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September 22, 2013, 12:43:48 PM
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can someone sacrifice some newborn babies or something, this block is getting too long lol
I thought a virgin works better.
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September 22, 2013, 01:33:49 PM
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yesterday, six and a half hours followed by seven and a half hours.
today, 8 hours and still going.

If these long blocks paid more it would be a great result!!!!!!!!!

Edit:-  used all the babies yesterday

9 hours and counting
this must be a record, does anyone remember a longer block?

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September 22, 2013, 02:31:38 PM
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We had one over 11 hours not too long ago.

Well, I experimented with pool load sharing with CGMiner just a few days ago. Maybe I'll turn it back on. Slush's pool had good luck while I was trying it out. So if the luck goes thru the roof later today...

Just passing time.
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September 22, 2013, 02:53:28 PM
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We had one over 11 hours not too long ago.

Well, I experimented with pool load sharing with CGMiner just a few days ago. Maybe I'll turn it back on. Slush's pool had good luck while I was trying it out. So if the luck goes thru the roof later today...

Load sharing is a better word than "skipping"
If blocks like this become more common, then load sharing may help to spread the risk. 10 Gh miners were not too exposed in the past, but now, with 60 gh and bigger units......................!
If we had an automatic bias towards the pool showing the highest luck factor, built into the software, then it would be a winner.

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September 22, 2013, 03:24:56 PM
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I'm not "pool hopping", I've setup CGMiner to split my 12 Gh between Slush and (currently) BTCGuild.  So I'm currently still mining with Slush with roughly 6 Gh and roughly 6 Gh going towards BTCGuild. 

Is this a viable way to run one miner? Who knows for sure....

Just passing time.
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I'm not "pool hopping", I've setup CGMiner to split my 12 Gh between Slush and (currently) BTCGuild.  So I'm currently still mining with Slush with roughly 6 Gh and roughly 6 Gh going towards BTCGuild. 

Is this a viable way to run one miner? Who knows for sure....
can you tell us which pool you do better at? Just wondering with BTCGuild being 5 times larger?

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September 22, 2013, 03:37:46 PM
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I'm not "pool hopping", I've setup CGMiner to split my 12 Gh between Slush and (currently) BTCGuild.  So I'm currently still mining with Slush with roughly 6 Gh and roughly 6 Gh going towards BTCGuild. 

Is this a viable way to run one miner? Who knows for sure....

In my experience split mining, i make crap on BTCGuild regardless of the situation or hash rate.  if you want to use a backup pool, I recommend 50BTC.  I wish i'd mined 50/50 last night, but its best to throw 100% at a pool and stick with it to help increase the pools luck.
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September 22, 2013, 03:48:59 PM
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In my experience split mining, i make crap on BTCGuild regardless of the situation or hash rate.  if you want to use a backup pool, I recommend 50BTC.  I wish i'd mined 50/50 last night, but its best to throw 100% at a pool and stick with it to help increase the pools luck.

I agree with you on BTCGuild. In the 24 hour window I tested, I saw a better return on Slush then I saw on BTCGuild.  I just turned the load sharing back on to see if it would shake us out of that monster round. Annnnd since then we finished that round and put up another round twelve minutes later.  I guess it worked. I'll switch back to 100% Slush now. Next time, save the babies. Smiley

I'll look at 50BTC sometime later. I could always use them as a backup if Slush has an outage in the future.

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September 22, 2013, 05:18:49 PM
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If luck is equal, you'll make more on BTC Guild counting NMC.  If luck is not equal, obviously it depends on which pool was lucky and which wasn't.

Also, Guild has _NO_ penalty on payouts for shared hash rate or failover.  PPLNS does not penalize you if you leave, unlike exponential score where shares become worthless shortly after they're submitted in long rounds.  Once the share is submitted, it's paid just like every other until it expires (after it leaves the 'N' window).

Also:  If you submit a share, it continues to get paid for 8 hours, rather than only getting paid once (or not at all due to exponential score on slush).  It seems nobody ever factors this in when comparing payouts.  The math shows quite clearly Guild will beat slush (NMC + paid Orphans will pay better than a 1% fee difference).

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September 22, 2013, 06:13:27 PM
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All pools have their pros and cons.

Yes, if you stop mining on Slush sometime during a round you do get hit pretty hard.

I've mined on BTCGuild before for about a week. NMC is a nice bonus, but for what I've mined there, even with the NMC factored in I still did a little better on Slush. So in my personal experience, I can get a better return mining with Slush.

I'm still mining a little bit with BTCGuild (about 10%) at least until I get enough btc to be able to get a payout.


I'm not going to get into a "my pool can kick your pool's @$$" arguement. I like BTCGuild, they have a nice website layout and the mining rewards are a little bit more consistant. If someone want to try them out, I'm not going to try and talk them out of it.

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September 22, 2013, 06:25:44 PM
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10:53:24. So. Is this the future? Will we see more and more of these ungodly long blocks, as the terra-, peta- and quexa-hash farms come online? Is the difficulty just not bad enough?


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10:53:24. So. Is this the future? Will we see more and more of these ungodly long blocks, as the terra-, peta- and quexa-hash farms come online? Is the difficulty just not bad enough?



I think the long blocks will increase if the pool's hashrate doesn't increase. This pool is slowly receding. As much as more hashing power dilutes my share of the block, a larger share of nothing is still nothing.

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All pools have their pros and cons.

Yes, if you stop mining on Slush sometime during a round you do get hit pretty hard.

I've mined on BTCGuild before for about a week. NMC is a nice bonus, but for what I've mined there, even with the NMC factored in I still did a little better on Slush. So in my personal experience, I can get a better return mining with Slush.

I'm still mining a little bit with BTCGuild (about 10%) at least until I get enough btc to be able to get a payout.


I'm not going to get into a "my pool can kick your pool's @$$" arguement. I like BTCGuild, they have a nice website layout and the mining rewards are a little bit more consistant. If someone want to try them out, I'm not going to try and talk them out of it.

As a test I am mining on three different pools, with the same hash rate on every pool 24/7. Two with pps, one with DGM (Slush). So far I have a 10-15% higher payout from slush for the last month. It is quite evident where this comes from: pool luck in the last 30 days is above 100% and therefore I have received a 100% pay out of block fees and Transfer fees (which actually do add to the income!!!) On the other hand some pools calculate my income 25btc / difficulty - fee. So I consider this quite greedy and my loyalty will not be endless.

Obviously there is a psychological effect with the long blocks. If you are lucky and mine 10 blocks in an hour you are happy for an hour. If you are unlucky and gain nothing for ten hours you are unhappy for ten hours. I kind of have the Feeling that People get overwhelmed by there ffelings in a situation (mining bitcoins) where only logic counts. So if you are bored go and watch Television or talk to somebody, but dont stare at the stats or the block chain. This may kill your rational. Better look at your email accounts and also look at the 30 day pool luck.

Personally I kind of feel pitty with the pool operators as a whole. Transfer numbers increase, so should costs, but the income from blocks remains equal (at least in btc). As far as I understand Slush is constantly figuring out something, so lets wait and see. 

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September 22, 2013, 08:17:20 PM
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did the accounts page just get modified? I no longer see any namecoin info, and it does not seem to show the difficulty/suggested difficulty anymore...?

I've found an "intermediate state" in my browser window that I've refreshed yesterday last time.
There's no namecoin related content any more, but there's still the Suggested dificulty column, and also the Stratum column, that has been also removed now, as Slush supports stratum protocol only for some time already.
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September 22, 2013, 10:53:38 PM
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yesterday, six and a half hours followed by seven and a half hours.
today, 8 hours and still going.

If these long blocks paid more it would be a great result!!!!!!!!!

Edit:-  used all the babies yesterday

9 hours and counting
this must be a record, does anyone remember a longer block?

12 days ago there was a 14 hour block. You must remember it with your 70 days' activity Smiley :

Holy cow 14h with ~57TH/s for one block.
I'd really be interested if someone maintains a negative "Highscore" list for cases like that :-D
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September 23, 2013, 01:47:42 AM
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Even with 7 hour rounds slush is still doing pretty good for roi as far a I can see but these long rounds do make me sad.

Keep Slush rounds short by donating to my wallet 1Pbmm1L69wNG7HaCHGLmVKzVCsq6p3UTds and also in case I actually helped someone.
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But nobody gets too sad about the 2 or 3 minute blocks that often happen afterwards... Smiley

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But nobody gets too sad about the 2 or 3 minute blocks that often happen afterwards... Smiley
Nope, they don't even get a mention maybe because people believe in jinxing it.

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But nobody gets too sad about the 2 or 3 minute blocks that often happen afterwards... Smiley

Nobody gets sad about GOOD THINGS. Please bring on more GOOD THINGS, gods of the crypto-coins.

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yesterday, six and a half hours followed by seven and a half hours.
today, 8 hours and still going.

If these long blocks paid more it would be a great result!!!!!!!!!

Edit:-  used all the babies yesterday

9 hours and counting
this must be a record, does anyone remember a longer block?

12 days ago there was a 14 hour block. You must remember it with your 70 days' activity Smiley :

Holy cow 14h with ~57TH/s for one block.
I'd really be interested if someone maintains a negative "Highscore" list for cases like that :-D

That must have been about when I had clicked on "unwatch" instead of "reply" Embarrassed

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