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Author Topic: [40+ PH] SlushPool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool  (Read 3928768 times)
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April 15, 2014, 08:38:34 PM
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A mining rig is a tool used to achieve some other purpose which is to mine BTC. 

I believe the term everyone is looking for is "sunk cost".

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In economics and business decision-making, a sunk cost is a retrospective (past) cost that has already been incurred and cannot be recovered.

See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs - especially, the section that describes decision-making based on costs.

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In traditional microeconomic theory, only prospective (future) costs are relevant to an investment decision. Traditional economics proposes that economic actors should not let sunk costs influence their decisions. Doing so would not be rationally assessing a decision exclusively on its own merits.
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Sunk costs should not affect the rational decision-maker's best choice. However, until a decision-maker irreversibly commits resources, the prospective cost is an avoidable future cost and is properly included in any decision-making processes.

The cost of your mining hardware is a sunk cost.  In a rational economic decision, that cost is immaterial, it's already been lost and can't be recovered in any way, which is especially true in the world of mining hardware that becomes "obsolete" so fast.

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April 15, 2014, 10:15:33 PM
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And FYI min payout is .1 .


I joined in October 2013 aware of how slow my miners were and expected to get my first payout in March(ish) territory of .05 (min payout that I read when I joined). I have been checking in to see how things have been going with the pool every 2 weeks or so and glancing at this forum (this time noticing your post). I am on ~.041 and was hoping to get a payout in around june/july which no longer looks viable. Has the min payout changed?? If so, I don't see any point to continue mining and would there be any way to recieve the bitcoins that I have mined so far? If I cannot get my bitcoins what will happen to them? trapped forever within the pool?

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Min payout is 0.01 so you are good to collect now...

My bad, you are correct. forgot a zero.

What's one zero when we've gone from MH/s to PH/s in a couple of years Smiley

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April 16, 2014, 12:44:08 AM
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I just logged into my Wallet. I have the wallet hosted locally on my computer.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/9cfa54d0a5537e18e4e89a64da1c5c85981cd90b5a5aeeec002bca4fffbe7f8a

I got robbed? Can someone explain or help?Huh?

OMG this is crappy.
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April 16, 2014, 01:09:42 AM
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I just logged into my Wallet. I have the wallet hosted locally on my computer.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/9cfa54d0a5537e18e4e89a64da1c5c85981cd90b5a5aeeec002bca4fffbe7f8a

I got robbed? Can someone explain or help?Huh?

OMG this is crappy.

Just lost 1.3 btc...miners for sale. anyone interested?
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April 16, 2014, 01:47:40 AM
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...With a total of 28 shares for an unconfirmed total of 0.00000065 BTC.    I'm averaging between 12.915 to 10.500 Mhash/s.

Does this seem correct?  Less than 1 penny for all the resources I've loaned?

Don't take this as a criticism, but "all the resources [you've] loaned", even at the high estimate of 12.9Mh/s, comes out to less than 1/10,000 of a percent of the total shares input to the current pool hashrate, which is currently clocking over 1.3 Terrahashes/sec.

And the last 24 hours has been a GOOD pool day, that's about twice the payout (since we've found twice as many blocks) that you would normally expect to see in a statistically average day.  As OrganOfCorti said, if you're mining on GPU or CPU, the current difficulty and mining rate of the global BTC pool is so much larger than your capacity to mine on that hardware that it's not efficient.

Then you wont take this as a criticism when I say, nowhere on your website does it say, "reg CPU users will need to run their computer for a total of FIVE YEARS to generate 1 bitcoin".   I'm confident you DEPEND on the thousands and thousands of us "workers" who are under educated and dumb enough to run our computers for 24 hours to yield the lack of result while you keep everything we generate and have no choice to abandon because you won't payout less than 1 bitcoin.   Now I understand why information is pretty scarce.  It's clearly a deliberate intent to defraud.





Really?

I wrote a nice response to your first post, taking some time to do a little research as I did.  Several others replied to you as I was writing that, and then you came in with this gem.  I deleted my "nice" response.

I'm an IT worker; we talk sometimes about users who "substitute belligerence for brilliance."  I don't think I've ever said this directly to anyone before, but I think you just gave the textbook demonstration of that principle.  You found some software, fired it up, and figured you were going to see magic hit your bank account, with no research?  And then, when other try to point out some shortcomings in your plan, you react in this way; blaming others for your lack of understanding.

Wow.

You've got enough there to do some semi-useful Litecoin mining.  Google can be your friend, and I wish you luck with your future interpersonal interactions.

'Snail.
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April 16, 2014, 01:54:42 AM
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I just logged into my Wallet. I have the wallet hosted locally on my computer.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/9cfa54d0a5537e18e4e89a64da1c5c85981cd90b5a5aeeec002bca4fffbe7f8a

I got robbed? Can someone explain or help?Huh?

OMG this is crappy.

Just lost 1.3 btc...miners for sale. anyone interested?


News: ♦♦ A bug in OpenSSL, used by Bitcoin-Qt/Bitcoin Core, could allow your bitcoins to be stolen. Immediately updating Bitcoin Core to 0.9.1 is required in some cases, especially if you're using 0.9.0. Download. More info.
♦ The same bug also affected the forum. Changing your forum password is recommended.

See also:  The top of every page in the forum
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April 16, 2014, 02:02:46 AM
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Yea I see that. I didn't even have 0.9.0 I don't think...
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April 16, 2014, 02:12:54 AM
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Well Slush! Its been fun. My noobness as a 2 month long bitcoin miner has destroyed my dream of riding the bitcoin train to glory. I can't imagine the people who lost a lot of btc on Mt. Gox. I lost 1.3 btc and feel like an asshole.

It was fun the mine with all of you!

PM me if you're interested in 215 GH/s Avalon miners and Cube Erupted!!

Have fun!
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April 16, 2014, 08:15:03 AM
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Hey all,

can someone explain to me what happened here?
http://s18.postimg.org/7mforq1hl/what.png

I know that i don't have alot of gh/s but shouldn't I get a couple of satoshi for that amount of shares?
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April 16, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
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I'm a small, "worker" and have been running my computer all night.  My GUIMiner says I have accepted 71 shares.  When I log in to your console it shows several rounds with no shares (I assume this means nothing was found).  With a total of 28 shares for an unconfirmed total of 0.00000065 BTC.    I'm averaging between 12.915 to 10.500 Mhash/s.

Does this seem correct?  Less than 1 penny for all the resources I've loaned?

Mh/s just isn't worth the effort.  I just got an (2Gh/s) Antminer U2 USB thingie and I reckon in six months time I might just qualify for the minimum payout.  In a week and a bit I have got a confirmed 0.00076316 BTC.  If I can say I mined 0.01 of a BTC myself I will be well chuffed.  I won't even remotely cover the £30 for a U2 but, hey.

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April 16, 2014, 11:45:36 AM
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I just logged into my Wallet. I have the wallet hosted locally on my computer.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/9cfa54d0a5537e18e4e89a64da1c5c85981cd90b5a5aeeec002bca4fffbe7f8a

I got robbed? Can someone explain or help?Huh?

OMG this is crappy.

Just lost 1.3 btc...miners for sale. anyone interested?


News: ♦♦ A bug in OpenSSL, used by Bitcoin-Qt/Bitcoin Core, could allow your bitcoins to be stolen. Immediately updating Bitcoin Core to 0.9.1 is required in some cases, especially if you're using 0.9.0. Download. More info.
♦ The same bug also affected the forum. Changing your forum password is recommended.

See also:  The top of every page in the forum
Some people have said that MultiBit wouldn't have been affected by Heartbleed. Either way, its been a rough last 24 hours. Super bummer. Miners are off so I can at least stop wasting money on electricity. I hope to just sell my miners and get something back out of this.
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April 16, 2014, 12:54:47 PM
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Hey all,

can someone explain to me what happened here?
http://s18.postimg.org/7mforq1hl/what.png

I know that i don't have alot of gh/s but shouldn't I get a couple of satoshi for that amount of shares?


nm.. Just learned that since I stopped my miner 3hours before the block was found my shares was practically worthless.
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April 16, 2014, 12:55:05 PM
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...With a total of 28 shares for an unconfirmed total of 0.00000065 BTC.    I'm averaging between 12.915 to 10.500 Mhash/s.

Does this seem correct?  Less than 1 penny for all the resources I've loaned?

Don't take this as a criticism, but "all the resources [you've] loaned", even at the high estimate of 12.9Mh/s, comes out to less than 1/10,000 of a percent of the total shares input to the current pool hashrate, which is currently clocking over 1.3 Terrahashes/sec.

And the last 24 hours has been a GOOD pool day, that's about twice the payout (since we've found twice as many blocks) that you would normally expect to see in a statistically average day.  As OrganOfCorti said, if you're mining on GPU or CPU, the current difficulty and mining rate of the global BTC pool is so much larger than your capacity to mine on that hardware that it's not efficient.

Then you wont take this as a criticism when I say, nowhere on your website does it say, "reg CPU users will need to run their computer for a total of FIVE YEARS to generate 1 bitcoin".   I'm confident you DEPEND on the thousands and thousands of us "workers" who are under educated and dumb enough to run our computers for 24 hours to yield the lack of result while you keep everything we generate and have no choice to abandon because you won't payout less than 1 bitcoin.   Now I understand why information is pretty scarce.  It's clearly a deliberate intent to defraud.





Fucking idiot.
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April 16, 2014, 04:42:56 PM
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Yea I see that. I didn't even have 0.9.0 I don't think...
Same here. I was on .8  Just upgraded mine.

Please donate bitcoins to 1Fnru3bQ35VccmGQiDsA5Up2dmmiddUq47
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April 16, 2014, 05:00:26 PM
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Yea I see that. I didn't even have 0.9.0 I don't think...
Same here. I was on .8  Just upgraded mine.
I wish the person that stole my BTC would just reply back and say BABA BOOEY and send it back to me.
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April 16, 2014, 05:54:24 PM
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Yea I see that. I didn't even have 0.9.0 I don't think...
Same here. I was on .8  Just upgraded mine.
I wish the person that stole my BTC would just reply back and say BABA BOOEY and send it back to me.
Hey nowwwwwwwwww

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April 16, 2014, 06:54:01 PM
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The nerve of that horse toothed jackass. Could use those chicklets on 296170 about now.
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April 16, 2014, 07:34:13 PM
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The nerve of that horse toothed jackass. Could use those chicklets on 296170 about now.
haha...its weird being out of the game anyway. I suddenly dont care about rounds anymore. Sigh.............
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April 17, 2014, 12:44:08 AM
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Been mining Since Jan. 2013, Slush pool was only 3 TH/s

I got used to long blocks after the first 5 months on this pool now I do not even bother checking on BTC rewards because my main focus is Litecoin. Still mining BTC but with very low rewards because I am only running 25GH/s..

Happy mining if you cannot deal with the score system move somewhere else but I recommend staying here to "balance" the network. Sucks though everyone is PPLNS with Ghash.io leading the pack at 30% of the network :\
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April 17, 2014, 12:54:26 AM
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Pool percentage is irrelevant. Personal percentage to the entire network is the metric of performance. The only useful information from pool percentages IMHO is to have an appreciation for the type of mining being added and whether individuals are being disadvantaged by data centers and manufacturers to the point of being uncompetitive. Even this is difficult since you may not know the composition of the pool in all instances.
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