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October 19, 2013, 10:20:12 AM
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All my Block Eruptor stopped working 15 miutes ago for no obvious reasons ... using BFGMiner. Network on my RPi seems ok. Anyone else has issues with the pool ?
my rig is working ok, but I noticed a large drop in the pool's hash rate (from about 220TH to 198TH/s)

now at 176TH, looks like another DDOS attack or some server fault at our pool?!

Or all this weeks deliveries of miners?
When you take delivery, its out of the box and get hashing.
Then on saturday morning, shut them down and tidy up the rig.

By tonight the pool hashrate could be back up to 250TH.  That kind of swing in hashrate is as disruptive as a DDOS attack.

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October 19, 2013, 12:43:10 PM
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tonight the pool hashrate could be back up to 250TH.  That kind of swing in hashrate is as disruptive as a DDOS attack.

Why's that? As long as you're mining (and there's no evidence that hashrate swings affect the pool), your earnings only depend on your hashrate and the current difficulty.
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October 19, 2013, 12:47:31 PM
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tonight the pool hashrate could be back up to 250TH.  That kind of swing in hashrate is as disruptive as a DDOS attack.

Why's that? As long as you're mining (and there's no evidence that hashrate swings affect the pool), your earnings only depend on your hashrate and the current difficulty.
Who mentioned earnings
This was a question about pool hash rate.

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October 19, 2013, 04:36:20 PM
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tonight the pool hashrate could be back up to 250TH.  That kind of swing in hashrate is as disruptive as a DDOS attack.

Why's that? As long as you're mining (and there's no evidence that hashrate swings affect the pool), your earnings only depend on your hashrate and the current difficulty.
Who mentioned earnings
This was a question about pool hash rate.

If your earnings aren't affected, why is it "as disruptive as a DDOS attack"?
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October 19, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
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tonight the pool hashrate could be back up to 250TH.  That kind of swing in hashrate is as disruptive as a DDOS attack.

Why's that? As long as you're mining (and there's no evidence that hashrate swings affect the pool), your earnings only depend on your hashrate and the current difficulty.
Who mentioned earnings
This was a question about pool hash rate.

If your earnings aren't affected, why is it "as disruptive as a DDOS attack"?

my earnings are 1/3 what they were just 2 week ago because of increasing pool hash rate and difficulty increase. when I started here pool was 8 now were looking at 250... Roll Eyes

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October 19, 2013, 05:42:54 PM
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tonight the pool hashrate could be back up to 250TH.  That kind of swing in hashrate is as disruptive as a DDOS attack.

Why's that? As long as you're mining (and there's no evidence that hashrate swings affect the pool), your earnings only depend on your hashrate and the current difficulty.
Who mentioned earnings
This was a question about pool hash rate.

If your earnings aren't affected, why is it "as disruptive as a DDOS attack"?

Got it totally wrong. The hash rate has only gone back up to 223.747723TH

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October 19, 2013, 06:05:46 PM
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tonight the pool hashrate could be back up to 250TH.  That kind of swing in hashrate is as disruptive as a DDOS attack.

Why's that? As long as you're mining (and there's no evidence that hashrate swings affect the pool), your earnings only depend on your hashrate and the current difficulty.
Who mentioned earnings
This was a question about pool hash rate.

If your earnings aren't affected, why is it "as disruptive as a DDOS attack"?

my earnings are 1/3 what they were just 2 week ago because of increasing pool hash rate and difficulty increase. when I started here pool was 8 now were looking at 250... Roll Eyes

Your earnings aren't directly affected by the pool hash rate; they're only affected by the difficulty. Of course, difficulty increases because of the overall hash rate increase, but during any difficulty round, increases in the pool (or total network) hash rate has no affect at all on your earnings.

If you're only getting 1/3 from two weeks ago, you're probably just having bad luck at the moment. Difficulty then was a bit more that half of what it is now, so your earning should be about 1/2 (actually a little bit more).
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October 19, 2013, 06:20:27 PM
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mining pool hashrate does affect your earnings as the 25btc block still has to be split by how many shares you submitted so for example a block took 100 shares and 1 user submitted all those share they would get 25bitcoin where as if 2 users submitted share they would get 12.5 each

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October 19, 2013, 06:33:01 PM
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mining pool hashrate does affect your earnings as the 25btc block still has to be split by how many shares you submitted so for example a block took 100 shares and 1 user submitted all those share they would get 25bitcoin where as if 2 users submitted share they would get 12.5 each

Indeed, but in the case of two users, you would win blocks twice as quickly since the pool's hash is doubled so the overall earnings would be the same.
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October 19, 2013, 06:40:39 PM
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Your earnings aren't directly affected by the pool hash rate;
Seriously? Since when?

EDIT: I see your above response, I take my "seriously" back Smiley

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October 19, 2013, 06:50:40 PM
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Your earnings aren't directly affected by the pool hash rate;
Seriously? Since when?

Since bitcoin was invented. Your earnings (whether you're mining solo or in a pool) depend only on your hash rate compared to the current difficulty. If during a difficulty round your pool's hash rate increases, then blocks will be found more quickly but you get a smaller share of each one so your average earnings will stay the same until the next difficulty change.
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October 19, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
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Question.
 If the bitcoin network finds one new block every 10 mins
where are all the 10 min blocks going?

There are 2 blocks under 10 mins in the current statistics,
most of the others are multiple hours!

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October 19, 2013, 07:25:09 PM
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the figures up on the right should answer your question

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October 19, 2013, 07:46:36 PM
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Question.
 If the bitcoin network finds one new block every 10 mins
where are all the 10 min blocks going?

There are 2 blocks under 10 mins in the current statistics,
most of the others are multiple hours!

They're going to other pools (BTCGuild, ghash.io, etc). Watch http://blockchain.info to see the blocks being solved in real time. Remember that once every ten minutes is only on average and there may well be less or more time between blocks. Since the network hash rate is still increasing, blocks are being solved about once every seven minutes (on average) currently. See http://blockchain.info/pools to see the percentage breakdown between pools.
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October 19, 2013, 07:58:08 PM
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Not sure what happen? Miners were not down.

 
#               Block found at Duration                    Total shares                 Your shares            Your BTC reward          Block #             Block value              Validity
20474         2013-10-19 19:49:11 0:58:18         183619562                   14319                   0.00278337                 264716           25.05891520      98 confirmations left  
20473         2013-10-19 18:50:53 4:18:43         806905065                  47775                    0.00000000                 264706           25.02120000      88 confirmations left  
20472         2013-10-19 14:32:10 0:33:05         101910920                   9975                     0.00273336                 264672           25.12480605      54 confirmations left  
20471         2013-10-19 13:59:05 1:34:50        290381577                   31050                    0.00262393                 264664           25.03999643      46 confirmations left  
20470         2013-10-19 12:24:15 0:36:09        109556297                   12050                    0.00281957                 264650           25.06568921      32 confirmations left  
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October 19, 2013, 08:06:12 PM
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mining pool hashrate does affect your earnings as the 25btc block still has to be split by how many shares you submitted so for example a block took 100 shares and 1 user submitted all those share they would get 25bitcoin where as if 2 users submitted share they would get 12.5 each

Indeed, but in the case of two users, you would win blocks twice as quickly since the pool's hash is doubled so the overall earnings would be the same.

so in that case blocks should be found faster and faster...

the way bitcoin work is the difficulty controls how fast blocks are found by the network and hashrate allows even distribution among the mining pool that finds that block that way if someones putting in 2ths and someones pitting in 1mhs there not getting an even share of the block so if the 2th miner increases to 6ths he will see his mining profit per block increase and the 1mhs miner will decrease

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October 20, 2013, 04:28:01 AM
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Not sure what happen? Miners were not down.

 
#               Block found at Duration                    Total shares                 Your shares            Your BTC reward          Block #             Block value              Validity
20474         2013-10-19 19:49:11 0:58:18         183619562                   14319                   0.00278337                 264716           25.05891520      98 confirmations left 
20473         2013-10-19 18:50:53 4:18:43         806905065                  47775                    0.00000000                 264706           25.02120000      88 confirmations left 
20472         2013-10-19 14:32:10 0:33:05         101910920                   9975                     0.00273336                 264672           25.12480605      54 confirmations left 
20471         2013-10-19 13:59:05 1:34:50        290381577                   31050                    0.00262393                 264664           25.03999643      46 confirmations left 
20470         2013-10-19 12:24:15 0:36:09        109556297                   12050                    0.00281957                 264650           25.06568921      32 confirmations left 

Comparing your fraction of shares to Total shares to mine, there is clearly a lower value for this block, perhaps your rig or internet connection had some issue towards the end of the block
Block #   Share ratio Aurel57/Kabopar
20474   1.649844452
20473   1.225817211
20472   1.936893204
20471   2.221506761
20470   2.186536019
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October 20, 2013, 06:14:13 AM
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Does anyone know if it is safe to plug in a new asicminer blade v2 onto the backplane without shutting the backplane down?

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October 20, 2013, 06:38:09 AM
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for the one minute it takes to shut it down and plug it in and turn it back on I don't think you will miss much BTC . better safe than sorry?

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October 20, 2013, 08:51:04 AM
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so in that case blocks should be found faster and faster...

And that is what's happening. Currently blocks are being solved every 7 minutes or so rather than the normal 10. At the next difficulty change, difficulty will be set to try to bring the rate to once per 10 minutes again.

if someones putting in 2ths and someones pitting in 1mhs there not getting an even share of the block so if the 2th miner increases to 6ths he will see his mining profit per block increase and the 1mhs miner will decrease

That's right per block, but not overall (per difficulty round). If the 2TH/s miner increases to 6TH/s, then the pool will find blocks at a higher rate. The 1MH/s miner will get less per block, but will see more blocks; this balances out so earnings are unchanged for the small miner. (The big miner, of course, will see higher earnings since he increased his hash rate).
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