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September 10, 2013, 07:56:28 PM
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honestly the drop out rate is really really bad.  I belive there's an algorithm in place to stop "pool hopping" that really really penalizes you for dropping in the middle and re-joining.  Basically my miners kept going down and you basically get murdered.

But then when you rejoin you tend to remake it close to what your estimates were in a decent amount of time (probably not with this ultra marathon session tho...)

more info here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg50002#msg50002
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September 10, 2013, 08:03:08 PM
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What happens if I drop out of a long round? Does whatever I have computed so far goes to waste?


it goes to 0. that is what u signed onto in the Slush pool.
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September 10, 2013, 08:05:32 PM
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USB miners always work at Diff 1, so I don't know why you're trying to change them...
What? We are talking about the workers diff... Mine just happens to be using 43 USB miners and the pool now has the workers diff set at 9


where are u seeing this diff of 9? at your My Account page? or u are staring at the output from cgminer/bfgminer etc?
if it isnt on your account page, then u need to minimize that window and stop nit picking, u r gunna die of old age
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September 10, 2013, 08:15:45 PM
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USB miners always work at Diff 1, so I don't know why you're trying to change them...
What? We are talking about the workers diff... Mine just happens to be using 43 USB miners and the pool now has the workers diff set at 9


where are u seeing this diff of 9? at your My Account page? or u are staring at the output from cgminer/bfgminer etc?
if it isnt on your account page, then u need to minimize that window and stop nit picking, u r gunna die of old age
show where I was nitpicking anything?
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September 10, 2013, 08:23:07 PM
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Holy cow 14h with ~57TH/s for one block.
I'd really be interested if someone maintains a negative "Highscore" list for cases like that :-D
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September 10, 2013, 08:47:07 PM
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What happens if I drop out of a long round? Does whatever I have computed so far goes to waste?


it goes to 0. that is what u signed onto in the Slush pool.
If I lose internet connection and can't get it online again until after the round, I'm doomed.

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September 10, 2013, 09:03:48 PM
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What happens if I drop out of a long round? Does whatever I have computed so far goes to waste?


it goes to 0. that is what u signed onto in the Slush pool.
If I lose internet connection and can't get it online again until after the round, I'm doomed.

If you lose internet connection that often, you should consider switching to a PPS or perhaps a DGM pool.
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September 10, 2013, 09:07:09 PM
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Howdy.

Has anybody else's re-ward dropped over the last six or seven blocks or so? Is is just me? All my machines are online... weird... I'm still /relatively/ new at this, and don't understand everything. I guess it's just one of those things.

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September 10, 2013, 09:45:40 PM
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We've added a lot more hasing power the last few days.  I think it went from low 50's to high 58Thash/s so you're doing less of the overall work lately than before.  Thus a lower percentage of the reward :/
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September 10, 2013, 10:10:09 PM
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What happens if I drop out of a long round? Does whatever I have computed so far goes to waste?


it goes to 0. that is what u signed onto in the Slush pool.
If I lose internet connection and can't get it online again until after the round, I'm doomed.

If you lose internet connection that often, you should consider switching to a PPS or perhaps a DGM pool.
I though Slush was PPS. What's a DGM anyways?

No, I don't lose connection often. As a matter of fact it's pretty rare for me to even see a hiccup but things happen.

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September 10, 2013, 10:28:50 PM
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honestly the drop out rate is really really bad.  I belive there's an algorithm in place to stop "pool hopping" that really really penalizes you for dropping in the middle and re-joining.  Basically my miners kept going down and you basically get murdered.

But then when you rejoin you tend to remake it close to what your estimates were in a decent amount of time (probably not with this ultra marathon session tho...)

more info here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg50002#msg50002

The post linked describes the principle, but it is not too recent.
The time constant of the share value decay has been found to be only 200 seconds currently, instead of the original value of 300 s. So the decay is even quicker, assumedly to increase the anti-hopping efficiency.

When you leave the pool during the round duration, your score diminishes quite quickly. When you join during the round OTOH, your score builds up equally quickly. Thus you can gain this way and compensate for the loss from leaving.
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September 10, 2013, 10:41:16 PM
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What happens if I drop out of a long round? Does whatever I have computed so far goes to waste?


it goes to 0. that is what u signed onto in the Slush pool.
If I lose internet connection and can't get it online again until after the round, I'm doomed.

If you lose internet connection that often, you should consider switching to a PPS or perhaps a DGM pool.
I though Slush was PPS. What's a DGM anyways?

No, I don't lose connection often. As a matter of fact it's pretty rare for me to even see a hiccup but things happen.

DGM is short for Double Geometric Method.

The effects of lost connection & reconnection should compensate in the long run, as follows from my previous post.
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September 10, 2013, 11:36:00 PM
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September 11, 2013, 02:57:50 AM
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USB miners always work at Diff 1, so I don't know why you're trying to change them...

I beg to differ there sir. While they start out at 1, mine auto adjust to 2.

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 (5s):2.480G (avg):2.338Gh/s | A:43015  R:25  HW:400  WU:32.6/m
 ST: 3  SS: 0  NB: 165  LW: 88420  GF: 1  RF: 0
 Connected to stratum.bitcoin.cz diff 2 with stratum as user *snipped*
 Block: *snipped*...  Diff:86.9M  Started: [22:47:05]  Best share: 24.9K
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 AMU 0:                | 333.8M/334.1Mh/s | A:6229 R:2 HW:61 WU:4.7/m
 AMU 1:                | 333.8M/334.1Mh/s | A:6113 R:4 HW:58 WU:4.6/m
 AMU 2:                | 333.8M/334.3Mh/s | A:6137 R:2 HW:66 WU:4.7/m
 AMU 3:                | 334.1M/334.2Mh/s | A:6230 R:3 HW:60 WU:4.7/m
 AMU 4:                | 333.9M/334.1Mh/s | A:6117 R:7 HW:56 WU:4.6/m
 AMU 5:                | 334.3M/334.1Mh/s | A:6134 R:7 HW:58 WU:4.6/m
 AMU 6:                | 334.1M/334.1Mh/s | A:6055 R:0 HW:41 WU:4.7/m
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 [2013-09-10 22:53:58] Accepted 680475fe Diff 2/2 AMU 0
 [2013-09-10 22:53:59] Accepted 243a23f4 Diff 7/2 AMU 0
 [2013-09-10 22:54:00] Accepted 367a7e3a Diff 4/2 AMU 3
 [2013-09-10 22:54:18] Accepted 11e8f5f0 Diff 14/2 AMU 1
 [2013-09-10 22:54:22] Accepted 619cc0c7 Diff 2/2 AMU 3
 [2013-09-10 22:54:24] Accepted 6b2efba6 Diff 2/2 AMU 5
 [2013-09-10 22:54:27] Accepted 25019fd2 Diff 6/2 AMU 3
 [2013-09-10 22:54:31] Accepted 1f31c325 Diff 8/2 AMU 5
 [2013-09-10 22:54:33] Accepted 2198509f Diff 7/2 AMU 6
 [2013-09-10 22:54:37] Accepted 385ccca1 Diff 4/2 AMU 5
 [2013-09-10 22:54:39] Accepted 32e1a6f6 Diff 5/2 AMU 4
 [2013-09-10 22:54:44] Accepted 2526a1d3 Diff 6/2 AMU 0
 [2013-09-10 22:54:49] Accepted 3959480a Diff 4/2 AMU 4
 [2013-09-10 22:54:52] Accepted 26836b95 Diff 6/2 AMU 5
 [2013-09-10 22:54:53] Accepted 1c54aed9 Diff 9/2 AMU 0
 [2013-09-10 22:54:57] Accepted 0b11aad9 Diff 23/2 AMU 0
 [2013-09-10 22:55:24] Accepted 3ecc1d6c Diff 4/2 AMU 4
 [2013-09-10 22:55:28] Accepted 040395f6 Diff 63/2 AMU 3
 [2013-09-10 22:55:28] Accepted 5747d5e2 Diff 2/2 AMU 4
 [2013-09-10 22:55:30] Accepted 491ff6b3 Diff 3/2 AMU 1
 [2013-09-10 22:55:37] Accepted 6e0ededf Diff 2/2 AMU 3
 [2013-09-10 22:55:39] Accepted 3f8b5a4d Diff 4/2 AMU 3
 [2013-09-10 22:55:42] Accepted 46682442 Diff 3/2 AMU 5
 [2013-09-10 22:55:46] Accepted 28766d97 Diff 6/2 AMU 2
 [2013-09-10 22:55:57] Accepted 4f581903 Diff 3/2 AMU 5
 [2013-09-10 22:56:01] Accepted 1102095c Diff 15/2 AMU 6
 [2013-09-10 22:56:09] Accepted 26cf0c94 Diff 6/2 AMU 4
 [2013-09-10 22:56:10] Accepted 23451b8c Diff 7/2 AMU 6
 [2013-09-10 22:56:12] Accepted 382821ba Diff 4/2 AMU 3

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September 11, 2013, 09:44:15 AM
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They WORK at Diff1.  cgminer/bfgminer is handing them diff2 work.  There's a difference.

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September 11, 2013, 10:39:21 AM
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They WORK at Diff1.  cgminer/bfgminer is handing them diff2 work.  There's a difference.

There is no such thing as "handing them diff 2 work".
Which diff is met by a hash can only be determined after it is computated.
The only thing happening when operating at diff 2 is that all diff one shares get dropped by your mining software instead of being sent to the pool server.
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September 11, 2013, 10:46:13 AM
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They WORK at Diff1.  cgminer/bfgminer is handing them diff2 work.  There's a difference.

Miner software just computes hashes, and then checks to see if the hashes are lower than the arbitrary submission difficulty you have selected (or the pool has autoselected). If you could create only diff1 shares then you'd have found a flaw in SHA256.

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September 11, 2013, 06:42:21 PM
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Howdy.

Has anybody else's re-ward dropped over the last six or seven blocks or so? Is is just me? All my machines are online... weird... I'm still /relatively/ new at this, and don't understand everything. I guess it's just one of those things.

russell


r u talking daily hash reward? if that then. 11+ hour blocks do that.
if not then, Slush's total hashpower increasing decreases what u get for each block, if u dont increase with it.
Mine has gone up... but that is because I added 9 asics.

if u dont add anything it will continue to go down down down down... look at the network hash growth rate, the graph is a straight line upward. u cant win with that kind of growth without increasing your hash power to match haha... u just get dragged behind then kicked in the face
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September 12, 2013, 02:25:39 PM
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They WORK at Diff1.  cgminer/bfgminer is handing them diff2 work.  There's a difference.

Miner software just computes hashes, and then checks to see if the hashes are lower than the arbitrary submission difficulty you have selected (or the pool has autoselected). If you could create only diff1 shares then you'd have found a flaw in SHA256.

I get the sense they are complaining about this output that is coming from the miner software.
if you have 1 asic mining at 335mh/s the hash rate it is locked too. and your slush worker page says DIFF 1 and the slush worker page says your miner is hashing AROUND 335 +/-10% then minimize your mining window and play xbox or something.
this output below is asic miners... OMG my miner got issues a diff 46!!! someone help me!
IF an asic was really given DIFF over 1 u would be experiencing high rejections and would be no where near 335mh/s on your worker page. minimize go play xbox.


 [2013-09-12 10:15:43] Accepted 2bfa0fa9 ICA 0  Diff 5/3
 [2013-09-12 10:15:45] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update
 [2013-09-12 10:15:45] Accepted 0dfc4d3d ICA 5  Diff 18/3
 [2013-09-12 10:15:47] Accepted 50bcb34b ICA 0  Diff 3/3
 [2013-09-12 10:16:02] Accepted 1a3f0207 ICA 2  Diff 9/3
 [2013-09-12 10:16:02] Accepted 48bf2b0a ICA 0  Diff 3/3
 [2013-09-12 10:16:03] Accepted 0582f639 ICA 3  Diff 46/3
 [2013-09-12 10:16:14] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update
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September 12, 2013, 02:57:46 PM
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They WORK at Diff1.  cgminer/bfgminer is handing them diff2 work.  There's a difference.

Miner software just computes hashes, and then checks to see if the hashes are lower than the arbitrary submission difficulty you have selected (or the pool has autoselected). If you could create only diff1 shares then you'd have found a flaw in SHA256.

I get the sense they are complaining about this output that is coming from the miner software.
if you have 1 asic mining at 335mh/s the hash rate it is locked too. and your slush worker page says DIFF 1 and the slush worker page says your miner is hashing AROUND 335 +/-10% then minimize your mining window and play xbox or something.
this output below is asic miners... OMG my miner got issues a diff 46!!! someone help me!
IF an asic was really given DIFF over 1 u would be experiencing high rejections and would be no where near 335mh/s on your worker page. minimize go play xbox.


 [2013-09-12 10:15:43] Accepted 2bfa0fa9 ICA 0  Diff 5/3
 [2013-09-12 10:15:45] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update
 [2013-09-12 10:15:45] Accepted 0dfc4d3d ICA 5  Diff 18/3
 [2013-09-12 10:15:47] Accepted 50bcb34b ICA 0  Diff 3/3
 [2013-09-12 10:16:02] Accepted 1a3f0207 ICA 2  Diff 9/3
 [2013-09-12 10:16:02] Accepted 48bf2b0a ICA 0  Diff 3/3
 [2013-09-12 10:16:03] Accepted 0582f639 ICA 3  Diff 46/3
 [2013-09-12 10:16:14] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update
maybe you need to go play with your Xbox and stay out of a discussion you don't understand. Nobody here had the reaction of OMG anything. But all we were doing was talking about the fact the pool is auto adjusting the workers diff. I now have 50 USB miners all running under 1 worker so the 17ghs has my worker at a 9 diff.
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