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March 15, 2014, 12:12:58 PM
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Nope you still don't get it. But keep trying, most people are nice on this forum and are helpful if you ask. I read that link. "The basic idea is that older shares (from beginning of the round) have lower weight than newer shares. " Nowhere does it say if I am offline for 2 hours out of a 10 hour block my share is 0. If read correctly I should have had some small payout.

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Full ack!

Although the process is nicely described and mathematically correct (albeit the current "C" decay variable being completely unknown, as it is described as subject to change), it doesn't give much practical info to a beginner new at the pool.
And indeed it nowhere states :
- leave the pool for ~30 Minutes and lose your entire shares reward (regardless of number of shares delivered)
- jump in anytime for a mere ~30 Minutes and get full reward based on your GH/s performance  (even if you participated only in 10% or less of a round total time, doesn't matter)

Took me a while to find out just how ultra-sensitive and extreme the anti-hopping logic treats the score.
After understanding the extreme asymmetry, of course the understanding for the expected score/reward came. Still, I'm not surprised seeing questions still popping up (i.e. I gave 100000 shares to a round but literally got nothing ?!), they're still legit and understandable.

All the rest would be philosophy (i.e. is the extreme anti-poolhopping sensitivity justified? etc.) and I won't go into that - things are the way they are. They work, so one can get used to them. That's why I'm still there, slush is still my favorite pool.

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March 15, 2014, 12:15:15 PM
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Nowhere does it say if I am offline for 2 hours out of a 10 hour block my share is 0. If read correctly I should have had some small payout.
That's right. You have some small payout (0.000000000001), but the reward is rounded to 8 decimal places

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March 15, 2014, 06:58:54 PM
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what is the next step up from Antminer S1's???

anything yet? CoinTerra 2 th/s?
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March 15, 2014, 07:21:43 PM
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what is the next step up from Antminer S1's???

anything yet? CoinTerra 2 th/s?

S2 ?

https://bitmaintech.com/product.htm

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March 15, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
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I'd wait for gen3 Asicminer systems. If they meet their spec it's going to be tough to compete given they should also have a cost advantage doing so on 40nm process node.

Bitmain is chaining more of their current ASICs in the S2 which given it's price point for the time of delivery isn't significantly less than likely the same hash would be if they are still offering the S1 at the rate of price reductions they are going through. The only significant advantage in price may be the integrated power supply.
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March 15, 2014, 08:21:36 PM
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Does the pool still do merge mining?
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March 15, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
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Does the pool still do merge mining?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

I believe they did up to the point the pool switched from getwork to stratum protocol.
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March 15, 2014, 09:08:41 PM
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Does the pool still do merge mining?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Comparison_of_mining_pools

I believe they did up to the point the pool switched from getwork to stratum protocol.

Ahh okay
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March 16, 2014, 07:53:24 AM
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From https://www.facebook.com/MiningBitcoinCz
FB: "a short outtage of our US datacenter has caused a short drop in hashrate. We are searching for alternatives to have the mining cluster more reliable"

A short drop in hashrate?  The avg 30min hashrate dropped below 100ghs from what I saw.  The pool mining addresses were a black hole on the internet.  Ironically, as I was typing this, all of my miners had to reset and reconnnect.  Doesn't seem like it's 100% fixed yet.  Payouts have also decreased.  Have considered moving rigs to another pool til slush sorts it out.  Have been here since I started mining with cpu.  Will hate to have to move due to unreliability.
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March 16, 2014, 10:36:07 AM
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I also noted my lower payouts - then checked the pool's hashrate : went up to a whopping 1089 GH/s in almost no time, easily explaining my lower share in the total pie.

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March 16, 2014, 05:17:44 PM
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I also noted my lower payouts - then checked the pool's hashrate : went up to a whopping 1089 GH/s in almost no time, easily explaining my lower share in the total pie.

Yeah, it's kind of disheartening on a level.
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March 16, 2014, 05:18:28 PM
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Nice, thanks for the update! We're soo close to 1,000,000 GH/s!!!
... and now we are there.  1000376 a few minutes ago.

edit: ... and still climbing.  To think it was around 9500 when I started mining...

Looks like we blew through that and still have momentum. I don't mind more blocks with smaller payouts. The long waits can be discouraging but I do prefer the pool and in spite of some glitches here and there.
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March 16, 2014, 05:18:45 PM
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I also noted my lower payouts - then checked the pool's hashrate : went up to a whopping 1089 GH/s in almost no time, easily explaining my lower share in the total pie.

Yeah, it's kind of disheartening on a level.

It has me doing a miner shuffle.

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March 16, 2014, 09:20:43 PM
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what is the next step up from Antminer S1's???

anything yet? CoinTerra 2 th/s?

S2 ?

https://bitmaintech.com/product.htm

Oh! 3599 USD
Hrmmm.....
  damn pyramid scheme! I cant be dishing out that many thousand! sigh! Wink

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March 16, 2014, 11:43:31 PM
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That's a big jump in hash rate for slush in just 2 or 3 days - must be 0.3 PH/s or more added...

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March 16, 2014, 11:54:47 PM
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Hi
Started mining here last week and have a question about payouts:
Block 21835 shares 24,610,773 reward .05694150
Block 21824 shares 22,496,268 reward .06928195

Same hash rate, is this because the pool total hash rate is increasing?

Thanks
 
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March 17, 2014, 12:11:06 AM
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Hi
Started mining here last week and have a question about payouts:
Block 21835 shares 24,610,773 reward .05694150
Block 21824 shares 22,496,268 reward .06928195

Same hash rate, is this because the pool total hash rate is increasing?

Thanks
 

Yes.

If slush's pool hashrate increases and the network hashrate stays the same (in other words people shifting existing miners to slush), and your hashrate stays the same:
then
     You find more blocks per day but your share descreases - effect is same amount of coins on average per day.

If slush's pool hashrate stays the same but the network hashrate increases (in other words new miners are added to the network and no new miners added to slush), and your hashrate stays the same:
then
     You find the less blocks per day and your share descreases - effect is decreasing amount of coins on average per day.

If slush's pool hashrate increases and the network hashrate increases too (in other words new miners are added to the network and new miners added to slush), and your hashrate stays the same:
then
     You find the same blocks per day but your share descreases - effect is decreasing amount of coins on average per day.

Moral of the story is...

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March 17, 2014, 02:10:34 AM
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Quite the decrease for pulling 2,000,000 more shares...mining is quite deppressing Roll Eyes
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March 17, 2014, 02:39:48 AM
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People have got to lose interest in throwing more and more money at it at some point one would think and especially if BTC goes down in value.
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March 17, 2014, 03:08:54 PM
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     Is anyone else out there noticing a radical drop in individual hashing rate? BFGminer is reporting that I'm hashing the tail off of my tiny little ANTminer U1's and ASICminer 336MH/s devices typically total output of 6GH/s to 6.5GH/s and Slush is only reporting 3.5GH/s on current round and my 10 round avg is dropping as rounds cook off. Just noticed this as we broke the PH/s for the Pool, and don't understand the relevance? As an undesireable side effect, my payouts are similarly lower (nearly 50% lower), and I can relate that with higher Pool Hash rates, my tiny share is lower proportionally, but not by the nearly 50% as I'm seeing. I'm seeing fewer than .1% rejected shares, and lower than .3% HW errors, so I can't attribute it to anything on my end of the equation. Can anyone please enlighten me?

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Late update. Not a pool related issue, but a power starved Antminer U1. Replaced power adapter for USB Hub and all is well in the household once again. Sorry if alarm bells went off for anyone. Once again, it's the newby not properly checking out his own side of the setup thoroughly. But then again, that's how newbies gain experience. Thanks to all for allowing me to resolve issue on my own.
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