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March 14, 2014, 07:40:30 PM
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Don't we want the hash rate to be less so we get more payout?
It doesn't matter as long as we can find at least few block before the difficulty change.

If the hashrate is lower - you get more, but less often.
If the hashrate is higher - you get less, but more often.

The outcome is the same and your daily reward is always ~= <your hashrate>/<network hashrate>*144*<block reward> (currently 25BTC)

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March 14, 2014, 07:43:31 PM
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I should be joining you guys monday night with my Ant miner!!!
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March 14, 2014, 08:03:01 PM
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Average CAPTCHA luck trending well below 100%... we should all move to a better pool.
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March 14, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
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Don't we want the hash rate to be less so we get more payout?
It doesn't matter as long as we can find at least few block before the difficulty change.

If the hashrate is lower - you get more, but less often.
If the hashrate is higher - you get less, but more often.

The outcome is the same and your daily reward is always ~= <your hashrate>/<network hashrate>*144*<block reward> (currently 25BTC)
While in theory and overall they may be true. With slush, it seems like we get the same amount of rounds if we are at 800 or 1000 TH/s yet the payouts are reduced by 20%
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March 14, 2014, 09:20:39 PM
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Don't we want the hash rate to be less so we get more payout?
It doesn't matter as long as we can find at least few block before the difficulty change.

If the hashrate is lower - you get more, but less often.
If the hashrate is higher - you get less, but more often.

The outcome is the same and your daily reward is always ~= <your hashrate>/<network hashrate>*144*<block reward> (currently 25BTC)
While in theory and overall they may be true. With slush, it seems like we get the same amount of rounds if we are at 800 or 1000 TH/s yet the payouts are reduced by 20%

That's because the total network hash rate is increasing too. If slush percentage (about 3-4%) of the total network hash rate remains the same and you stand still with your hash rate, then you will slowly but surely see your dividends decrease.

[edit] see here http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate

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March 14, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
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Why is that CAPTCHA so insanely difficult?

I had to try at least 10 times before getting it right this time.



I'd say about 50% of the time I get it right on the first try.
35% it takes two tries
10% three tries
5% 5 tries.


It seems to be very moody.

It is hellish. I am dyslexic, and have 20/950 vision. My nose has literally hit the screen before when trying to get the damn thing right. I'm not sure why we even need one, these are not the codes that launch nukes or anything. Jeezus.

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March 14, 2014, 10:52:07 PM
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My nose has literally hit the screen before when trying to get the damn thing right. I'm not sure why we even need one, these are not the codes that launch nukes or anything.
I'm also not sure why we need one (if we have locked the payout address, that is) and it's a pain.

But have you tried zooming in to get a magnified view?  If your mouse has a scroll wheel, hold the Ctrl key down while rolling the wheel to zoom in or out.  Ctrl + and Ctrl - also zoom, and Ctrl 0 (zero) restores to the default.

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March 15, 2014, 12:07:50 AM
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Why is that CAPTCHA so insanely difficult?

I had to try at least 10 times before getting it right this time.



I'd say about 50% of the time I get it right on the first try.
35% it takes two tries
10% three tries
5% 5 tries.


It seems to be very moody.

It is hellish. I am dyslexic, and have 20/950 vision. My nose has literally hit the screen before when trying to get the damn thing right. I'm not sure why we even need one, these are not the codes that launch nukes or anything. Jeezus.

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March 15, 2014, 12:17:59 AM
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Always was fine, then it stop minning, any idea?

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March 15, 2014, 07:32:28 AM
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Slush block # 21820 invalid? What causes this  Huh
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March 15, 2014, 08:36:13 AM
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Slush block # 21820 invalid? What causes this  Huh


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March 15, 2014, 11:29:58 AM
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right on the main page, on the side where it says Knowledgebase
http://support.bitcoin.cz/Knowledgebase/List

fucking over run with newbs and stupid questions. Doesn't anyone read or do any research anymore???

Nope, don't see anything where it is explained where one could have a close to typical number of shares and be rewarded 0. Lots of other good info though. And if all questions were answered before asked one wouldn't need support forums, now would we? n00b.

Back to my original post...my split of hashing with BTC Guild and Slush were equal for 5 weeks. But the last 8 days, BTC Guild payed out 3/5 of what I made here at Slush for the same hash power on both.


FFS!! http://support.bitcoin.cz/Knowledgebase/Article/View/32/1/score-based-reward-system ! Read this entire thread and then tell me you don't know what's happening. Or better yet, read anything.
And if all questions were researched before asked one wouldn't need support forums. unless they have never been answered (everyone needs support forums)

Nope you still don't get it. But keep trying, most people are nice on this forum and are helpful if you ask. I read that link. "The basic idea is that older shares (from beginning of the round) have lower weight than newer shares. " Nowhere does it say if I am offline for 2 hours out of a 10 hour block my share is 0. If read correctly I should have had some small payout.
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March 15, 2014, 12:12:58 PM
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Nope you still don't get it. But keep trying, most people are nice on this forum and are helpful if you ask. I read that link. "The basic idea is that older shares (from beginning of the round) have lower weight than newer shares. " Nowhere does it say if I am offline for 2 hours out of a 10 hour block my share is 0. If read correctly I should have had some small payout.

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Full ack!

Although the process is nicely described and mathematically correct (albeit the current "C" decay variable being completely unknown, as it is described as subject to change), it doesn't give much practical info to a beginner new at the pool.
And indeed it nowhere states :
- leave the pool for ~30 Minutes and lose your entire shares reward (regardless of number of shares delivered)
- jump in anytime for a mere ~30 Minutes and get full reward based on your GH/s performance  (even if you participated only in 10% or less of a round total time, doesn't matter)

Took me a while to find out just how ultra-sensitive and extreme the anti-hopping logic treats the score.
After understanding the extreme asymmetry, of course the understanding for the expected score/reward came. Still, I'm not surprised seeing questions still popping up (i.e. I gave 100000 shares to a round but literally got nothing ?!), they're still legit and understandable.

All the rest would be philosophy (i.e. is the extreme anti-poolhopping sensitivity justified? etc.) and I won't go into that - things are the way they are. They work, so one can get used to them. That's why I'm still there, slush is still my favorite pool.

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March 15, 2014, 12:15:15 PM
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Nowhere does it say if I am offline for 2 hours out of a 10 hour block my share is 0. If read correctly I should have had some small payout.
That's right. You have some small payout (0.000000000001), but the reward is rounded to 8 decimal places

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March 15, 2014, 06:58:54 PM
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what is the next step up from Antminer S1's???

anything yet? CoinTerra 2 th/s?
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March 15, 2014, 07:21:43 PM
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what is the next step up from Antminer S1's???

anything yet? CoinTerra 2 th/s?

S2 ?

https://bitmaintech.com/product.htm

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March 15, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
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I'd wait for gen3 Asicminer systems. If they meet their spec it's going to be tough to compete given they should also have a cost advantage doing so on 40nm process node.

Bitmain is chaining more of their current ASICs in the S2 which given it's price point for the time of delivery isn't significantly less than likely the same hash would be if they are still offering the S1 at the rate of price reductions they are going through. The only significant advantage in price may be the integrated power supply.
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March 15, 2014, 08:21:36 PM
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Does the pool still do merge mining?
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March 15, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
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Does the pool still do merge mining?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

I believe they did up to the point the pool switched from getwork to stratum protocol.
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March 15, 2014, 09:08:41 PM
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Does the pool still do merge mining?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

I believe they did up to the point the pool switched from getwork to stratum protocol.

Ahh okay
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