is paid out, you will be thrown into a lottery of other miners to win the POOL'S pot it made during it's last round.  100MH/s? 50GH/s? The more hashing we have the bigger the pot!  If the pool wins the round share it is applied to the second bonus, the monthly round bonus!

In addition to the round share bonus, there will be a monthly bonus!

For each round share bonus you're entered into, you'll gain +1 extra entry per round share towards the monthly round bonus.  The pool will keep 10% of the monthly round bonus to continue pool efforts.
also his fee is set to 2%, stay away as usual. run your own node...

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August 05, 2013, 06:46:44 AM
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How would you pay people who use a username? Oh they only get the contest.

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August 05, 2013, 11:04:15 AM
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Adding BTCMiners with a twist

Hostname: BTCMiners.net
Port: 9332
Username: BitcoinAddress+Difficulty (Difficulty is usually between 2 through 32)
Password: Anything


Our pool is a normal P2Pool node however we have a fun addition to it!  Use your forum name as your username+difficulty, once a block is found and that address is paid out, you will be thrown into a lottery of other miners to win the POOL'S pot it made during it's last round.  100MH/s? 50GH/s? The more hashing we have the bigger the pot!  If the pool wins the round share it is applied to the second bonus, the monthly round bonus!

In addition to the round share bonus, there will be a monthly bonus!

For each round share bonus you're entered into, you'll gain +1 extra entry per round share towards the monthly round bonus.  The pool will keep 10% of the monthly round bonus to continue pool efforts.
also his fee is set to 2%, stay away as usual. run your own node...
The 2% Fee is applied to the monthly bonus.  It's to encourage users to be apart of the contest.
The 2% Fee is now taken away so that normal miners can mine free of charge.

Stay away? You have equal share to win the pot.  But I suppose you're just into Bitcoins for the money to be made, not the fun to be had as well.

How would you pay people who use a username? Oh they only get the contest.

I'd message them via the forums for their BTC Address.  Yes, if you mine at my pool you either get 98% of what you mine (2% goes to the pool's monthly pot for bonuses). Or you can join the round share drawing and be entered however many times you're in the drawings throughout the month for the end of month pot.

People with less than 25GH/s should enjoy this sort of thing.  It's a HUGE possible payout depending on how many are mining.  I know with a Jalapeno you're lucky to get a few bucks a day, why not try to double or triple the odds?

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August 07, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
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I'm not too concerned yet so I figured I would post here instead of making a new thread. I've finally gotten around to setting up my p2pool node again, this time in linux. Been running my SC (60GH/s) on it for a few days now and have a 1% fee.

So, as expected, I get the payout to my address that I choose with my SC and it takes off 1% and that payout goes to the default p2pool address. Everything's shiny, right?

Well, a bit over 24-hours ago, the payout to my default address suddenly went from something like 1.5mbtc to 0BTC and has stayed there ever since. The address I use with my SC is working fine - two payouts since. But zero payout for the default address. So the fee is not working? That doesn't seem to be the issue. 1 hour after the payout to default address dropped to 0BTC, my friend started mining at my pool. He's hitting it with about 800MH/s. It's been over 24 hours and two payouts later and his payout graph is still 0BTC and he's not received anything to his wallet. I threw my SC on his address an hour ago for about 60 seconds then took it off. It didn't change his payout from 0. His address doesn't show up under the active users section of p2pool.info at the moment.

I am using 13.2 on xubuntu in a VM with bitcoind on the same machine. Nice low getblock latency and my efficiency is over 100%. I've tried restarting both bitcoind and the p2pool node. No change.

If this doesn't change by tomorrow, I'm going to start worrying. What are your thoughts on this?

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August 07, 2013, 12:12:38 AM
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He's hitting it with about 800MH/s.
At the current difficulty, he's not hitting anything with 800MH/s. Hell, he's not even grazing it which should explain why his payout is zero.

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August 07, 2013, 12:16:43 AM
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And your fee is by randomly taking shares, which might need more time to actually find one.

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August 07, 2013, 12:39:26 AM
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At 800mhash, you should expect to find one share every 24hrs or so...  then with a 1% fee, you'd expect to get credited with a share every 100 days

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August 07, 2013, 07:24:47 AM
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on that last block that p2pool got:

000000000000000105a6f2c8641caa61f9d678b3ddde4935fefbcae2984e71f7

wtf difficulty would that be?  like 400 million?

Dacentec, best deals for US dedicated servers. They regularly restock $20-$25 Opterons with 8-16GB RAM & 2x1-2TB HDD's (ofc, usually lots of other good stuff to choose from).  I did a Serverbear benchmark of one of my $20/mo Opteron (June last year), it's here.  Have had about a half dozen different servers with Dacentec, & none have failed to sustain at least 40MB/s (burst higher). My favorite is a 12-month rent-to-own ZT Systems 2XL5520 16GB 2x2TB SATA for $40/month (got lucky with the 'off-brand', haven't seen a RTO 2xL5520 for under $50/mo since -- at least for monthly contracts).  wholesaleinternet.com has some ancient 2-core intel CPUs @ $10/mo sometimes (I got an Intel Core 2 6300 @ 1.86GHz, with a 250GB HDD with 46000 hours on it, LOL. $20 @ Dacentec is much better, if you can grab one). joesdatacenter.com (same location as Wholesale Internet) also occasionally has specials (or if you don't want to wait, it has an AMD Opteron 170 @ $16/mo).
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August 07, 2013, 07:28:25 AM
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on that last block that p2pool got:

000000000000000105a6f2c8641caa61f9d678b3ddde4935fefbcae2984e71f7

wtf difficulty would that be?  like 400 million?

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>>> from p2pool.bitcoin import data
>>> data.target_to_difficulty(0x000000000000000105a6f2c8641caa61f9d678b3ddde4935fefbcae2984e71f7)/1e6
4202.124400192549

4202 million :3

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August 07, 2013, 08:21:31 AM
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on that last block that p2pool got:

000000000000000105a6f2c8641caa61f9d678b3ddde4935fefbcae2984e71f7

wtf difficulty would that be?  like 400 million?

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>>> from p2pool.bitcoin import data
>>> data.target_to_difficulty(0x000000000000000105a6f2c8641caa61f9d678b3ddde4935fefbcae2984e71f7)/1e6
4202.124400192549

4202 million :3

I solved block 244885 at 92.5M which I thought was pretty good!

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August 07, 2013, 09:14:46 AM
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Ok, so essentially p2pool's share difficulty has been increased since I'd last used p2pool, making variance for small miners too large? And the only reason I was getting the payouts for my fee before was because of the recent good luck?

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August 07, 2013, 09:46:51 AM
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on that last block that p2pool got:

000000000000000105a6f2c8641caa61f9d678b3ddde4935fefbcae2984e71f7

wtf difficulty would that be?  like 400 million?

Code:
>>> from p2pool.bitcoin import data
>>> data.target_to_difficulty(0x000000000000000105a6f2c8641caa61f9d678b3ddde4935fefbcae2984e71f7)/1e6
4202.124400192549

4202 million :3

oops, off by a 0

i knew it was insane  Grin

Dacentec, best deals for US dedicated servers. They regularly restock $20-$25 Opterons with 8-16GB RAM & 2x1-2TB HDD's (ofc, usually lots of other good stuff to choose from).  I did a Serverbear benchmark of one of my $20/mo Opteron (June last year), it's here.  Have had about a half dozen different servers with Dacentec, & none have failed to sustain at least 40MB/s (burst higher). My favorite is a 12-month rent-to-own ZT Systems 2XL5520 16GB 2x2TB SATA for $40/month (got lucky with the 'off-brand', haven't seen a RTO 2xL5520 for under $50/mo since -- at least for monthly contracts).  wholesaleinternet.com has some ancient 2-core intel CPUs @ $10/mo sometimes (I got an Intel Core 2 6300 @ 1.86GHz, with a 250GB HDD with 46000 hours on it, LOL. $20 @ Dacentec is much better, if you can grab one). joesdatacenter.com (same location as Wholesale Internet) also occasionally has specials (or if you don't want to wait, it has an AMD Opteron 170 @ $16/mo).
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August 07, 2013, 02:23:57 PM
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Ok, so essentially p2pool's share difficulty has been increased since I'd last used p2pool, making variance for small miners too large? And the only reason I was getting the payouts for my fee before was because of the recent good luck?

Yes. p2pool now has 4.2 TH/s instead of 400 GH/s and shares are now once per 30 seconds instead of 10 seconds, so the share difficulty is much much higher than it was a month or two ago.

Fees have always been luck-based.  They are awarded randomly, but average out to your percentage over the long term.

Mining, in general, is becoming pointless for small miners. We are fully in the age of ASICs, these days.  But for small miners that are satisfied to see a few satoshis trickle in every day, p2pool is not an optimal pool choice.  Pick some PPS pool that will pay you for diff 1 shares.

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August 07, 2013, 04:33:31 PM
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I'm doing a very small 2.5GH/s between my few remaining GPUs and the little ASIC USB miners. 

I run my own P2Pool node, and I got a lot more in 24 hours on P2Pool compared to BTCGuild.

I'm still trying to stabilise the machine, then I'm hoping a few folks will mine on my node.  It's only little (Celeron 847 dual 1.1GHz).  Tongue
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August 07, 2013, 06:44:50 PM
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Changed the setup of my pool.  It obviously was not a hit.

I did however, launch 3 new pools! One in San Francisco one in New York City and one in Amsterdam.  I did put a 0.25% Fee on there as running 4 nodes, does cost a bit of money.  

Let me know what y'all think? Smiley

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@btcminer do you share the data directory between the pool servers?
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August 07, 2013, 06:56:22 PM
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@btcminer do you share the data directory between the pool servers?

Yes, I made a quick compressed file so that everything would install quickly.

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Take this as constructive criticism, BTCMiner, please.

They're not a hit, because you still have terribly high latency, and poor efficiency.  Your nodes all seem to be reporting a different pool speed, too - they're all out by 0.5-1TH/s which I don't quite understand.

I think you need to address the big issues with your nodes before you expect anyone to mine on them. 
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