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July 10, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
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i) What are the advantages of being a node?  Is there any reward?  Or just a feeling that you've contributed to the community?
ii) Why is it necessary for nodes to have the entire transaction history?  What use do the earliest transactions still serve?
I would have thought you'd only need the latest ones.


Hum.... you need the entire transaction history so people know what has happend......  I think it's time you do some youtubing for yourself.. a good 100 hours of it.. starting at what is money.
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July 10, 2014, 04:49:25 PM
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Hum.... you need the entire transaction history so people know what has happend......  I think it's time you do some youtubing for yourself.. a good 100 hours of it.. starting at what is money.
Why won't just the latest blocks do?  If nothing has gone wrong, can't very old blocks just expire? 
If I use internet banking, my bank won't let me dig up transactions that are more than a couple of years old.
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July 10, 2014, 05:10:27 PM
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Hum.... you need the entire transaction history so people know what has happend......  I think it's time you do some youtubing for yourself.. a good 100 hours of it.. starting at what is money.
Why won't just the latest blocks do?  If nothing has gone wrong, can't very old blocks just expire? 
If I use internet banking, my bank won't let me dig up transactions that are more than a couple of years old.

Your bank is a criminal organization, all are.

It is very useful to know where everything has come from and went to.. It is needed to ensure the blockchain is correct.  If I sent you 1 btc 3 years ago, you never sent it anywhere and it wiped out the blockchain after a year how could anyone prove you have any BTC?  It would be gone.
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July 10, 2014, 05:46:52 PM
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i) What are the advantages of being a node?  Is there any reward?  Or just a feeling that you've contributed to the community?
ii) Why is it necessary for nodes to have the entire transaction history?  What use do the earliest transactions still serve?
I would have thought you'd only need the latest ones.

i. If you want to solo-mine - you need[1] to be a node in order to be able to verify the transactions you include in the block you want to solve. When in a pool it does that for you.

ii. I will skip block 0, as it is special, but the reward for block 1 is also still 'unspent', so:

It is very useful to know where everything has come from and went to.. It is needed to ensure the blockchain is correct.  If I sent you 1 btc 3 years ago, you never sent it anywhere and it wiped out the blockchain after a year how could anyone prove you have any BTC?  It would be gone.

To be able to spend (or to confirm it wasn't spent yet) the reward from block 1 - you need to have the entire history back to that block[2]

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[1] it might be possible to solo-mine by using a network of 'full nodes' as a backend, but that's more of exception from the rule.
[2] at some point in time it might be necessary to 'shrink' the database and a list of 'unspent outputs only' may be used as a seed for the future transactions, but this is not yet the case.

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July 10, 2014, 05:53:11 PM
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Thanks for the answers : ).
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July 10, 2014, 08:45:39 PM
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Hello, today I didn't receive the payment. Is there anyone that happened it to? Maybe are any problems in the pool?
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July 10, 2014, 09:32:13 PM
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Hello, today I didn't receive the payment. Is there anyone that happened it to? Maybe are any problems in the pool?
Check this: http://support.bitcoin.cz/Knowledgebase/Article/View/22/3/my-confirmed-reward-is-over-the-threshold-why-i-didnt-receive-my-payout-yet

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July 10, 2014, 09:53:52 PM
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Same with me gof, but don't sweat it they always show up.
Things don't always happen as fast as one would like in the
BTC world, best to get used to it. Recently, for example, it
seems like every time I send someone a payment that should
be usable in 30 minutes, we get 3 45 minute blocks on Blockchain
and it is not available for 3 hours or more. Sometimes luck is
good, sometimes bad.
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July 10, 2014, 10:06:19 PM
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Understood, thank you for the answers
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July 10, 2014, 10:13:12 PM
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Bitmaintech.com almost cancelled my S3 orders, because they require payment in one hour.
Normally that is not a problem, as a block is found every 10 minutes +/-. Except when I
place an order for new miners, then it seems to take the next 3 blocks an hour each.
They have been around the block and get it, so it worked out. Personally, I try to keep
stats at a weekly level now, not a daily, and for sure not an hourly level.

Sometimes it is just one of those days, and there is nothing that you can do about it.
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July 11, 2014, 02:12:50 AM
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Okay, so now I am starting to worry. No payments for 12 hours? Is something wrong at HQ?
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July 11, 2014, 02:27:09 AM
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Hello, today I didn't receive the payment. Is there anyone that happened it to? Maybe are any problems in the pool?
Check this: http://support.bitcoin.cz/Knowledgebase/Article/View/22/3/my-confirmed-reward-is-over-the-threshold-why-i-didnt-receive-my-payout-yet

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... a few hours' delay in sending coins to user's wallet
in a few more hours = 1 day, something is not right, time to move to another pool  Undecided
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July 11, 2014, 04:28:58 AM
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Hello, today I didn't receive the payment. Is there anyone that happened it to? Maybe are any problems in the pool?
Check this: http://support.bitcoin.cz/Knowledgebase/Article/View/22/3/my-confirmed-reward-is-over-the-threshold-why-i-didnt-receive-my-payout-yet

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... a few hours' delay in sending coins to user's wallet
in a few more hours = 1 day, something is not right, time to move to another pool  Undecided

LMAO,, too funny,, hue hue hue,
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July 11, 2014, 05:06:03 AM
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Hello, today I didn't receive the payment. Is there anyone that happened it to? Maybe are any problems in the pool?
Check this: http://support.bitcoin.cz/Knowledgebase/Article/View/22/3/my-confirmed-reward-is-over-the-threshold-why-i-didnt-receive-my-payout-yet

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in a few more hours = 1 day, something is not right, time to move to another pool  Undecided

LMAO,, too funny,, hue hue hue,
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What he said ^^^^^
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July 11, 2014, 07:41:58 AM
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22420 2014-07-11 07:15:24 0:18:27
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Go Slush gooo, Mush Mush
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July 11, 2014, 01:48:29 PM
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Hello, today I didn't receive the payment. Is there anyone that happened it to? Maybe are any problems in the pool?
Check this: http://support.bitcoin.cz/Knowledgebase/Article/View/22/3/my-confirmed-reward-is-over-the-threshold-why-i-didnt-receive-my-payout-yet

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... a few hours' delay in sending coins to user's wallet
in a few more hours = 1 day, something is not right, time to move to another pool  Undecided

LMAO,, too funny,, hue hue hue,
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What he said ^^^^^

Cool, more coin for me, thanks!   Cool

I guess that's why my earnings went up the last two - three days; last evening was really amazing Grin

Uhm...  before you get paid, the whole block needs to be CONFIRMED 120 times and that is with most pools! 

It can take a few days for the 120 confirmations to go through for you to cash out your earnings.

If you want to get paid automatically, move to a pool that pays you without needing the 120 confirmations like BitMinter (donations needed for perk).

This is because the pool owner wants to make sure they don't pay out on orphaned blocks as this can cost the owner a lot.

Pool owners don't get paid on orphans, so they don't normally pay it; they're usually fast few second or couple minute blocks.

More of a kick in the crotch than anything but you also don't want an orphan of a 10 hour block; there goes your day's profitability.

Paying orphans shows confidence in their system; orphans should/must be rare anyways.

A few days ago, there was an orphaned block every 2 hours at GHash.io (resolved now); imagine if you were mining there that day or so? 

They don't pay for orphans either, as far as I know, only BTC Guild and BitMinter let you cash out your earnings as they appear on your stats page.

Relax, you'll get your pay, pool owners wouldn't be in business still if they were ripping people off Smiley

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July 11, 2014, 02:02:18 PM
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Hello, today I didn't receive the payment. Is there anyone that happened it to? Maybe are any problems in the pool?
Check this: http://support.bitcoin.cz/Knowledgebase/Article/View/22/3/my-confirmed-reward-is-over-the-threshold-why-i-didnt-receive-my-payout-yet

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... a few hours' delay in sending coins to user's wallet
in a few more hours = 1 day, something is not right, time to move to another pool  Undecided

LMAO,, too funny,, hue hue hue,
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What he said ^^^^^

Cool, more coin for me, thanks!   Cool

I guess that's why my earnings went up the last two - three days; last evening was really amazing Grin

Uhm...  before you get paid, the whole block needs to be CONFIRMED 120 times and that is with most pools! 

It can take a few days for the 120 confirmations to go through for you to cash out your earnings.

If you want to get paid automatically, move to a pool that pays you without needing the 120 confirmations like BitMinter (donations needed for perk).

This is because the pool owner wants to make sure they don't pay out on orphaned blocks as this can cost the owner a lot.

Pool owners don't get paid on orphans, so they don't normally pay it; they're usually fast few second or couple minute blocks.

More of a kick in the crotch than anything but you also don't want an orphan of a 10 hour block; there goes your day's profitability.

Paying orphans shows confidence in their system; orphans should/must be rare anyways.

A few days ago, there was an orphaned block every 2 hours at GHash.io (resolved now); imagine if you were mining there that day or so? 

They don't pay for orphans either, as far as I know, only BTC Guild and BitMinter let you cash out your earnings as they appear on your stats page.

Relax, you'll get your pay, pool owners wouldn't be in business still if they were ripping people off Smiley


100 confirms is required. ,, am just being retentive here.
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July 12, 2014, 12:57:46 AM
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Hi everyone i got an avalon in today with the openwrt web i will like to know how do i add slush's pool in there i tried and nothing is working. i do stratum+tcp//stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 my worker and pass and its not working what am doing wrong i only like slush's pool   
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July 12, 2014, 06:01:44 AM
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Hi everyone i got an avalon in today with the openwrt web i will like to know how do i add slush's pool in there i tried and nothing is working. i do stratum+tcp//stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 my worker and pass and its not working what am doing wrong i only like slush's pool  
 

maybe here? ---> http://support.bitcoin.cz/Knowledgebase/Article/View/14/4/what-host-login-and-password-i-should-use-in-my-miner

 a lot of people miss the pool_login.worker part

https://www.buytrezor.com?a=55c37b866c11   well sir, I like it!
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July 12, 2014, 06:14:38 AM
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Hi everyone i got an avalon in today with the openwrt web i will like to know how do i add slush's pool in there i tried and nothing is working. i do stratum+tcp//stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 my worker and pass and its not working what am doing wrong i only like slush's pool   
I passed this on the BFG miner thread earlier, might help not sure. The comment at the bottom "Edit" might help you head in the right direction. Source: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626361.280 .. nwools post and he is trusted source

"You can grab 703N firmware for BFGMiner 4.4 here:

https://github.com/nwoolls/BFGMiner-OpenWrt-Tools/releases

This image is confirmed working with multiple GridSeed, ZeusMiner, RockMiner, DualMiner, Hex*Fury, AntMiner USB, LittleFury, Butterfly Labs and Block Erupters ASICs.

Edit: note that, from what I've been told, the latest 703N hardware is difficult (if not impossible) to update to OpenWrt so don't go buying a bunch without doing your homework first. I had some older ones kicking around."

A google for "avalon openwrt" shows http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Avalon and it uses CGminer,

I don't have anything Avalon here, so cannot comment, but if it does use CGminer you best bet is the CGminer thread, unless someone here has better info.

Soz
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