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August 29, 2013, 09:44:44 PM
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I'll make 0.01 BTC in 24 hours Smiley

Ouch! That hurt small miners like me.

I feel your pain, i only have about 16 Gh/s. thes bad days are painfull.
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August 29, 2013, 09:52:59 PM
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already selling my asic miners..

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August 29, 2013, 09:58:15 PM
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I don't know for sure, but i suspect that difficulty numbers are powers of 2, except for 1, ie 1, 2, 4, 8, 16...
 5 is probably 4 in actuality. But I could be wrong, this is just a guess on my part. I'm sure someone who actually knows will correct me if i'm wrong. I get corrected a lot... Tongue

No. Smiley
65750060 for example is no power of 2.
Besides, 1 is a power of 2, its 2^0.

You are saying that current "Difficulty" is the same as pool difficulty? I guess i can see this, but then we are returning a lot of unusable numbers as proof of work.

I am not sure what you are trying to tell me.
Where should a difference between "pool difficulty" and "current difficulty" be? The pool has to relay a block hash fulfilling the current difficulty to the network in order to have it accepted as valid, so of course we are working on problems of the same difficulty as everybody else, no matter whether in a pool or not. And yes, of course we are returning a lot of unusable numbers - every hash not fulfilling difficulty is unusable. Of the millions of hashes your miner calculates per second only some are sent to the pool, to proof you are trying, but only the one share which "solves the block" is actually useful - all the others are just for distributing the coins based on hashing power.
If we'd all be honest, we could just drop all shares not matching diff 65m and tell the pool, how much computing power we are using. Smiley
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August 29, 2013, 10:27:44 PM
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I don't know for sure, but i suspect that difficulty numbers are powers of 2, except for 1, ie 1, 2, 4, 8, 16...
 5 is probably 4 in actuality. But I could be wrong, this is just a guess on my part. I'm sure someone who actually knows will correct me if i'm wrong. I get corrected a lot... Tongue

No. Smiley
65750060 for example is no power of 2.
Besides, 1 is a power of 2, its 2^0.

You are saying that current "Difficulty" is the same as pool difficulty? I guess i can see this, but then we are returning a lot of unusable numbers as proof of work.

I am not sure what you are trying to tell me.
Where should a difference between "pool difficulty" and "current difficulty" be? The pool has to relay a block hash fulfilling the current difficulty to the network in order to have it accepted as valid, so of course we are working on problems of the same difficulty as everybody else, no matter whether in a pool or not. And yes, of course we are returning a lot of unusable numbers - every hash not fulfilling difficulty is unusable. Of the millions of hashes your miner calculates per second only some are sent to the pool, to proof you are trying, but only the one share which "solves the block" is actually useful - all the others are just for distributing the coins based on hashing power.
If we'd all be honest, we could just drop all shares not matching diff 65m and tell the pool, how much computing power we are using. Smiley

I think Trongersoll was confusing the network mining difficulty with local share submission difficulty (manually set variable difficulty).

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August 29, 2013, 10:42:30 PM
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I don't know for sure, but i suspect that difficulty numbers are powers of 2, except for 1, ie 1, 2, 4, 8, 16...
 5 is probably 4 in actuality. But I could be wrong, this is just a guess on my part. I'm sure someone who actually knows will correct me if i'm wrong. I get corrected a lot... Tongue
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No. Smiley
65750060 for example is no power of 2.
Besides, 1 is a power of 2, its 2^0.

You are saying that current "Difficulty" is the same as pool difficulty? I guess i can see this, but then we are returning a lot of unusable numbers as proof of work.

I am not sure what you are trying to tell me.
Where should a difference between "pool difficulty" and "current difficulty" be? The pool has to relay a block hash fulfilling the current difficulty to the network in order to have it accepted as valid, so of course we are working on problems of the same difficulty as everybody else, no matter whether in a pool or not. And yes, of course we are returning a lot of unusable numbers - every hash not fulfilling difficulty is unusable. Of the millions of hashes your miner calculates per second only some are sent to the pool, to proof you are trying, but only the one share which "solves the block" is actually useful - all the others are just for distributing the coins based on hashing power.
If we'd all be honest, we could just drop all shares not matching diff 65m and tell the pool, how much computing power we are using. Smiley

I think Trongersoll was confusing the network mining difficulty with local share submission difficulty (manually set variable difficulty).
I 'm not confused we were talking about local share submission difficulty before i was corrected. I think. Smiley
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August 29, 2013, 10:58:45 PM
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I 'm not confused we were talking about local share submission difficulty before i was corrected. I think. Smiley

Ah, I read the post below yours but not actually your post. Sorry! I think it must be trasla confusing share submission difficulty with the network mining difficulty then?

As for your "powers of 2" thing,I think it's just that some pools have used 2^x as allowable values for manually set share submission difficulties.However any real positive number could be used.



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August 29, 2013, 11:06:53 PM
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I don't know about difficulty, but i'm balanced between two pools over the last 24 hours and the other pool is pulling 5 x the BTC. I am too far away to change it and messed up my port forwarding for ssh. so just have to wait it out and hope it gets better.
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August 29, 2013, 11:15:23 PM
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> already selling my asic miners..

Why, what you got, and how cheap you selling?

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August 30, 2013, 12:29:24 AM
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11:10:14

Sorry if this is a stupid question but why the slowdown lately?

It's the law of averages, has nothing to do with lately. If "good" luck is 120% one day, then it will adjust with less luck on other days.

Percentage of network needs to be maintained for "equal" payout.

exactly. look at the pools graph. We always have insane luck and insane bad luck....
and when we have the insane bad luck it is always blamed on DIFF as if suddenly the diff changes that day, then a few days later we have insane luck. which I think I will start blaming on DIFF to equal it all out
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August 30, 2013, 02:25:58 AM
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Some people are leaving for other pools.  Bleh.  Seems like more trouble than just waiting it out.
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August 30, 2013, 03:41:30 AM
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is the pool still maintained by slush or is he completely busy with Trezzor?














 

 

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August 30, 2013, 04:15:52 AM
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Pool Luck 23%?? How is that even possible?
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August 30, 2013, 05:48:12 AM
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August 30, 2013, 09:06:42 AM
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Ah well, we had some luck also last week....4 blocks in one hour for instance.

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August 30, 2013, 11:58:33 AM
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Even the 30 days stats goes down under...

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August 30, 2013, 01:19:13 PM
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is the pool still maintained by slush or is he completely busy with Trezzor?

I believe he does maintain the pool, but he said recently that his circumstances were not good.

Mix that in with Trezzor project and I think we could have the reason for his absence. His account at this point in time shows he has not logged in since 21st August.

I may have to move pools soon since I am unable to lower my user diff after testing some higher values. Website shows diff 1, proxy shows diff 5  Roll Eyes and no reply from Slush Undecided






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is the pool still maintained by slush or is he completely busy with Trezzor?

I believe he does maintain the pool, but he said recently that his circumstances were not good.

Mix that in with Trezzor project and I think we could have the reason for his absence. His account at this point in time shows he has not logged in since 21st August.

I may have to move pools soon since I am unable to lower my user diff after testing some higher values. Website shows diff 1, proxy shows diff 5  Roll Eyes and no reply from Slush Undecided



If I were you I would create a new worker, then switch the miner over to the new worker.  The new worker should default at a 1 difficulty.  Then you can delete, abandon (you can have as many as you want anyway), or have slush fix the old worker when he can...

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August 30, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
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Do NOT, and i repeat again...NOT delete your old worker until you have received your reward from it!!

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is the pool still maintained by slush or is he completely busy with Trezzor?

I believe he does maintain the pool, but he said recently that his circumstances were not good.

Mix that in with Trezzor project and I think we could have the reason for his absence. His account at this point in time shows he has not logged in since 21st August.

I may have to move pools soon since I am unable to lower my user diff after testing some higher values. Website shows diff 1, proxy shows diff 5  Roll Eyes and no reply from Slush Undecided



If I were you I would create a new worker, then switch the miner over to the new worker.  The new worker should default at a 1 difficulty.  Then you can delete, abandon (you can have as many as you want anyway), or have slush fix the old worker when he can...



I will give that a go, thanks!



Do NOT, and i repeat again...NOT delete your old worker until you have received your reward from it!!

Point noted. Do you speak from experience on this?





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