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June 07, 2014, 11:23:42 PM
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Anybody else notice how every evening (CST) the hash rate jumps up to around 32+ from the 26 to 28 rate? Seems like this has been going on for the last 4 days or so. Is Ghash crashing everyday or something?

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June 08, 2014, 12:29:59 AM
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Anybody else notice how every evening (CST) the hash rate jumps up to around 32+ from the 26 to 28 rate? Seems like this has been going on for the last 4 days or so. Is Ghash crashing everyday or something?

I noticed the same thing during the day Hash rate is near normal 26-28 and during evening/night jumps to 30+.... this is annoying, my rewards are impacted (from 3/4 to 1/2)
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June 08, 2014, 04:06:29 AM
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Yep, same here and it is beginning to suck. Thing is that the solve rate doesn't seem to be any faster just lower payouts.

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June 08, 2014, 04:29:51 AM
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Yep, same here and it is beginning to suck. Thing is that the solve rate doesn't seem to be any faster just lower payouts.

Solve rate is up a tad....we solved about 15% more today than our recent avg

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June 08, 2014, 10:45:02 PM
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Anybody's else payouts stuck?

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June 08, 2014, 11:30:16 PM
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I think a slow ramp up in reward for those joining in the middle of a block would deter hoppers and reward the loyal, kind of reverse of what we have now.

Wait, do people not know how this pool scoring works?

Shares contributed at the very start of the window come easily, they have a low computational cost, and therefore, a lower score.  Shares later cost more to calculate, and so have a higher score.  Each hash is scored, the sum of all the hash scores added up, the block reward divided up (minus the pool fee) between all scores, and you get the proprtion of (your score / pool score) for a given block.

The only way someone jumping in at the end of the block gets the same reward as someone that started at the beginning is if that person has VASTLY more compute power available - and in that case, if they'd been in at the start of the block, they have gotten way more than the original full-time person anyway, because they calculate more hashes per second.
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June 08, 2014, 11:37:31 PM
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I think a slow ramp up in reward for those joining in the middle of a block would deter hoppers and reward the loyal, kind of reverse of what we have now.

Wait, do people not know how this pool scoring works?

Shares contributed at the very start of the window come easily, they have a low computational cost, and therefore, a lower score.  Shares later cost more to calculate, and so have a higher score.  Each hash is scored, the sum of all the hash scores added up, the block reward divided up (minus the pool fee) between all scores, and you get the proprtion of (your score / pool score) for a given block.

The only way someone jumping in at the end of the block gets the same reward as someone that started at the beginning is if that person has VASTLY more compute power available - and in that case, if they'd been in at the start of the block, they have gotten way more than the original full-time person anyway, because they calculate more hashes per second.

Uhmm...your entire first bit is completely wrong.  The shares do not come more easily or take any more time to calculate at any point during the round.  Score based payment is purely a way to discourage people from leaving the pool, by making your previous work worthless.  The work done is no harder at any point in a round.

The slush payment method is hoppable, though not as badly as the old proportional systems.  However, the concept of pool hopping to increase profits is basically dead since there are no pools large enough with a hoppable method to make it worth the trouble.

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June 08, 2014, 11:38:05 PM
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Many of us slush pool regulars have noticed when a pool/group of miners (or even a single miner with huge hashrate) failes over to the slush pool...those of us mining regularly almost always see our estimated payouts (for current round) decrease almost immediately after previously mentioned miners failover etc.

Just saying. I am not switching anytime soon.

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June 09, 2014, 12:14:50 AM
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Agreed on both counts.

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June 09, 2014, 02:39:43 AM
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what really sucks about slush method is if your miner goes down in last part of round and you don't catch it in time, you get nothing for last 6hrs or work,, DOH!  Embarrassed
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June 09, 2014, 05:58:30 AM
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what really sucks about slush method is if your miner goes down in last part of round and you don't catch it in time, you get nothing for last 6hrs or work,, DOH!  Embarrassed
Agreed happened 2 times for me .. the last time , connection bugged 4 minutes before end of block Angry
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June 09, 2014, 10:15:00 AM
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22221    2014-06-09 08:07:48    3:24:06    8501589349    804777    0.00437127    304916    25.00466351    89 confirmations left
22220    2014-06-09 04:43:42    3:04:24    7980279619    764631    0.00000000    304891    25.12988034    64 confirmations left
22219    2014-06-09 01:39:18    6:34:46    17918206763    3065284    0.00367330    304872    25.00080000    45 confirmations left


hmm...not at home ...checking remotely..but the one before and after are fine...weird...anyone else seeing the same?

not a big deal..but problems that show up resolve (on the next run thru) themselves are always a bit odd

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June 09, 2014, 11:29:23 AM
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Similar here and there is a spike on my backup pool, so it was caused from a connectivity problems (from EU?) to the pool

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June 09, 2014, 12:52:40 PM
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Similar here and there is a spike on my backup pool, so it was caused from a connectivity problems (from EU?) to the pool

well hate to punt to you i work nites and have to crash..never made a ticket...could you do so please? for anyone else lurking on here with same problem as well? if not no big deal...but don't want to deal with this now on no sleep

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June 09, 2014, 01:03:46 PM
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Similar here and there is a spike on my backup pool, so it was caused from a connectivity problems (from EU?) to the pool

well hate to punt to you i work nites and have to crash..never made a ticket...could you do so please? for anyone else lurking on here with same problem as well? if not no big deal...but don't want to deal with this now on no sleep

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#22220 was normal for me, dunno if a ticket will do it for you
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June 09, 2014, 01:26:35 PM
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It's not a pool problem, so there is no need of ticket.

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June 09, 2014, 06:33:00 PM
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Hi all, I started yesterday mining primarily on slush's pool. I'm too new to know what happened but I woke to alarms from my AntMiner S2 in the middle of the night (06:00 GMT). It was practically stopped, not recovering but saying both pools were still live. Not thinking well I didn't save details (how is the best way?), thought I saw things like one fan rpm too low, but the max temp reading was 53c so not overheated.

Finally rebooted the whole miner then it came up saying slush's was dead and went to work on my backup pool (wasn't about to swith until I manually rebooted). Hours later I checked, slush's was back up hashing.

Could this be related to trouble seen by others or just me?

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June 09, 2014, 06:52:34 PM
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the one before and after are fine
If you calculate the number of your shares as a percentage of the total for each round, you will see that it is nearly double for 22219 compared to the two following rounds.  That suggests to me that something somewhere borked, maybe more than once.  It's possible that it happened very close to the end of 22219, recovered and failed again during 22220, and finally recovered partway through 22221;  that pattern could account for no reward in 22220, and the reward in 22221 being higher than 22219 despite having a smaller percentage of shares.

My own stats also show a big drop in shares credited during 22220, although my reward fell to about 1/3 normal which is at least better than zero; my rewards for 22219 and 22221 look okay.

At the time of writing my hash rate for both Slush and BTCguild is running at about half of what it should be, even allowing for the busy time of day (evening in the UK), but Scryptguild is chugging away happily using the GPU on the same PC.  Knowing my luck, we'll have a run of success while my hash rate is bumping along the floor.

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June 10, 2014, 05:57:53 AM
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#22220
Similar here and there is a spike on my backup pool, so it was caused from a connectivity problems (from EU?) to the pool

well hate to punt to you i work nites and have to crash..never made a ticket...could you do so please? for anyone else lurking on here with same problem as well? if not no big deal...but don't want to deal with this now on no sleep

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#22220 was normal for me, dunno if a ticket will do it for you


well ok i guess my oct 18th 2013 arrived knc jupiter can 'fart' occasionally (i guess the hamster(s) needed a break).... only 2nd time that has happened...lost info on the unit 1x last fall...and now this...anyway....just asking cause it was not a normal power outage or whatever because the blocks before and after were fine...go figure

(them asic hamsters are touchy)

thanks for the clarification

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June 10, 2014, 11:09:43 AM
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Hello,

Been lurking and learning for a few weeks now, many thanks to all

Especially Slush.

After reading almost every page on this forum, I had to try mining here with my toe in the water small GH's gear I have.


Just wondering, would this be right?

#         Block  found at             Duration  Total shares   Your shares  Your BTC reward        Block #   Block value      Validity
22226  2014-06-10 03:14:38   3:18:35   9563495994    14479        0.00000000    305045    5.04513457     48 confirmations left 
22225  2014-06-09 23:56:03   4:17:19   11609230034  57226         0.00010413              305015    25.06742319    18 confirmations left 
22224  2014-06-09 19:38:44   2:55:07   7693084370    38103         0.00011145              304978    25.06132271    confirmed 

First time I have seen no reward for a round with shares in my stats.

Many thanks
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