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May 19, 2014, 10:03:03 PM
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My reward was also "cut in half".  Undecided
I raised a ticket, and things will be sorted out as usual. Roll Eyes

Yep 22106 was also half here..   email sent to support:)

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My payout was lower by 18% relatively to the proportional number of my shares.  A possible explanation to this is a sudden rise in the pool hash rate towards the end of the block, which decreases the payout of all the other miners (but at the same time make a significant contribution to solving that block faster).  Let's try to illustrate this with an example: 
The pool hash rate= 1800000 GH/s  Your hash rate=200 GH/s your expected reward=0.002777778 BTC
Now assume that Miner X joined the pool with 200000  GH/s a few minutes before the end of the block, due to Slush's 'anti-hopping' algorithm, Miner X's contribution receives almost full 'weight' despite occuring towards the end of the block, so the increased short-term hash rate at the end of the block is now 2000000  GH/s, your reward drops by 10% to 0.0025 BTC.  This is not due to any 'fault' at Slush.  Actually it might have been caused by a technical or other problem on one of the competing pools, which caused briefly a massive shift of miners to Slush as their 'backup pool'.
Just my 2 mbtc.
Enjoy the recent burst of solved blocks, which more than compensates for that 'disaster'...Smiley

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Very well said mate. Cheesy

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May 19, 2014, 10:54:44 PM
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Wouldn't it make more sense to reward a miner for the length of time it worked on a block?
That would deter switchers as well as not rewarding somebody who hopped in 5 minutes before a block was found.
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May 20, 2014, 01:17:22 AM
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My reward was also "cut in half".  Undecided
I raised a ticket, and things will be sorted out as usual. Roll Eyes

Yep 22106 was also half here..   email sent to support:)

Regards

M
My payout was lower by 18% relatively to the proportional number of my shares.  A possible explanation to this is a sudden rise in the pool hash rate towards the end of the block, which decreases the payout of all the other miners (but at the same time make a significant contribution to solving that block faster).  Let's try to illustrate this with an example:  
The pool hash rate= 1800000 GH/s  Your hash rate=200 GH/s your expected reward=0.002777778 BTC
Now assume that Miner X joined the pool with 200000  GH/s a few minutes before the end of the block, due to Slush's 'anti-hopping' algorithm, Miner X's contribution receives almost full 'weight' despite occuring towards the end of the block, so the increased short-term hash rate at the end of the block is now 2000000  GH/s, your reward drops by 10% to 0.0025 BTC.  This is not due to any 'fault' at Slush.  Actually it might have been caused by a technical or other problem on one of the competing pools, which caused briefly a massive shift of miners to Slush as their 'backup pool'.
Just my 2 mbtc.
Enjoy the recent burst of solved blocks, which more than compensates for that 'disaster'...Smiley

Cheers

My understanding was that the calc, assuming you are mining at the time the block is found (you havent had a blip in providing hash rate etc) is  my shares / pool shares * Block Value..  for a rough calc.  (not deducting fees here)

therefore for block 22106  :-

22106  2014-05-19 16:30:41  11:23:16  18010425802  3586935   0.00206705  301575  25.10258983  97 confirmations left

which makes the calc 0.0049994

The three previous blocks using the same calc would have been :-  

22105 I get  0.0048193
22104 I get  0.0049920
22103 I get  0.0049467

All very similar and in fact almost identical to what was paid out, as were the 4 blocks post 22106

Whilst I appreciate your point about another pool jumpin in, to halve the rate paid it would have had to be approx 1872607.589 Ghash/s jumping in..  approx the rate when the block was found I believe, to drop it 50% and the your shares / total shares dont give those values, and we have also had reports of people getting double payout on that block, so something is not quite right.

This has been happening a lot since we moved to 60 minute averages, in fact one block, for me, dropped from .0048 as the calc to 0.0009 as the reward.

Whilst I appreciate your suggestion, I think something more drastic happened in this case and may be symptomatic of other blocks like this in the recent past.

I know it's not a huge issue, but when you only make 0.1 BTC a week (on average), it's a bigger deal Smiley

Regards

M

PS  dont get me wrong, I love the block count this weekend, and I love this pool, but if theres a possible issue, I think it's only fair to investigate to see what actually happened.

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May 20, 2014, 01:36:26 AM
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So I see I wasn't the only one.  I was going to bring this up when I got home.  My portion was cut in half also.
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May 20, 2014, 01:46:26 AM
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Same here but it's been a good run thereafter.
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May 20, 2014, 02:29:06 AM
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yes i have had 2 very low points payouts today blocks 22106 and 22105.....both 50%
oh what i normally get......hopefully slush will correct this error....lol  Embarrassed Embarrassed

Same here, 50% of normal payout for 22106


my 200% more payout for 22106

in other block is normal payout

sounds like you got the jackpot!

normal payout is 0.00703204, in block 22106  first  0.02003204 down to payout 0.01350420

Why did my reward from block 22106 go from .04 to .01 just now
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May 20, 2014, 03:54:22 AM
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yes i have had 2 very low points payouts today blocks 22106 and 22105.....both 50%
oh what i normally get......hopefully slush will correct this error....lol  Embarrassed Embarrassed

Same here, 50% of normal payout for 22106


my 200% more payout for 22106

in other block is normal payout

sounds like you got the jackpot!

normal payout is 0.00703204, in block 22106  first  0.02003204 down to payout 0.01350420

Why did my reward from block 22106 go from .04 to .01 just now

heh, mine went back up to my avg. payout amount Cheesy

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May 20, 2014, 04:07:00 AM
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yes i have had 2 very low points payouts today blocks 22106 and 22105.....both 50%
oh what i normally get......hopefully slush will correct this error....lol  Embarrassed Embarrassed

Same here, 50% of normal payout for 22106


my 200% more payout for 22106

in other block is normal payout

sounds like you got the jackpot!

normal payout is 0.00703204, in block 22106  first  0.02003204 down to payout 0.01350420

Why did my reward from block 22106 go from .04 to .01 just now

heh, mine went back up to my avg. payout amount Cheesy

I knew my .04 payout was too good to be true
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May 20, 2014, 07:14:58 AM
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My reward was also "cut in half".  Undecided
I raised a ticket, and things will be sorted out as usual. Roll Eyes

Yep 22106 was also half here..   email sent to support:)

Regards

M
My payout was lower by 18% relatively to the proportional number of my shares.  A possible explanation to this is a sudden rise in the pool hash rate towards the end of the block, which decreases the payout of all the other miners (but at the same time make a significant contribution to solving that block faster).  Let's try to illustrate this with an example:  
The pool hash rate= 1800000 GH/s  Your hash rate=200 GH/s your expected reward=0.002777778 BTC
Now assume that Miner X joined the pool with 200000  GH/s a few minutes before the end of the block, due to Slush's 'anti-hopping' algorithm, Miner X's contribution receives almost full 'weight' despite occuring towards the end of the block, so the increased short-term hash rate at the end of the block is now 2000000  GH/s, your reward drops by 10% to 0.0025 BTC.  This is not due to any 'fault' at Slush.  Actually it might have been caused by a technical or other problem on one of the competing pools, which caused briefly a massive shift of miners to Slush as their 'backup pool'.
Just my 2 mbtc.
Enjoy the recent burst of solved blocks, which more than compensates for that 'disaster'...Smiley

Cheers

My understanding was that the calc, assuming you are mining at the time the block is found (you havent had a blip in providing hash rate etc) is  my shares / pool shares * Block Value..  for a rough calc.  (not deducting fees here)

therefore for block 22106  :-

22106  2014-05-19 16:30:41  11:23:16  18010425802  3586935   0.00206705  301575  25.10258983  97 confirmations left

which makes the calc 0.0049994

The three previous blocks using the same calc would have been :-  

22105 I get  0.0048193
22104 I get  0.0049920
22103 I get  0.0049467

All very similar and in fact almost identical to what was paid out, as were the 4 blocks post 22106

Whilst I appreciate your point about another pool jumpin in, to halve the rate paid it would have had to be approx 1872607.589 Ghash/s jumping in..  approx the rate when the block was found I believe, to drop it 50% and the your shares / total shares dont give those values, and we have also had reports of people getting double payout on that block, so something is not quite right.

This has been happening a lot since we moved to 60 minute averages, in fact one block, for me, dropped from .0048 as the calc to 0.0009 as the reward.

Whilst I appreciate your suggestion, I think something more drastic happened in this case and may be symptomatic of other blocks like this in the recent past.

I know it's not a huge issue, but when you only make 0.1 BTC a week (on average), it's a bigger deal Smiley

Regards

M

PS  dont get me wrong, I love the block count this weekend, and I love this pool, but if theres a possible issue, I think it's only fair to investigate to see what actually happened.


Apologies, my theory was sound, however in this case Slush made compensation adjustments, and now my reward for 22106 is about 1% above my 'proportional share', which is within the common variance.
I hope that your reward got fixed as well.

Cheers
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May 20, 2014, 08:10:42 AM
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Is there a way to see all my rewards and when i got them?  The statistics page only shows the last few days worth.

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May 20, 2014, 08:38:14 AM
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Is there a way to see all my rewards and when i got them?  The statistics page only shows the last few days worth.

View the payout history page yo

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May 20, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
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Is there a way to see all my rewards and when i got them?  The statistics page only shows the last few days worth.

View the payout history page yo

That is just when you get paid isn't it?  I mean a list of my contributions towards blocks and their rewards.  With the JSON on the statistics page, can you specify a start and end date?

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May 20, 2014, 09:23:49 AM
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That is just when you get paid isn't it?  I mean a list of my contributions towards blocks and their rewards.  With the JSON on the statistics page, can you specify a start and end date?
Add ?history=xxx to show xxx rounds
https://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/?history=100
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May 20, 2014, 09:54:23 AM
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That is just when you get paid isn't it?  I mean a list of my contributions towards blocks and their rewards.  With the JSON on the statistics page, can you specify a start and end date?
Add ?history=xxx to show xxx rounds
https://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/?history=100
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https://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/json/?history=100

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May 20, 2014, 10:22:36 AM
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Apologies, my theory was sound, however in this case Slush made compensation adjustments, and now my reward for 22106 is about 1% above my 'proportional share', which is within the common variance.
I hope that your reward got fixed as well.

Cheers

No need to apologise, I agree with you and had mine only been around 10 - 15% I would have assumed normal variance as well Smiley

Yes, it has been adjusted, thanks to Slush..  its now back inside normal variance.

Interesting how much the pool size has grown over the last month..  just that rise in itself has lowered the whole average reward some 15% or so from a couple of weeks ago..   Good to see the arms race is still fully funded Smiley

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May 20, 2014, 10:38:07 AM
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Anyone else has problems with last payout?

I can see in my payout history entry from 6:02 and with exact same time in my wallet. But last payout is in history at 10:05 but nothing in my wallet and nothing in blockchain for my address - even if this transaction should have allready few confirmations?!
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May 20, 2014, 12:39:28 PM
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Same!  The transaction isn't even showing up on the blockchain, so was it not yet sent?

I'd really appreciate a reply, as my payout was for 0.31058082 BTC! 1vHgvrkfzxg1JU2wzR5RRbGJhAjUrZwJm

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May 20, 2014, 02:59:19 PM
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 :'(Same!  The transaction isn't even showing up on the blockchain, so was it not yet sent?

I'd really appreciate a reply, as my payout was for 0.62437546 BTC! 1JZo1DMU4pXWHgZ9bkXL7PT2bS7xsFQAVo
                                                                    0.30991204 BTC! 1MukuSj5KcPwPdfbCzWxDGaXP2dptXHWBN
                                                                    0.18263492 BTC! 13eJMjqfj5GTkg9BJERpvCTNSf8K8vJUnS
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May 20, 2014, 03:06:11 PM
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So... Was/is there an actual systemic problem with the block rewards or not? I see here where some people's rewards have been "corrected" but was/is this an issue for everyone?

fyi... I was fiddling with my miners this past weekend so all my rewards are going to be out of variance anyway or I would have my answer already...

Thanks!

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May 20, 2014, 04:03:48 PM
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I didn't receive the last payout either..  can someone from slush verify?
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