Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[notabot]

Coinpayments.net dropped a few coins yesterday, one being ANC. You can confirm at https://www.coinpayments.net/supported-coins  

[drAGon925]

Very easy to buy cheap coins these days : )

btw , where are you ppl?? 

Meeh is on vacation, no-ice-please run away from himself,
 
others have not left a note for absence ??

 

[Brilliantrocket]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

[drAGon925]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

You just shook my knowledge and belief,
right now selling all of the ANC, and you set buy order,
then I will buy DRK, total anonymity with only 2 millions premined   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.700

[niteglider]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

You just shook my knowledge and belief,
right now selling all of the ANC, and you set buy order,
then I will buy DRK, total anonymity with only 2 millions premined   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.700

Ha!

[Brilliantrocket]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

You just shook my knowledge and belief,
right now selling all of the ANC, and you set buy order,
then I will buy DRK, total anonymity with only 2 millions premined   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.700

Instead of being a moron, can you just answer my question?

[drAGon925]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

You just shook my knowledge and belief,
right now selling all of the ANC, and you set buy order,
then I will buy DRK, total anonymity with only 2 millions premined   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.700

Instead of being a moron, can you just answer my question?

My knowledge is not for everyone, and was formed by reading and spending of my own time.
I advise you not to listen to anyone, go study and you will not be in doubt.

I can not be put down to yours level, I tried a couple of times, but it's hard.
Better for you to stay in your beliefs.
You asked and answered to the question yourself...

The course will cost you, I will accept even a DRK payments.

[shtako]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

You just shook my knowledge and belief,
right now selling all of the ANC, and you set buy order,
then I will buy DRK, total anonymity with only 2 millions premined   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.700

Instead of being a moron, can you just answer my question?

My knowledge is not for everyone, and was formed by reading and spending of my own time.
I advise you not to listen to anyone, go study and you will not be in doubt.

I can not be put down to yours level, I tried a couple of times, but it's hard.
Better for you to stay in your beliefs.
You asked and answered to the question yourself...

The course will cost you, I will accept even a DRK payments.

I heard you could get an ugly rash if you download the darkcoin wallet. At the very least, you should wear some thick gloves.

[drAGon925]

I heard you could get an ugly rash if you download the darkcoin wallet. At the very least, you should wear some thick gloves.

That is like the red light district, everyone wants it, regardless of consequences
hope Meeh have equipment

 

[newb4now]

but which coin in your opinion would be the most attractive to somebody who is new to this?

The problem is that most people don't do the research: None of the altcoins you listed are truly anonymous (even anoncoin today is not anonymous). For the most part, they are at best just using fancy ways to mix transactions to make it harder, but not impossible, to figure out transaction linkages. The best solution doesn't always win on the open market, as the rise of DRK attests.

Zerocoin and Zerocash are the only solutions that I am aware of that provide 100% provable anonymity, and Anoncoin will probably be the first to implement zerocoin. So, to answer your question: Anoncoin is the most attractive for not only provable anonymity, but because it's price is currently in the gutter...

I am not sure how long the price of ANC will remain in the gutter..... it is up over 10% recently with the size of the buy walls continuing to increase.  I think the recent update from Meeh has sparked a renewed excitement in the coin.

[drAGon925]

but which coin in your opinion would be the most attractive to somebody who is new to this?

The problem is that most people don't do the research: None of the altcoins you listed are truly anonymous (even anoncoin today is not anonymous). For the most part, they are at best just using fancy ways to mix transactions to make it harder, but not impossible, to figure out transaction linkages. The best solution doesn't always win on the open market, as the rise of DRK attests.

Zerocoin and Zerocash are the only solutions that I am aware of that provide 100% provable anonymity, and Anoncoin will probably be the first to implement zerocoin. So, to answer your question: Anoncoin is the most attractive for not only provable anonymity, but because it's price is currently in the gutter...

I am not sure how long the price of ANC will remain in the gutter..... it is up over 10% recently with the size of the buy walls continuing to increase.  I think the recent update from Meeh has sparked a renewed excitement in the coin.

Demand has increased. Ppl quietly buying.
The worst is that the price will rise sharply, the resistance is low, and will be even weaker.
The weakest hands will sell on the first jump, but it's the only way to clear up the situation and get a stable price as it is now.

[AlfredoRuizSanchezvonZut]

Coinpayments.net dropped a few coins yesterday, one being ANC. You can confirm at https://www.coinpayments.net/supported-coins  

If you look at the coins they support obviously there is more to the story.

Why would they carry several coins with extremely low volume and marketcap but drop Anon? Some of their coins average well under 10%  of Anon's volume and have less than 5% of the market cap Anon has.

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=21125.0

[gostrol]

Hi,

Just wanted to tell that anc.coinpool.in is no more sending ANC withdrawal!

I have 27 ANC stuck in there

Hopefully something can be done... Meeh?

[niteglider]

It looks like the pool at anon.cryptcoins.net is down.

I've been mining there exclusively even when there were hardly any other miners...

So, I'm on www.anonmining.com now.  Much smaller, but much steadier earnings.

[AlfredoRuizSanchezvonZut]

Maybe this could stimulate someone to create an opensource ANC payment service provider that every one could host and install on their website (no third party, your website and the anc blockchain only )

What do you mean by payment service provider? In order to convert anc to fiat without a 3rd party directly involved you still would need an exchange to run it through.

Anoncoinbuy at the footer of your post is a great start except for a few problems:

English is bad. "how to proceed" should be something like "get started", " we buy for your with fiat..." should be "we buy for you..." etc etc

"30% of profits donated" should be clarified as "30% of net profits" or preferably put in terms of gross sales e.g. "10% of gross sales".

A service like that should have a testimonial page with links to people who have an internet presence. You are asking people to trust what? That a stranger with modest English skills can make a website they should send money to?

You could get a Commission Junction publisher account and make a page with the best deals you can find. Donating any percentage of the profits from that page will produce more money for the faucet then selling t shirts.

As for proxy selling other things that a customer notices elsewhere, no altcoin is ready for that service yet. It is a very avant garde idea and will be popular but not yet. For 99% of the people seeing the page it would mean using fiat to buy anoncoin then paying anoncoin to someone who will change it back to fiat to make the purchase. Not practical.

One of the tipping points for bitcoin was when small companies started paying people in btc to do pointless tasks, like filling in capchas or whatever. There are literally millions of people who are willing to work for 10 cents an hour and literally thousands of companies that are willing to pay a dollar an hour for anonymous online workers. Make a website with a better name than anoncoinbuy and offer to connect those two groups. An idea.

[Gnosis-]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

Zerocoin will be using RSA UFOs, which means nobody ever has the "key" (the prime factors), so there is nothing to be destroyed.

[drAGon925]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

Zerocoin will be using RSA UFOs, which means nobody ever has the "key" (the prime factors), so there is nothing to be destroyed.

HI Gnosis, give us some update of RSA UFO progress : )



@AlfredoRuizSanchezvonZut    welcome back without Ice!

 

[lunokhod2]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

Yes, it will be trustless. You can read more on the wiki:

https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Zerocoin
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/RSA-UFO

[drAGon925]

It is very sad to watch the movement of the ANC on cryptsy.
There was a "big" buyer for 24h, just put it buy order and waited to be eaten.

So sales are much higher than the buy orders.

It's hard to expect breakthroughs value in this way.
If you did not want to grab a bit of sales, then you can not expect price increases.

Of course, we all counting on increased traffic after ZC released.. Then there will be a greater demand than sales.

What is most important at this time is that we must have fresh news about the progress. In order to keep the old hodlers, and attract more attention to new people.

Ofc, to mention again, we do not have PR yet...... 

So, we are PR!  Login and write about ANC/ZC   

Have a nice weekend to all ANC fans, and those who will become..  : )

[LuigiPabloQuernevaca]

It is very sad to watch the movement of the ANC on cryptsy.
There was a "big" buyer for 24h, just put it buy order and waited to be eaten.

So sales are much higher than the buy orders.

It's hard to expect breakthroughs value in this way.

Anc is not on most of the major exchanges, while dozens of brand new coins are. Mysterious.

The website anoncoin.net right now shows "Error displaying the error page: Got error 28 from storage engine SQL=SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `anonw_template_styles`" If it had an error that would be okay, but an error showing the error page? Sounds like an error.