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March 25, 2014, 05:37:27 AM
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yay a quick round
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March 25, 2014, 05:53:16 AM
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Difficulty jump was just 18% to 5006860589, so the great flood of hyper-TH miners has not reached the shores yet... Smiley
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March 25, 2014, 06:24:34 AM
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Difficulty jump was just 18% to 5006860589, so the great flood of hyper-TH miners has not reached the shores yet... Smiley
Think exponential function. That amounts to adding about 7000TH. Are you sure you don't call this a lot?

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March 25, 2014, 07:54:08 AM
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Difficulty jump was just 18% to 5006860589, so the great flood of hyper-TH miners has not reached the shores yet... Smiley
Think exponential function. That amounts to adding about 7000TH. Are you sure you don't call this a lot?

7PH seems small to what's coming

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March 25, 2014, 08:31:48 AM
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Difficulty jump was just 18% to 5006860589, so the great flood of hyper-TH miners has not reached the shores yet... Smiley
Think exponential function. That amounts to adding about 7000TH. Are you sure you don't call this a lot?

7PH seems small to what's coming
As reward has a linear relation to the difficulty value, this increase means that for the same hash rate, the reward will decrease by 18%.  Or if you want to maintain the reward rate, you need to increase the hash rate by about 22%.

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March 25, 2014, 08:54:03 AM
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4 good blocks overnight  Shocked(gmt uk), lets see if we hit 6-8 blocks today here's hoping,
as we are well below the weekly average, only got 20 blocks last 5 days Undecided....
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March 25, 2014, 10:10:59 AM
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good another block looks like our luck might come up a bit
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March 25, 2014, 01:07:22 PM
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OOoh lots of blocks /cheer
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March 25, 2014, 01:33:11 PM
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My USB miners were lit up solid lights this morning. So I restart BFGMiner and now I can't connect to the pool. Any idea why?  Credentials are fine. Wondering what's up never had this issue before.
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March 25, 2014, 02:05:47 PM
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WTF... why did the difficulty jump up so high! Shocked

Not fair to those who are just starting...
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March 25, 2014, 02:13:44 PM
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WTF... why did the difficulty jump up so high! Shocked

Not fair to those who are just starting...

Cause more people are starting.... Grin
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March 25, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
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So, I understand that over time the difficulty will continue to rise and therefore people will increase their hash rates to keep up... But is there an time in BitCoin future where there will be no more ROI for mining? How long will profitability continue?
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March 25, 2014, 02:21:31 PM
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So, I understand that over time the difficulty will continue to rise and therefore people will increase their hash rates to keep up... But is there an time in BitCoin future where there will be no more ROI for mining? How long will profitability continue?

need to use your 1337 math skillz to answer that one

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March 25, 2014, 02:25:39 PM
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So, I understand that over time the difficulty will continue to rise and therefore people will increase their hash rates to keep up... But is there an time in BitCoin future where there will be no more ROI for mining? How long will profitability continue?

Peercoin Wink, also there will always be transaction fee payouts!
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March 25, 2014, 03:13:06 PM
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Another noob question... god I hate being a noob! lol...  Cheesy

Your bitcoin wallet does not have to be online for a transaction? Example: when Slush's Pool sends your rewards. Its wrapped up in a block transaction and next time your wallet is online and updates it should show there?

Is that right?
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March 25, 2014, 03:14:23 PM
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ROI is just one model of thinking about mining. It is not the only one that make sense. An auto mechanic, plumber, electrician, or any skilled worker needs tools to accomplish their jobs and earn income. They have to purchase their tools upfront. While they can and do write the tools off for tax purposes, their goal is not to have a return on investment on their tools, their goal is too earn an income. They do not usually look at their paycheck and say, I haven't made any money yet because i have not made enough money that covers the cost of their tools (unless they borrowed the money but that is another issue).

Mining equipment is a tool to earn money. And unless you are amortizing the cost of mining equipment over time then you are wasting time thinking in terms of ROI. The value of equipment usually goes down over time. None of the calculators seem to be accounting for that. They keep the cost of equipment the same over whatever time period you are looking at for ROI. That is ridiculous and makes no accounting sense at all. And another thing is that the value of your mining equipment can actually either stay stable or increase based on the demand for equipment that is directly linked to the price of BTC (if it goes up, you mining equipment becomes more valuable because of its ability to always earn BTC no matter the price).

This doesn't mean you ignore the cost of mining equipment or do not factor it in to your finances. But the equipment is analogous to buying a car in addition to the tools analogy above. I get a certain value from using a car that is not directly related or impacted by the cost of the car. A car is a big money hole. It decreases in value over time and I have to keep putting money into it to keep in running in order to get the non-monetary value I get from its use.

I mine to make an income period and the rigs are the tools that allow me to do that. I do not consider recovering the cost of my tools as primary.
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March 25, 2014, 03:22:24 PM
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Another noob question... god I hate being a noob! lol...  Cheesy

Your bitcoin wallet does not have to be online for a transaction? Example: when Slush's Pool sends your rewards. Its wrapped up in a block transaction and next time your wallet is online and updates it should show there?

Is that right?
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March 25, 2014, 03:29:51 PM
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ROI is just one model of thinking about mining. It is not the only one that make sense. An auto mechanic, plumber, electrician, or any skilled worker needs tools to accomplish their jobs and earn income. They have to purchase their tools upfront. While they can and do write the tools off for tax purposes, their goal is not to have a return on investment on their tools, their goal is too earn an income. They do not usually look at their paycheck and say, I haven't made any money yet because i have not made enough money that covers the cost of their tools (unless they borrowed the money but that is another issue).

Mining equipment is a tool to earn money. And unless you are amortizing the cost of mining equipment over time then you are wasting time thinking in terms of ROI. The value of equipment usually goes down over time. None of the calculators seem to be accounting for that. They keep the cost of equipment the same over whatever time period you are looking at for ROI. That is ridiculous and makes no accounting sense at all. And another thing is that the value of your mining equipment can actually either stay stable or increase based on the demand for equipment that is directly linked to the price of BTC (if it goes up, you mining equipment becomes more valuable because of its ability to always earn BTC no matter the price).

This doesn't mean you ignore the cost of mining equipment or do not factor it in to your finances. But the equipment is analogous to buying a car in addition to the tools analogy above. I get a certain value from using a car that is not directly related or impacted by the cost of the car. A car is a big money hole. It decreases in value over time and I have to keep putting money into it to keep in running in order to get the non-monetary value I get from its use.

I mine to make an income period and the rigs are the tools that allow me to do that. I do not consider recovering the cost of my tools as primary.

Great explanation! Thanks for taking the time to write that up. Thats kind of how I was thinking about it...
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March 25, 2014, 05:48:38 PM
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So at what rate are you hashing? Just want to see what levels people are at...
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March 25, 2014, 06:12:53 PM
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So at what rate are you hashing? Just want to see what levels people are at...

I'm near 200 GH/s, burning about 800W.   Currently making about 4 mBTC a round.
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