[ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development

[ivanlabrie]

I think the coin is in good hands, thanks for everything you've done WM. Don't mind the haters...

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[bandjhughes]

Windmaster, I just want to say Thank You for picking this up just after the start and for all the work you've done since in making this a better coin.  It's a shame that in cyberspace no good deed goes unpunished.  But rest assured that there are far more of us who truly appreciated what you've done (albeit in a silent way) then there were unappreciative haters who for some reason feel entitled to loudly demand more free labor from you.

[cycloid]

WM - I will take it over if you can't do it anymore. Either in conjunction with sairon, or solo if they are not interested. Either way, I appreciate all of the work you've done on YACoin so far and am looking forward to seeing where we can bring YAC to in the future. Let me know.

I think that'll be the best.  So, everyone, I'm going to go ahead and turn the Github repository over to Joe_Bauers.  Joe has already demonstrated an understanding of the code (just look at the commit history on the repository, he's the only one who was contributed) and I consider him trustworthy, so I'm comfortable passing the torch on to him.  At this point the YACoin client needs some good UI improvements, and Joe is a lot stronger with QT, so the future of the coin will be better in his hands.  Part of the job of being the developer on an open-source project is knowing when to get out of the way of progress.  Hey Joe, I'll catch up with you to hand off the repository password.


Some kind words from someone on yacointalk wishing me well on my departure:

If you take on a public project and announce it like he did, then Dont whine that you get attention and PM and feature requests. I was not impressed with his presentation from the beginning. He mentioned his coding skills as moderate. .So now im just very disapointed by the additude thath he gets discouraged with the stupid feature request. Which is,imho,only showing the coin still gets attention from the less educated, a positive thing.
One of his main reason was to keep the project development alive becouse he had some coins (from the FPGA instamine). So now that he aperantly sold those he looses interest. Very Very weak, he got no vision.  let him leave, he is negatively affecting the project with this additude. Or hopefully he is just having a blue monday.

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Thanks for the kind words merijnk, the feeling is mutual!  Your contributions were invaluable (especially all those git pull requests you sent!), which is why I almost added your name alongside Joe_Bauers and sairon as candidates who I would trust to protect the integrity of YACoin as they take over development and work to bring the coin to the next level.  I look on with admiration each time I see the high quality work and apparently above-moderate coding skills that went into yacoinwiki.tk!

Well, I'll be on my way now so I stop "negatively affecting" the project.  So long and thanks for all the fish!

I would also like to say thank you for all your hard work and BS you had to endure.

 

[Joe_Bauers]

Nevertheless loosing the main developer (again) will be a big hit to it.

This happens all the time in many open source apps and projects. For instance, Ian Murdock founded Debian in 1993, and as far as I know, contributes little (if any) code to the current project. There have been 12 project leaders since Ian, yet Debian is still one of the most successful open source projects and has a thriving community today.  

I have believed in YACoin since day one, and, like many of you, am personally highly invested in helping it to succeed.
I will be looking for community involvement, input, and absolutely... pull requests to the github repo.  

I look forward to working with all of you in the future.    

[ilostcoins]

Thankfully, yacoin isn't orphaned. 

BTW, thank you to everyone who contributed or will contribute.

[cycloid]

Wallet startup is damn slow on my side regardless of if datadir is on SSD or classic HDD. It used to start fast but it is getting worse with time.

08/22/13 11:49:49 Loading block index...
08/22/13 11:57:14 LoadBlockIndex(): hashBestChain=000000047a3fe01c1fcb  height=180516  trust=5408589079260  date=08/22/13 11:45:58
08/22/13 11:57:14 LoadBlockIndex(): synchronized checkpoint 0000003098ac3de96d93c7968d454ea6a94d2ff42e774443ceb9b512e22b781a
08/22/13 11:57:14 Verifying last 2500 blocks at level 1
08/22/13 11:58:32  block index          522828ms

Anyone else having the same issue?

Same here taking forever to load block index, I am running ssd raid 0 under Opensuse 12.3

[St.Bit]

Wallet startup is damn slow on my side regardless of if datadir is on SSD or classic HDD. It used to start fast but it is getting worse with time.

Anyone else having the same issue?

Same here taking forever to load block index, I am running ssd raid 0 under Opensuse 12.3

Yep, but since I'm running it on a netbook with truecrypt and some other altcoins I haven't thought about it. YAC seems to be by far the slowest.

[Joe_Bauers]

I did a quick search on the internets for "Loading block index" and found numerous results for other clients, so this doesn't seem to only affect YACoin. It's possibly more pronounced with YAC due to the lack of seed nodes, but that is pure speculation at this point.

[sairon]

I did a quick search on the internets for "Loading block index" and found numerous results for other clients, so this doesn't seem to only affect YACoin. It's possibly more pronounced with YAC due to the lack of seed nodes, but that is pure speculation at this point.

It's verifying the block headers (checking if all the blocks really form a chain and that you don't have a corrupt blockchain). For me the startup takes approx 3 minutes (notebook with encrypted hdd). This time scales proportionally to the number of blocks in the chain (IMO).
http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/1906/why-does-it-take-15-minutes-for-my-bitcoin-client-to-start

[Thirtybird]

Joe, would it make sense to clone the various miner clients into the yacoin repository so that there is one central place where good, working copies of the CPU and GPU miners can be found?  Even if they're not the latest version, it's still something...

[St.Bit]

Joe, would it make sense to clone the various miner clients into the yacoin repository so that there is one central place where good, working copies of the CPU and GPU miners can be found?  Even if they're not the latest version, it's still something...

Unless he wants to check the source of all miners this is a bad idea. It doesn't bother me when someone puts a walletstealer in some miner, but if such thing ends on the official repository it's a PR nightmare.

[Joe_Bauers]

Joe, would it make sense to clone the various miner clients into the yacoin repository so that there is one central place where good, working copies of the CPU and GPU miners can be found?  Even if they're not the latest version, it's still something...

Unless he wants to check the source of all miners this is a bad idea. It doesn't bother me when someone puts a walletstealer in some miner, but if such thing ends on the official repository it's a PR nightmare.

It would absolutely be nice to have Thirtybird, but as St.Bit mentions, it's probably not too feasible to include all of the various miners.  I do hope to have verified YACoin client binaries available at some point for Win and Linux in one repository.    

[sairon]

Joe, would it make sense to clone the various miner clients into the yacoin repository so that there is one central place where good, working copies of the CPU and GPU miners can be found?  Even if they're not the latest version, it's still something...

IMO that's nonsense. Keeping working binaries on one site (eg. yacoin.org) would be nice, though.

[Thirtybird]

Joe, would it make sense to clone the various miner clients into the yacoin repository so that there is one central place where good, working copies of the CPU and GPU miners can be found?  Even if they're not the latest version, it's still something...

Unless he wants to check the source of all miners this is a bad idea. It doesn't bother me when someone puts a walletstealer in some miner, but if such thing ends on the official repository it's a PR nightmare.

Alright, check out my github repository for the CPU miner and clone that if you feel comfortable with the changes.  I took ali1234's code, merged it with floodyberry's updated scrypt-jane library, speperated out the yacoin unique stuff into its own file and added instructions on how to compile under windows.  Check the code, and if you don't find any wallet/key/password stealers, add it to the repo...  I tried to get ali1234 to accept a pull request on his, but it's still sitting there after several months.

https://github.com/Thirtybird/cpuminer

[AGD]

Since I started with POS (walletpassphrase xxxxxxxx 999999999 true) over one month ago, I have some difficulties with the client:

1. No POS blocks found, no rewards or anything recieved
2. Starting the client takes 5-10 minutes, sometimes crashes
3. Most important: I hardly can send yacs to another wallet or trading platform or anything. Error: Transaction creation failed. I already tried dividing into 500Yac pieces and even smaller. Once in a while (like 1 of 10) a transaction gets through with a high fee (12YAC at the last try of 350Y). After a failed transaction the client crashes most of the time.
4. Some of the transaction that work, keep getting unconfirmed until I start the client with --rescan.

I can't find any other help in the net. Somebody here got an idea?

[sairon]

Since I started with POS (walletpassphrase xxxxxxxx 999999999 true) over one month ago, I have some difficulties with the client:

1. No POS blocks found, no rewards or anything recieved
2. Starting the client takes 5-10 minutes, sometimes crashes
3. Most important: I hardly can send yacs to another wallet or trading platform or anything. Error: Transaction creation failed. I already tried dividing into 500Yac pieces and even smaller. Once in a while (like 1 of 10) a transaction gets through with a high fee (12YAC at the last try of 350Y). After a failed transaction the client crashes most of the time.
4. Some of the transaction that work, keep getting unconfirmed until I start the client with --rescan.

I can't find any other help in the net. Somebody here got an idea?

Are you p2pool mining? If so, you probably have thousands of small inputs and when you try to combine them into a single, say, 500 YAC output, you exceed a transaction size limit (thus the huge fee).

[sairon]

BTW, we can change the Novacoin icons in Qt client to proper YAC icons. All that needs to be done is generate a few sizes of png and ico images with YAC logo. If someone has the skills to do it (a few minutes in your favorite image editor with a resizeable YAC logo), I've attached a zip with all the required dimensions/formats:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2jf8bkdmslcb4nn/yac-icons-todo.zip

[ivanlabrie]

BTW, we can change the Novacoin icons in Qt client to proper YAC icons. All that needs to be done is generate a few sizes of png and ico images with YAC logo. If someone has the skills to do it (a few minutes in your favorite image editor with a resizeable YAC logo), I've attached a zip with all the required dimensions/formats:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2jf8bkdmslcb4nn/yac-icons-todo.zip

Not a big deal, but it's been bugging me forever...I like where yac is heading, just needs a little push. After some point the xpm miners might flock this way.

[BChydro]

BTW, we can change the Novacoin icons in Qt client to proper YAC icons. All that needs to be done is generate a few sizes of png and ico images with YAC logo. If someone has the skills to do it (a few minutes in your favorite image editor with a resizeable YAC logo), I've attached a zip with all the required dimensions/formats:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2jf8bkdmslcb4nn/yac-icons-todo.zip

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[alenevaa]

Done! 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lqswrmnvf704b4r/yac-icons.zip



I don't like this logo personally too much, but it's more or less official