[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool

[kkurtmann]

I don't understand how bitminter can win block 312400 and our find becomes orphaned.

Slush reported 312400 at

2014-07-25 09:02:11

Bitminter reported 312400 at

2014-07-25 09:02:58

That's 47 seconds later than us. I can understand if the time between two pools finding the same block is very short, but 47 seconds?

https://blockchain.info/block-height/312400

Block timestamps should not be considered the actual times they were made.  The timestamp for the block is part of your header data before you start hashing it, and is based off the pool server's clock.  It also doesn't have to be updated as you continue to hash.  Blockchain.info used to have 'Received time' vs 'Timestamp', but for the last few months that has been broken and they just use the timestamp for both.

I don't know about them but reading a previous post on the matter I would research any pool you are thinking about switching to as this could be effecting more than us. All I know is it sucks.

Come to BTCGuild. Orphan rate is less then 0.01%

slush pool is the same, less than 0.01% from pool lifetime

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[Donkeycongo]

The 12 hour and invalid blocks are a test.
They tempt you go elsewhere, hoping you
will do better.

There is no pool, anywhere, that has all
good days. Math just does not work that
way.

well if that was true wwii would have ended differently.  don't confuse luck as in slot machines with math.  if math worked this way we would never have put a man on the moon in the 60's.

There are different kinds of math. Probability and Algebra live in different worlds.

Algebra puts men on the moon, Probability wins the lottery. Sometimes.

Probability is a form of calculable math, when working with probability algebra is often used to display a formula.

Probability wins blackjack, luck wins lottery.

Sounds like you know math better than me, I was a Philosophy major.
Does it change anything in regards to pool  hopping?

You could do a probability on pool luck based on all the previous rounds, but solving a block comes down to luck > hash power, not very accurate unlike with counting cards which has a set amount of variables each hand, (Corrected) Slush uses a payout alg that stops people leaving mid round and still getting paid, I reckon there would be people out there jumping onto pools at near end of round, to make that work it would be a full time job. There really is no predictable end to a round.

[andyjjones]

Newbie here;
Invalid block == orphaned block?

[JPoet]

The 12 hour and invalid blocks are a test.
They tempt you go elsewhere, hoping you
will do better.

There is no pool, anywhere, that has all
good days. Math just does not work that
way.

well if that was true wwii would have ended differently.  don't confuse luck as in slot machines with math.  if math worked this way we would never have put a man on the moon in the 60's.

There are different kinds of math. Probability and Algebra live in different worlds.

Algebra puts men on the moon, Probability wins the lottery. Sometimes.

Very true, can the "expected" daily return (blocks found) be calculated?  Still trying to figure out what pool luck means is it the probability of hitting?  thanks

[AFlatMinor]

Can only tell you from the last 42 days (Includes the "orphans")

 Days    Average Block Time   No. of Blocks    Blocks/day
  42               3:53:36                        257           6.119047619

[Sonix711]

Hey Everyone
Hey Slush

Hope your all well.

When I first started mining, many moons ago, I was mining with Slush's pool...& never really had any problems, thanks very much.

I can't exactly remember what made me switch pools, but I have been mining with BTCGuild currently.
I have wanted to move back to Slush's pool, but the thing thats holding me back is Namecoin merged mining... I never mined them originally with Slush, and now I wish I had.

I have mined a few through BTCGuild, but what with all this talk of regulation in US and such like, if BTCGuild does shutdown completely, will you, Slush, be re-implementing merged Namecoin mining again?

I hope so !!! Otherwise, I have no idea which direction to head in next - without Namecoin mining, there is basically no Namecoin network, right? Unless your talking solo merged mining or something, right?

Any input is welcome - I hope to make new friends here, and perhaps bump into friends from BA's forum originally, or from here originally that I have now met on BA's forum... hope that makes sense...

For the record, I only mine small scale - I used to GPU mine mainly with 1 x Asus 6870, & 2 x Asus 7970's.
Now I am mining with 1 x BE, 2 x BFL 7gh's, 1 x BFL 25gh's, & 1 x BA Prospero X1 ( rpi version ) mostly running around 100-120gh's unless its crashed - you may have seen my vids on youtube - please
search under my name on here on there

I hope merged Namecoin mining makes a return to Slush's Pool !!!

Thanks everyone, & again, thanks Slush for all your time & effort in the past & into the future !!!

[yan7181]

looks like another 12 hour duration, 4th in 3 days, 

[whispy]

looks like another 12 hour duration, 4th in 3 days, 

Don't worry it will be an invalid again 
With the pool size back up to 5.7 Peta looks like we are all gluttons for punishment.

[JPoet]

Looks like we may break the record for longest round!

[psahx]

Newbie here;
Invalid block == orphaned block?

Yes.

Bitcoin Wiki

[sjc1490]

looks like another 12 hour duration, 4th in 3 days, 

15+, this isn't funny anymore.

[bmoscato]

This is ridiculous!

[Rboxer]

looks like another 12 hour duration, 4th in 3 days, 

15+, this isn't funny anymore.

Lel 12Hours ?
Let see this today round !
https://i.imgur.com/NEEaae9.png

[bmoscato]

I have a question as a newbie to this entire crypto coin thing...  Are these long periods due to the pool not finding a block or that the pool doesn't have enough processing power to decipher the block?

[bobsav2121]

I have a question as a newbie to this entire crypto coin thing...  Are these long periods due to the pool not finding a block or that the pool doesn't have enough processing power to decipher the block?

I've been mining for a while and I still don't quite understand this long block business either. !

Bob

I know its not because of computing power, so what exactly is it ?

[sjc1490]

I have a question as a newbie to this entire crypto coin thing...  Are these long periods due to the pool not finding a block or that the pool doesn't have enough processing power to decipher the block?

I am far from an expert but luck as well as total hashing power does have a part in it. We are coming off of a 30 day run or so of really good luck so I really can't complain too much. Larger pools do usually find more blocks but your share will be a lot smaller so it does average out. Here is a link to weekly pool stats and luck: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77000.0

[JPoet]

I have a question as a newbie to this entire crypto coin thing...  Are these long periods due to the pool not finding a block or that the pool doesn't have enough processing power to decipher the block?

I am far from an expert but luck as well as total hashing power does have a part in it. We are coming off of a 30 day run or so of really good luck so I really can't complain too much. Larger pools do usually find more blocks but your share will be a lot smaller so it does average out. Here is a link to weekly pool stats and luck: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77000.0

I started here last week

[Billbags]

It is just taking a long time to find and complete a block.

[sjc1490]

I have a question as a newbie to this entire crypto coin thing...  Are these long periods due to the pool not finding a block or that the pool doesn't have enough processing power to decipher the block?

I am far from an expert but luck as well as total hashing power does have a part in it. We are coming off of a 30 day run or so of really good luck so I really can't complain too much. Larger pools do usually find more blocks but your share will be a lot smaller so it does average out. Here is a link to weekly pool stats and luck: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77000.0

I started here last week

I know it is tempting to jump ship but hang in there it will pick back up. Usually after a run like this we have a couple of really good rounds.

[bobsav2121]

That's a very interesting link, never saw that before, THANKS.
Gives a good picture of what exactly is going on.  I switched to "slush" from CEX after having what I thought were bad days. but I see now that it does even out.
Bob