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August 12, 2013, 11:21:18 AM
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Strange - these seems valid to me

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19567 2013-08-12 01:45:33 0:54:32 24171354 47116 x 25.18850002 invalid
19566 2013-08-12 00:51:01 1:06:38 29404220 57684 x 25.10380000 invalid

http://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000041d5c80dd96c395ca42b8e5c07c0b15f2c28b87f7426929a67?site=slush
http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000001396dd3399bd95690845d5a0fe75be54545767358b8bf9aca2?site=slush

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August 12, 2013, 11:33:48 AM
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Anybody noticed any reduction of their total rewards on a regular basis?  I thought it has been my imagination.  I usually see it drop about .01 BTC every now and then so I thought that's just normal.  However, this time around, my total rewards dropped at least .02 BTC from about .89+ to .87+.  I work very hard and invested a lot just to get those bitcoin cents.

Slush, what's going on.  Is somebody milking my rewards every now and then hoping that I would not notice it?
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August 12, 2013, 11:41:41 AM
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Anybody noticed any reduction of their rewards on a regular basis?  I thought it has been my imagination.  I usually see it drop about .01 BTC every now and then so I thought that's just normal.  However, this time around, my total rewards dropped at least .02 BTC from about .89+ to .87+.  I work very hard and invested a lot just to get those bitcoin cents.

Slush, what's going on.  Is somebody milking my rewards every now and then hoping that I would not notice it?

If new people join slush, it lowers all the users rewards. It was 20701.827 Ghash/s the other day, now it's 31701.827 Ghash/s...The numbers you provided are inline with the growth of the pool.

Fun fact: the next diff jump will be around 30% (all time high growth) as it seems now, some of the new hash power joins slush so expect the rewards to continue degrading.

If this makes you nervous you shouldn't have invested in mining.
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August 12, 2013, 12:43:23 PM
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Strange - these seems valid to me

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19567 2013-08-12 01:45:33 0:54:32 24171354 47116 x 25.18850002 invalid
19566 2013-08-12 00:51:01 1:06:38 29404220 57684 x 25.10380000 invalid

http://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000041d5c80dd96c395ca42b8e5c07c0b15f2c28b87f7426929a67?site=slush
http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000001396dd3399bd95690845d5a0fe75be54545767358b8bf9aca2?site=slush

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For me too! Both blocks have /slush/ in coinbase.

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August 12, 2013, 12:47:42 PM
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the 101 adress is down for me

presently stratum is only resolving to

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    stratun.bitcoin.cz
Address:  109.74.195.190       <=- wildcard answer for unresolved dns entries... you would think slush would want that removed.... eh?

which is
Name:    kuzlatko.palatinus.cz
Address:  109.74.195.190

VERY FISHY indeed...

OH my bad hah! that is someone trying to make profit off a mispelling on stratum


Name:    stratum.bitcoin.cz
Addresses:  95.211.52.40
          54.225.116.174
          54.215.3.101
This cannot be fishy Smiley slush's real name is Marek Palatinus, so kuzlatko must be his backup server.

ah ok! I was thinking something along those lines, but didnt remember his name! then all is well!
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August 12, 2013, 04:38:01 PM
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wohoo!! 105% monthly 30 day luck

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August 12, 2013, 04:59:16 PM
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Anybody noticed any reduction of their rewards on a regular basis?  I thought it has been my imagination.  I usually see it drop about .01 BTC every now and then so I thought that's just normal.  However, this time around, my total rewards dropped at least .02 BTC from about .89+ to .87+.  I work very hard and invested a lot just to get those bitcoin cents.

Slush, what's going on.  Is somebody milking my rewards every now and then hoping that I would not notice it?

If new people join slush, it lowers all the users rewards. It was 20701.827 Ghash/s the other day, now it's 31701.827 Ghash/s...The numbers you provided are inline with the growth of the pool.

Fun fact: the next diff jump will be around 30% (all time high growth) as it seems now, some of the new hash power joins slush so expect the rewards to continue degrading.

If this makes you nervous you shouldn't have invested in mining.
Thanks for your input.  However, I don't think you understand my situation.  I'm talking about the amount that I already earned which registers under my "Total Rewards".  Like everybody else in the pool, I track it.  I'm not talking about variance here.  Why would it drop a cent or two every now and then when I already earned it?  Please don't give me that sermon about not investing if it makes me nervous.  That's getting too old.
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August 12, 2013, 05:05:21 PM
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I'm talking about the amount that I already earned which registers under my "Total Rewards".
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 Why would it drop a cent or two every now and then when I already earned it?
"Total Rewards" is not the same as 'already earned reward' - it is sum of the 'Confirmed Reward' (which is what you have earned and should look for) and 'Unconfirmed reward' which is an expectation and varies a lot with the time.

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August 12, 2013, 05:14:50 PM
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I'm talking about the amount that I already earned which registers under my "Total Rewards".
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 Why would it drop a cent or two every now and then when I already earned it?
"Total Rewards" is not the same as 'already earned reward' - it is sum of the 'Confirmed Reward' (which is what you have earned and should look for) and 'Unconfirmed reward' which is an expectation and varies a lot with the time.

Just to clarify, you're saying that an "Unconfirmed reward" is still subject to change and fluctuation until it is fully confirmed?
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August 12, 2013, 05:24:03 PM
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Exactly!
Look at the confirmed reward only - it will never go backward, but:
 if a block gets invalidated (or orphan) the unconfirmed reward will go down and drop the total reward too
 if another backend server posts it's data with some delay - it will go up or down for you
 if a block is recalculated the unconfirmed reward will change up or down and so will the total reward

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August 12, 2013, 06:13:25 PM
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Exactly!
Look at the confirmed reward only - it will never go backward, but:
 if a block gets invalidated (or orphan) the unconfirmed reward will go down and drop the total reward too
 if another backend server posts it's data with some delay - it will go up or down for you
 if a block is recalculated the unconfirmed reward will change up or down and so will the total reward
OK.  Will do from now on.  Thanks for enlightening me.  There's always something new to learn.  Now that I'm aware of it, I wonder why it doesn't happen too often.
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August 12, 2013, 06:18:48 PM
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Can some one please explain the benefit to setting your miners to more or less difficulty in a pool?
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August 12, 2013, 06:31:36 PM
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I wonder why it doesn't happen too often.
It shouldn't, but it may, so it is normal not to be too often and it is also normal when it does happen.

There are rarely invalid blocks, but because of the way the pool is organized it is not uncommon to have the other two reasons for reward changes. Usually the second one (backend servers data synchronization) happens all the time, but affects the reward with less than 1%, which one ignores if detected at all.
The third reason 'block recalculation' is once a day (on average, but usually several days without such needed) and it is often after a request (several posts complaining about low reward) in this thread.

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August 12, 2013, 06:44:02 PM
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Can some one please explain the benefit to setting your miners to more or less difficulty in a pool?
Changing your miner's difficulty (up) is mostly to reduce your internet connection bandwidth used and the server load, but it will also affect your CPU load (just few % but still) -  adds some lag (reduced speed) to your hashing
Just like for the OC clocks for your GPU and mem, you should find the balance for your case ... between the load (connection and CPU) and the variance in your reward in short and long rounds.
For each pool and miner's hashrate it is different, but for slush i would go for 2-5 sec per share, which is exactly the suggested difficulty from the account page. If you are on bandwidth limited/expensive internet connection and may accept bigger variance in your reward - go for 10-15 sec per share

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August 12, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
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Can some one please explain the benefit to setting your miners to more or less difficulty in a pool?
Simply check your miner speed, then configure your difficulty accordin to your miner speed. Too fast miners have problems if difficulty is too low. For example Avalons were constantly crashing on diff 1.

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August 12, 2013, 11:35:26 PM
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Are namecoin mining just dead on this pool? If so does anyone know of a pool with mergemining

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August 12, 2013, 11:40:00 PM
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BTC guild and Bitminter both do merged mining

Now hanging out on Atomic-Trade.com...
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August 13, 2013, 12:47:18 AM
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I wonder why it doesn't happen too often.
It shouldn't, but it may, so it is normal not to be too often and it is also normal when it does happen.

There are rarely invalid blocks, but because of the way the pool is organized it is not uncommon to have the other two reasons for reward changes. Usually the second one (backend servers data synchronization) happens all the time, but affects the reward with less than 1%, which one ignores if detected at all.
The third reason 'block recalculation' is once a day (on average, but usually several days without such needed) and it is often after a request (several posts complaining about low reward) in this thread.
Thanks again for sharing your extensive knowledge on the subject.
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August 13, 2013, 10:07:11 AM
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Is there a "nogpu" command for bfgminer ?
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August 13, 2013, 12:05:56 PM
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Is there a "nogpu" command for bfgminer ?

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