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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2028613 times)
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November 04, 2013, 06:46:10 AM
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I recently added 60 GH/s, so why would my reward suddenly go DOWN instead of up? Worst case, wouldn't it just stay level? o_O I did notice a bit of an increase in total p2pool hashrate, but I wouldn't expect such a big drop in my own payout based on how much it increased by. I did have a little downtime while I was setting up the new miner but said downtime was minimal. All my other stats read normally though. Efficiency is 101% and latency is < 0.1s. "Local rate" and "Local rate reflected in shares" match up with each other for the past 24 hours, as well as matching what I would expect for the combination of the miners I have.

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November 04, 2013, 07:23:25 AM
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hetzner network was screwed for about 15m, if anyone reads this that was mining on my pool or some other one located on hetzner network

oh, and luck over the last 3 days has been good if you include 266856 and onwards  Grin

5 blocks in 76 hours, estimated time is 14hr30m but that's with 32.9 thash, and the average over the last 76 hours is probably more like 29-30thash...  jaja

btw: whoever is using p2pool.org:9332 and paying 2% for 75% efficiency... stop!

Oh thanks.

I don't think your advice is working tho.

1.60TH/s (13% DOA) at this time.

When/if you ever get that hash rate you will see your efficiency drop also.

Does everyone on this forum always get jealous and have to attack everyone else?

It's ok man, some day you too will have miners, but attacking other people isn't going to work.



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November 04, 2013, 07:30:43 AM
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I recently added 60 GH/s, so why would my reward suddenly go DOWN instead of up? Worst case, wouldn't it just stay level? o_O I did notice a bit of an increase in total p2pool hashrate, but I wouldn't expect such a big drop in my own payout based on how much it increased by. I did have a little downtime while I was setting up the new miner but said downtime was minimal. All my other stats read normally though. Efficiency is 101% and latency is < 0.1s. "Local rate" and "Local rate reflected in shares" match up with each other for the past 24 hours, as well as matching what I would expect for the combination of the miners I have.

It will pretty much always go up and down over time.

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November 04, 2013, 07:35:28 AM
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hetzner network was screwed for about 15m, if anyone reads this that was mining on my pool or some other one located on hetzner network

oh, and luck over the last 3 days has been good if you include 266856 and onwards  Grin

5 blocks in 76 hours, estimated time is 14hr30m but that's with 32.9 thash, and the average over the last 76 hours is probably more like 29-30thash...  jaja

btw: whoever is using p2pool.org:9332 and paying 2% for 75% efficiency... stop!

Oh thanks.

I don't think your advice is working tho.

1.60TH/s (13% DOA) at this time.

When/if you ever get that hash rate you will see your efficiency drop also.

Does everyone on this forum always get jealous and have to attack everyone else?

It's ok man, some day you too will have miners, but attacking other people isn't going to work.




And another thing, how is your expected BTC in 24 hours increasing when you charge no fee?

Nothing to see here...
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November 04, 2013, 09:33:47 AM
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November 04, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
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hetzner network was screwed for about 15m, if anyone reads this that was mining on my pool or some other one located on hetzner network

oh, and luck over the last 3 days has been good if you include 266856 and onwards  Grin

5 blocks in 76 hours, estimated time is 14hr30m but that's with 32.9 thash, and the average over the last 76 hours is probably more like 29-30thash...  jaja

btw: whoever is using p2pool.org:9332 and paying 2% for 75% efficiency... stop!

Oh thanks.

I don't think your advice is working tho.

1.60TH/s (13% DOA) at this time.

When/if you ever get that hash rate you will see your efficiency drop also.

Does everyone on this forum always get jealous and have to attack everyone else?

It's ok man, some day you too will have miners, but attacking other people isn't going to work.




And another thing, how is your expected BTC in 24 hours increasing when you charge no fee?

you truly have no clue.  it's quite sad.

my advice isn't working?  huh?

i have been at 1.5thash before, see http://nogleg.com:9332/static/graphs.html?Week

here:

http://nogleg.com:9332/fee
http://p2pool.org:9332/fee

get a grip.  good job grabbing p2pool.org and preying on the dim, btw.  i see that you're up to 0.03 btc from fees yourself.

by the way, I charge one millions % in fees

that's a lot of monies.

ps: the only p2pool I've ever attacked is yours, and that's because it took you two weeks to upgrade to a p2pool client that supported the NewShare...  wasting all those poor souls hashes that happen to be at your site.  then again, I suppose you *did* have about a 1/1000 chance per day to solve a block.  now it's merely on principle

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November 04, 2013, 11:03:01 AM
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BTW, feel free to PM me if you ever decide that you want to increase that 75% efficiency

for example, 84.201.254.19:9332, used to have a 15% orphan rate

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November 04, 2013, 05:04:44 PM
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I will decrease the percentage then. Maybe 1.67%? That's a share every half hour.

don't know this part of the code well enough, but is the calculation per miner or per node? It's possible a large node may get >1.67% of the shares but be comprised of many small miners. I don't think it's too big of a deal, it would just encourage smaller miners to diversify and not all go on a single node.
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November 04, 2013, 07:21:12 PM
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I will decrease the percentage then. Maybe 1.67%? That's a share every half hour.

don't know this part of the code well enough, but is the calculation per miner or per node? It's possible a large node may get >1.67% of the shares but be comprised of many small miners. I don't think it's too big of a deal, it would just encourage smaller miners to diversify and not all go on a single node.

If it's like the rest of the code I suppose it should be by payment address. So if your miners all share the same payment address they will share the 1.67%.

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November 04, 2013, 08:56:17 PM
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One of our Jupiters is hashing well currently on P2Pool using the latest firmware.  We're going to leave it on there for twenty-four hours and if all is well put both on there.  Which should add ~1.1TH/s to the pool.

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November 04, 2013, 08:58:44 PM
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One of our Jupiters is hashing well currently on P2Pool using the latest firmware.  We're going to leave it on there for twenty-four hours and if all is well put both on there.  Which should add ~1.1TH/s to the pool.

Can you share your node address so we can see stats, and paste cgminer output from Jupiter? I am curious how you can say "it's hashing well" when AFAIK KNC firmware is still doing full stop for 2-3sec everytime when LP/work restart arrives, lol.
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November 04, 2013, 10:03:21 PM
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One of our Jupiters is hashing well currently on P2Pool using the latest firmware.  We're going to leave it on there for twenty-four hours and if all is well put both on there.  Which should add ~1.1TH/s to the pool.

Can you share your node address so we can see stats, and paste cgminer output from Jupiter? I am curious how you can say "it's hashing well" when AFAIK KNC firmware is still doing full stop for 2-3sec everytime when LP/work restart arrives, lol.

If it's 2s, that's less than 7% DOA, so still easy to have >100% efficiency

i'll add here that sometime tomorrow i'm going to increase the pool fee to 2%, as it makes no sense to run a public p2pool that i'm not even using at 0%.  then i suppose since nobody will use it at that point (it doesn't have the name p2pool.org, after all), I'll shut it & bitcoind down and save $80/mo on this buffalo server

Dacentec, best deals for US dedicated servers. They regularly restock $20-$25 Opterons with 8-16GB RAM & 2x1-2TB HDD's (ofc, usually lots of other good stuff to choose from).  I did a Serverbear benchmark of one of my $20/mo Opteron (June last year), it's here.  Have had about a half dozen different servers with Dacentec, & none have failed to sustain at least 40MB/s (burst higher). My favorite is a 12-month rent-to-own ZT Systems 2XL5520 16GB 2x2TB SATA for $40/month (got lucky with the 'off-brand', haven't seen a RTO 2xL5520 for under $50/mo since -- at least for monthly contracts).  wholesaleinternet.com has some ancient 2-core intel CPUs @ $10/mo sometimes (I got an Intel Core 2 6300 @ 1.86GHz, with a 250GB HDD with 46000 hours on it, LOL. $20 @ Dacentec is much better, if you can grab one). joesdatacenter.com (same location as Wholesale Internet) also occasionally has specials (or if you don't want to wait, it has an AMD Opteron 170 @ $16/mo).
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November 04, 2013, 11:34:20 PM
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I've been grateful for two people testing two KNC Mercury devices on my private p2pool node and the total node DOA varies between 0.8%-1.4% for nearly 2 days now. Pay outs are looking good.

Server is in Amsterdam with one of the Mercury miners in USA and one in UK.

Efficiency is at 106.8% atm as has been at 98% when I put a Saturn on p2pool, forgetting it had FW 0.96 on it so it threw up a dead straight away.

FW 0.98 seems a lot better than 0.96 (never tested with 0.97).

When I tested a Jupiter for an hour on 0.98 which has some bad cores (not very long I know) it threw up two orphans one after another.

I still need to test a Saturn for a while but will need to flash FW 0.98 onto it first.

If things go well and get better, should be about 1TH pointed at p2pool.

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November 05, 2013, 08:54:15 AM
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shut off early at 8:25am utc!  c u nogleg

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November 05, 2013, 10:01:43 AM
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I haven't used p2pool in a long time, are the shares suppose to increase or do I need to just wait longer?

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Local: 13644MH/s in last 3.0 minutes Local dead on arrival: ~0.8% (0-3%) Expected time to share: 13.2 hours
Shares: 0 (0 orphan, 0 dead) Stale rate: ??? Efficiency: ??? Current payout: 0.0000 BTC
Pool: 39203GH/s Stale rate: 18.4% Expected time to block: 11.9 hours

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November 05, 2013, 10:04:40 AM
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It is all in log. Your share ETA is ~13 hrs - it means you should find one share every ~13hrs.
But it can be 4 or 34 hrs too Tongue

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November 05, 2013, 10:08:15 AM
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So, I take it there really isn't a point for me to mine at P2Pool anymore until I gather more Gh/s?

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November 05, 2013, 10:20:56 AM
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So, I take it there really isn't a point for me to mine at P2Pool anymore until I gather more Gh/s?
Why not? Every share is valid up to 3 days or 3 blocks. It is not really matter you mine there or any other pool. Your payout will be always proportional to pool power and network power.
This what make P2pool better than other pools is lower fee (mostly 0-1%), full tx fee payout and ddos resistance (it it decentralized).

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November 05, 2013, 10:52:15 AM
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So, I take it there really isn't a point for me to mine at P2Pool anymore until I gather more Gh/s?

Can still mine, you'll still get something.  Your variance will be high though.  And it'll be higher after the next skyrocket difficulty increase due in about 6 hours.

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November 05, 2013, 10:53:55 AM
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I'll leave my stuff pointed @ p2pool just because of decentralization. Grin

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