Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[drAGon925]

Good news!
ANC is back on Coinpayments.net:
https://www.coinpayments.net/supported-coins

Good news!
ANC is back on Coinpayments.net:
https://www.coinpayments.net/supported-coins

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam/status/491450704167321602

Good news! I added an announcement to Twitter. Actually using ANC at these businesses will help us gain traction and visibility.

Traction and visibility? I might be wrong but honestly, is there a real benefit to anc from promoting coinpayments? It seems like a fluff site that will make a little money for the guy who bought the site but anc volume will probably be zero unless you buy something.

Today, every tweet , new site, new market is promotion for ANC.
If ppl will use ANC , spend them by any site, that is good.
We will have first anon coin with full anonymity and freedom of transaction.
ANC is must have product for all, including NSA!
 

When anoncoin started out it was all substance, no hype. It provided a new service no one else had even thought about and took the first real step past bitcoin. All very quietly with no promotion, yet people noticed.

Now it's main claim to fame is that it is trying to become one more of the dozens of anonymous coins. And people pretty much ignore.

Are they ignoring because there is not enough hype?

Despite the bullshit about it possibly becoming the first truly anonymous coin, and it is bullshit, anoncoin still has potential that most other coins do not.

If you really support this coin you will not support hyping it. Rather you will look at each development and ask whether it is a real step or just hype. When I see people supporting too much hype in a coin I have to exit that coin. Anoncoin is one of the first coins I had and I do not want to quit it.

I'm supporting coin , new buyers, old holders, not a hype , if support sound like hype support to you, I support hype.

Most of potential buyers would like to see hype,and then they will come in..

Many of them wait zerocoin, and they would like to have low price until then,
I hope they will not get cheap ANC on that way.

So I do not know what every supporter like to hear and what would like to be with ANC,  my opinion is that they want success even over the "dead coins" not even close to anonymity coins like DRK who have all signs pump-hype + large premined coin.

ANC is quite quiet , and like you who like to criticize,   I like to share my opinion with hope that I will attract more people. People who will not buy only in hype.
And with hope that people will not sell now, except they who must..

You say that these things can reject you from coin,
then Bitcoin with all propaganda reject you the most?

ANC has no PR, and maybe only you think he do not need that.

I see last 5-7 days there is no much posts, maybe ppl are on vacation,
or they expect more news, and zerocoin asap.

All will change after zerocoin, and your or my posts will not be most visible : )

I'll take any criticism,  I want the best to ANC,
and  I will ask you to help ANC on any kind of way if you can and want.

[K1773R]

Each one supports Anoncoin according to its possibilities and time. No one is hyping the coin here.
And you, apart criticize, how do you support your first coin? Are you working with the devs to improve anonimity? Are you sharing some CPU power for the ufo_client of Gnosis?

First coin was some other digital currency. Second coin was bitcoin. Anoncoin later, but anoncoin is potentially best.

I support the idea of anoncoinbuy, for example, but I would not buy something unless it had real value. I don't want to just "buy something to show my support". The value of a specific coin should not rest in convincing others it has value. If I want to pretend then there are lots of coins to pretend with.

As for sharing cpu power all of my electricity comes from one 40 watt panel. If I had spare electricity I might or might not use some of it for that.

When I mention a coin, either online or to a person, it is not because someone thinks the coin should be mentioned. I try to stick with facts. x coin seems cheap, y coin is dogshit, z coin has a cool concept etc.

If you or anyone wants to pump anoncoin please do it, I will move to another coin. Twitter fine, mention facts or useful information. Donate coin to pay someone to write articles? No thanks. If I see something in the coin to write an article about I will write. Same with press release. I can cook up a press release for real news for free. Is there real news that warrants a press release? No. Not yet.

Coinpayments.net? You want someone to buy anc with fiat then send the anc to Boris who changes it back to fiat? A currency requires an ecosystem and that is still nascent with bitcoin, let alone anoncoin. A closed system would promote the coin genuinely, as was used early with bitcoin to put small amounts of bitcoin with many people. Coinpayments benefits the site owner and the merchants only. They get 'visibility and traction', very little. Really, if you mention anc and coinpayments a thousand times a day online fully 999 out of those thousand everyone who reads it will roll their eyes and say "yay, more hype".

It's a famous saying that no person ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of the consumer. But coins are different. Pumping a coin with hot air will cause a temporary rise, but only coins that avoid that tactic will last.

40W? so your working on a RPi/ODROID-X* with a power-save Monitor+keyboard+mouse ?

[K1773R]

You say that these things can reject you from coin,
then Bitcoin with all propaganda reject you the most?

ANC has no PR, and maybe only you think he do not need that.

I see last 5-7 days there is no much posts, maybe ppl are on vacation,
or they expect more news, and zerocoin asap.

All will change after zerocoin, and your or my posts will not be most visible : )

I'll take any criticism,  I want the best to ANC,
and  I will ask you to help ANC on any kind of way if you can and want.

Bitcoin did not need propaganda. Anyone who went around spamming people about bitcoin did not help bitcoin. Bitcoin succeeds even though some people sabotage it by spamming and pumping it.

As for zerocoin, the latest in a long line of anonymous currencies, who knows.

The nsa has full access to any computer that has any software from windows, adobe, etc. They have full access to raw endpoint data to and from every ip address in the united states and also in many foreign countries. They have been making their data available to many law enforcement agencies only with the condition that its source be camouflaged. I spent a lot of time in latin america in the 80s and asia and so on. I know what the u.s. supports and the lengths it will go. Anonymous online currency? Be careful.

Agree on the second part. Thats why we (community) should create detailed "Guides/HowTos" for ppl on using ANC on a "safe" linux distro.

[K1773R]

Each one supports Anoncoin according to its possibilities and time. No one is hyping the coin here.
And you, apart criticize, how do you support your first coin? Are you working with the devs to improve anonimity? Are you sharing some CPU power for the ufo_client of Gnosis?

First coin was some other digital currency. Second coin was bitcoin. Anoncoin later, but anoncoin is potentially best.

I support the idea of anoncoinbuy, for example, but I would not buy something unless it had real value. I don't want to just "buy something to show my support". The value of a specific coin should not rest in convincing others it has value. If I want to pretend then there are lots of coins to pretend with.

As for sharing cpu power all of my electricity comes from one 40 watt panel. If I had spare electricity I might or might not use some of it for that.

When I mention a coin, either online or to a person, it is not because someone thinks the coin should be mentioned. I try to stick with facts. x coin seems cheap, y coin is dogshit, z coin has a cool concept etc.

If you or anyone wants to pump anoncoin please do it, I will move to another coin. Twitter fine, mention facts or useful information. Donate coin to pay someone to write articles? No thanks. If I see something in the coin to write an article about I will write. Same with press release. I can cook up a press release for real news for free. Is there real news that warrants a press release? No. Not yet.

Coinpayments.net? You want someone to buy anc with fiat then send the anc to Boris who changes it back to fiat? A currency requires an ecosystem and that is still nascent with bitcoin, let alone anoncoin. A closed system would promote the coin genuinely, as was used early with bitcoin to put small amounts of bitcoin with many people. Coinpayments benefits the site owner and the merchants only. They get 'visibility and traction', very little. Really, if you mention anc and coinpayments a thousand times a day online fully 999 out of those thousand everyone who reads it will roll their eyes and say "yay, more hype".

It's a famous saying that no person ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of the consumer. But coins are different. Pumping a coin with hot air will cause a temporary rise, but only coins that avoid that tactic will last.

I agree with your point of view.
When I mentionned coinpayments.net that was just to tell that ANC was back there because some days ago someone wrote on the forum that ANC was removed from coinpayments. I really don't think that I'm able to pump the coin with this information. Even no one here is able to pump ANC at this time. The only people able to do it are Meeh and Gnosis with new wallet and zerocoin implementation.
Since I started anoncoinbuy, I sold 10 tshirts and all the ANC I received for are on my wallet now. I don't plan to convert them to fiat because I believe in ANC for the long term.
Sorry for my english but I hope you will understand me. See you guy!

Im interested in some ANC tshirts with the new logo

[drAGon925]

Im interested in some ANC tshirts with the new logo

Yes sure, I will do it as soon as devs release officialy the new logo!
And old logo tshirt will become a very limited and rare piece

That's why I keep my ANC tshirt in the safe
I'll wear to my own wedding..
New logo I can wear every day
 

[K1773R]

Im interested in some ANC tshirts with the new logo

Yes sure, I will do it as soon as devs release officialy the new logo!
And old logo tshirt will become a very limited and rare piece

see PRIVMSG

[drAGon925]

Im interested in some ANC tshirts with the new logo

Yes sure, I will do it as soon as devs release officialy the new logo!
And old logo tshirt will become a very limited and rare piece

That's why I keep my ANC tshirt in the safe
I'll wear to my own wedding..
New logo I can wear every day
 

+1

I can make first ANC chat selfie with old logo RR tshirt and me ofc,   that can be new logo??   

[drAGon925]

Im interested in some ANC tshirts with the new logo

Yes sure, I will do it as soon as devs release officialy the new logo!
And old logo tshirt will become a very limited and rare piece

That's why I keep my ANC tshirt in the safe
I'll wear to my own wedding..
New logo I can wear every day
 

+1

I can make first ANC chat selfie with old logo RR tshirt and me ofc,   that can be new logo??   

If you could do a selfie for the new testimonial page of anoncoinbuy, it would be great You could wear an anonymous mask or do photoshop on your face!

Deal , I will order a mask..  in few weeks you will have photos, If you can wait.

in some space under, you put my number for girlz (18+)   

[drAGon925]

The logo with guy fawkes appeals to a lot of people just to support a coin that has the guts to use that. Also the question mark logo looks nice.

What kind of sucks is the motto 'the future of anonymity'. It sounds canned, plastic.

Very few coins have good mottos. Some people accidentally visit frankocoin and read the motto then they get nightmares.

Maybe brainstorm any mottos that come to mind, post them and the devs pick or consensus vote.

For logo I would vote guy fawkes.

right, not a privilege

be different, be safe

to be continued 

step up to the anonymity

we are anoncoin
we are developers of safety
...

Anoncoin = Libertas


that's it for first morning coffee,
i expect better mottos from others 

[meeh]

Deal , I will order a mask..  in few weeks you will have photos, If you can wait.

I and Jackofall has beeeeen there, dooone that ;P

[drAGon925]

Deal , I will order a mask..  in few weeks you will have photos, If you can wait.

I and Jackofall has beeeeen there, dooone that ;P

hahahahhaha,  I like!

jackofall ANC lost warrior who hides in the woods and model Meeh   

[Trader Steve]

FWIW, here's my entrant into the moto milieu:

"Anoncoin - because your business is none of my business."

[K1773R]

FWIW, here's my entrant into the moto milieu:

"Anoncoin - because your business is none of my business."

my is too specific, our is better i'd say

[drAGon925]

FWIW, here's my entrant into the moto milieu:

"Anoncoin - because your business is none of my business."

my is too specific, our is better i'd say

I have new one : )

value of privacy is in your hands

[Apraksin]

Why not simply go for "We are legion" ?

[K1773R]

Why not simply go for "We are legion" ?

we are not related to the anonymous group

[drAGon925]

Why not simply go for "We are legion" ?

we are not related to the anonymous group

no we are not, but with such strong slogan we would have a lot more attention,
after attention, we can change that 

[notabot]

For logo how about;

-Privacy Matters

or

-Discretion Assured

[lunokhod2]

FWIW, here's my entrant into the moto milieu:

"Anoncoin - because your business is none of my business."

my is too specific, our is better i'd say

I just updated the byline

https://anoncoin.net/

For info, I've modified a lot of the text on the web site over the past couple of weeks. If you have any comments, even for typos, send me a PM. The "services" page still needs work. Also, don't bother me about graphic design issues: This will be fixed by someone else...

[sorrros]

A few other slogan ideas

• In Freedom we trust
• More than a Currency, Shared Values
• Share the Value. Privately.
• Because Freedom is Priceless
• Independent, Anonymous, Unsubdued
• We Fight for your ePrivacy
• The Only Anonymous eCurrency