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September 22, 2013, 05:18:49 PM
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If luck is equal, you'll make more on BTC Guild counting NMC.  If luck is not equal, obviously it depends on which pool was lucky and which wasn't.

Also, Guild has _NO_ penalty on payouts for shared hash rate or failover.  PPLNS does not penalize you if you leave, unlike exponential score where shares become worthless shortly after they're submitted in long rounds.  Once the share is submitted, it's paid just like every other until it expires (after it leaves the 'N' window).

Also:  If you submit a share, it continues to get paid for 8 hours, rather than only getting paid once (or not at all due to exponential score on slush).  It seems nobody ever factors this in when comparing payouts.  The math shows quite clearly Guild will beat slush (NMC + paid Orphans will pay better than a 1% fee difference).

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September 22, 2013, 06:13:27 PM
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All pools have their pros and cons.

Yes, if you stop mining on Slush sometime during a round you do get hit pretty hard.

I've mined on BTCGuild before for about a week. NMC is a nice bonus, but for what I've mined there, even with the NMC factored in I still did a little better on Slush. So in my personal experience, I can get a better return mining with Slush.

I'm still mining a little bit with BTCGuild (about 10%) at least until I get enough btc to be able to get a payout.


I'm not going to get into a "my pool can kick your pool's @$$" arguement. I like BTCGuild, they have a nice website layout and the mining rewards are a little bit more consistant. If someone want to try them out, I'm not going to try and talk them out of it.

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September 22, 2013, 06:25:44 PM
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10:53:24. So. Is this the future? Will we see more and more of these ungodly long blocks, as the terra-, peta- and quexa-hash farms come online? Is the difficulty just not bad enough?


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September 22, 2013, 06:35:55 PM
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10:53:24. So. Is this the future? Will we see more and more of these ungodly long blocks, as the terra-, peta- and quexa-hash farms come online? Is the difficulty just not bad enough?



I think the long blocks will increase if the pool's hashrate doesn't increase. This pool is slowly receding. As much as more hashing power dilutes my share of the block, a larger share of nothing is still nothing.

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September 22, 2013, 07:34:36 PM
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All pools have their pros and cons.

Yes, if you stop mining on Slush sometime during a round you do get hit pretty hard.

I've mined on BTCGuild before for about a week. NMC is a nice bonus, but for what I've mined there, even with the NMC factored in I still did a little better on Slush. So in my personal experience, I can get a better return mining with Slush.

I'm still mining a little bit with BTCGuild (about 10%) at least until I get enough btc to be able to get a payout.


I'm not going to get into a "my pool can kick your pool's @$$" arguement. I like BTCGuild, they have a nice website layout and the mining rewards are a little bit more consistant. If someone want to try them out, I'm not going to try and talk them out of it.

As a test I am mining on three different pools, with the same hash rate on every pool 24/7. Two with pps, one with DGM (Slush). So far I have a 10-15% higher payout from slush for the last month. It is quite evident where this comes from: pool luck in the last 30 days is above 100% and therefore I have received a 100% pay out of block fees and Transfer fees (which actually do add to the income!!!) On the other hand some pools calculate my income 25btc / difficulty - fee. So I consider this quite greedy and my loyalty will not be endless.

Obviously there is a psychological effect with the long blocks. If you are lucky and mine 10 blocks in an hour you are happy for an hour. If you are unlucky and gain nothing for ten hours you are unhappy for ten hours. I kind of have the Feeling that People get overwhelmed by there ffelings in a situation (mining bitcoins) where only logic counts. So if you are bored go and watch Television or talk to somebody, but dont stare at the stats or the block chain. This may kill your rational. Better look at your email accounts and also look at the 30 day pool luck.

Personally I kind of feel pitty with the pool operators as a whole. Transfer numbers increase, so should costs, but the income from blocks remains equal (at least in btc). As far as I understand Slush is constantly figuring out something, so lets wait and see. 

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September 22, 2013, 08:17:20 PM
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did the accounts page just get modified? I no longer see any namecoin info, and it does not seem to show the difficulty/suggested difficulty anymore...?

I've found an "intermediate state" in my browser window that I've refreshed yesterday last time.
There's no namecoin related content any more, but there's still the Suggested dificulty column, and also the Stratum column, that has been also removed now, as Slush supports stratum protocol only for some time already.
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September 22, 2013, 10:53:38 PM
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yesterday, six and a half hours followed by seven and a half hours.
today, 8 hours and still going.

If these long blocks paid more it would be a great result!!!!!!!!!

Edit:-  used all the babies yesterday

9 hours and counting
this must be a record, does anyone remember a longer block?

12 days ago there was a 14 hour block. You must remember it with your 70 days' activity Smiley :

Holy cow 14h with ~57TH/s for one block.
I'd really be interested if someone maintains a negative "Highscore" list for cases like that :-D
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September 23, 2013, 01:47:42 AM
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Even with 7 hour rounds slush is still doing pretty good for roi as far a I can see but these long rounds do make me sad.

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September 23, 2013, 01:50:02 AM
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But nobody gets too sad about the 2 or 3 minute blocks that often happen afterwards... Smiley

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September 23, 2013, 02:25:23 AM
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But nobody gets too sad about the 2 or 3 minute blocks that often happen afterwards... Smiley
Nope, they don't even get a mention maybe because people believe in jinxing it.

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September 23, 2013, 05:12:17 AM
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But nobody gets too sad about the 2 or 3 minute blocks that often happen afterwards... Smiley

Nobody gets sad about GOOD THINGS. Please bring on more GOOD THINGS, gods of the crypto-coins.

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September 23, 2013, 08:01:33 AM
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yesterday, six and a half hours followed by seven and a half hours.
today, 8 hours and still going.

If these long blocks paid more it would be a great result!!!!!!!!!

Edit:-  used all the babies yesterday

9 hours and counting
this must be a record, does anyone remember a longer block?

12 days ago there was a 14 hour block. You must remember it with your 70 days' activity Smiley :

Holy cow 14h with ~57TH/s for one block.
I'd really be interested if someone maintains a negative "Highscore" list for cases like that :-D

That must have been about when I had clicked on "unwatch" instead of "reply" Embarrassed

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September 24, 2013, 02:29:13 PM
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hmm should I buy a BFL 60gh/s for 2k CDN cash? I can get one today.

Projections are OK on genesis block and I wouldn't be converting to coin first.

Any thoughts from fellow slush users?
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September 24, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
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hmm should I buy a BFL 60gh/s for 2k CDN cash? I can get one today.

Projections are OK on genesis block and I wouldn't be converting to coin first.

Any thoughts from fellow slush users?

Give "bitpop" a PM
He had some bfl chips spare from group buy, you will need 16 chips. He may have some left.
(chips due for delivery within the next week to 10 days if I remember correctly)
and PM to "Lucko" for a board and assembly.
If you are quick you will get a brand new 64 Gh BFL clone and maybe some change for 2k. all you will need is a PSU about 500W with 2 PCIe connectors.

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Hmm
I can get a BfL 60gh/s today for 2k cash.

Just wondering if you would do it ..? Not looking for a place to find one though thanks for the info!

And for 2k I just plug it in, I guess it might worth it.
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Hmm
I can get a BfL 60gh/s today for 2k cash.

Just wondering if you would do it ..? Not looking for a place to find one though thanks for the info!

And for 2k I just plug it in, I guess it might worth it.

Currently negotiating for 8 boards from "Lucko" (search this forum for Cointamination) its a BFL open source unit. 64Gh/s
$600 for board+assembly, $880 for 16 chips, $50 for PSU. price may go up in 10 days or so when deliveries start.

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September 24, 2013, 11:58:09 PM
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Hmm
I can get a BfL 60gh/s today for 2k cash.

Just wondering if you would do it ..? Not looking for a place to find one though thanks for the info!

And for 2k I just plug it in, I guess it might worth it.

So you're saying you needn't wait for ten days, and you obtain complete rig - no need to assemble, for 2k cash? Looks better than the previous post, but still won't pay for itself... With current difficulty, you'd get your first BTC in five days. But the diff is going to increase more than 30 % today. And again and again..
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September 25, 2013, 12:11:19 AM
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Hmm
I can get a BfL 60gh/s today for 2k cash.

Just wondering if you would do it ..? Not looking for a place to find one though thanks for the info!

And for 2k I just plug it in, I guess it might worth it.

So you're saying you needn't wait for ten days, and you obtain complete rig - no need to assemble, for 2k cash? Looks better than the previous post, but still won't pay for itself... With current difficulty, you'd get your first BTC in five days. But the diff is going to increase more than 30 % today. And again and again..

Order 16 chips from "bitpop" and pay, chips will be shipping soon,  Order board at the end of this week, units will start to ship about 10th October.( search this forum for Cointamination and have a read)

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September 25, 2013, 12:52:00 AM
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Hmm
I can get a BfL 60gh/s today for 2k cash.

Just wondering if you would do it ..? Not looking for a place to find one though thanks for the info!

And for 2k I just plug it in, I guess it might worth it.

So you're saying you needn't wait for ten days, and you obtain complete rig - no need to assemble, for 2k cash? Looks better than the previous post, but still won't pay for itself... With current difficulty, you'd get your first BTC in five days. But the diff is going to increase more than 30 % today. And again and again..

Order 16 chips from "bitpop" and pay, chips will be shipping soon,  Order board at the end of this week, units will start to ship about 10th October.( search this forum for Cointamination and have a read)

In two weeks is not the same as today...
Anyway, according to my calculations: With current steady difficulty growth of ~31 % each 11 days (which I don't believe is going to change in near future) you would get about 6.88 BTC in less than a year. That's some $915 in current prices. But you'd be doing about some 0.03 mBTC/day after the year. That means, you'd mine (nearly) nothing after the first year. Thus, the BTC/$ price would have to increase more than 2.2 times just to get your $2k back, with zero profit.

[edit]: The above results don't even count with electricity costs.
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September 25, 2013, 03:42:13 AM
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Hmm
I can get a BfL 60gh/s today for 2k cash.

Just wondering if you would do it ..? Not looking for a place to find one though thanks for the info!

And for 2k I just plug it in, I guess it might worth it.

I got my BFL Single a few days ago and mining with it on slush's pool. it takes 4-5 days (depending on pool luck) to earn 1 BTC at this difficulty.
But next difficulty level is estimated to be an increase of 34 million...   Cry
It gets me quite unsure wether or not I'll reach ROI on this. But since I got chip coupons from BFL I made contact with Lucko in order to make use of 'em and hopefully increase my hashing rate.  Cool
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