Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[niteglider]

Fifty pages wrote in this thread within the last seven weeks.

Thanks to "rsa_ufo_attack".

The trolls have gained awareness of each other! Is this a new stage in their evolution? 

Trolls?   I think it's just one guy playing with himself.

[gunzeon]

Hi,

If anyone's using tor here's my address for your anoncoin.conf

addnode=45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion

I'd be happy to get some feedback from anyone as to whether it works or not, ie: does it show to connect at all in debug.log?

Also, some more tor server addresses'd be nice; i'm not sure how/if there's a routine to locate tor servers like there in irc for ex, anyone know ?

[onealfa]

Very basically a very tiny community. 156 pages in 15 months lmao!

well noted...

[rhader]

So whats this coin all about?

Visit OP and the subsequent links....

Basically its a community which is keen on anonymity. The developers of the Coin are implementing a "technology" called Zerocoin, which would be the ultimate anonymizer as of now. Compared to CoinJoin or Ring Signitures Zerocoin is far more sophisticated. Not to forget i2p which is already compatible with the wallet
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_Wiki

Whats the difference between zerocash and zerocoin? As far as im aware SDC is in the process of implementing zerocash into their anon system.

[SmokingSkull]

So whats this coin all about?

Visit OP and the subsequent links....

Basically its a community which is keen on anonymity. The developers of the Coin are implementing a "technology" called Zerocoin, which would be the ultimate anonymizer as of now. Compared to CoinJoin or Ring Signitures Zerocoin is far more sophisticated. Not to forget i2p which is already compatible with the wallet
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_Wiki

Whats the difference between zerocash and zerocoin? As far as im aware SDC is in the process of implementing zerocash into their anon system.

Zerocash is not yet fully developed - Miers and Green are not done with the code as far as I know, they wanted to release the Coin this time around, but who knows, nobody knows anything about it, so any Coin who says they implement Zerocash is basically ... lying.

Zerocoin will be implemented by the Anoncoin Devs, (with RSA UFOs, the original idea was without them), we dont know of any particular Coin with a real approach to implement it, at least nobody is doing the coding correctly (mostly they add the "ZC" branch to their source and that's it) Here in Anoncoin the Devs are really working on it (see source)

The technical differences between Zerocoin and Zerocash are in the wiki ... please read about it here https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_Wiki

[TheKoziTwo]

Matched 101.101 ANC

Left: 1013.95659696 ANC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8836960#msg8836960

Keep donating guys, let's try to get it all matched before 1st of October. 

Current balance ANC:
http://ancblockchain.com/address/AU4hFCFZLhB2gTyG4VbaEurXGrTMNW2nu6

Current balance BTC:
https://blockchain.info/address/14QnfqVG3CqLGBYHgD8tPYJVLxQ2AfvPEx

[Simcom]

As I promised two weeks ago, here is an estimate for completion of Zerocoin-in-Anoncoin that I feel has a very high chance of being met (a "hard deadline").

By October 15, I'll have Zerocoin integration in "alpha" state, and on a testnet for anybody to try.

By November 1, I'll have Zerocoin in mainnet, which means you can use the ANC you have now to mint and spend zerocoins. It will still be in "beta", meaning you should pay attention to our website, IRC, and our bitcointalk.org thread for security updates to the wallet and anoncoind; this is especially important if you are a miner or running a relay node.

I realized that I have made deadlines in the past that were not met. I put a lot of thought into the above deadlines and I know that they can be met. Just as a reminder, I'm working full-time on Zerocoin until at least October 1, and possibly after depending on funding.

Other upcoming dates:

September 15: the RSA UFO project ends, participants are rewarded, and the server source is released to our Github.

September 17: the first Zerocoin commits get pushed to our Github (Anoncoin/anoncoin, "zc" branch). As I said before, the public Github will lag 2 weeks behind active development in our private repository; this is to make things more difficult for copycat coins.

Previous updates:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8750399#msg8750399
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8599297#msg8599297

Gnosis how is development coming along? I've looked at the code but it's hard for me to judge - do you think you are on track to meet the Oct 15th goal?

[drAGon925]

Everybody are on IRC or wtf,

if you know something about new attack, (I think that is attack again),
let us noobs here know whats going on, and is there some plan to stop that before ZC..

Thanks

edit:

site+wiki under attack or my connectivity delays

[AnonCoinTwitter]

Is the Zerocoin implementation going to be trustless? As I understand it, there's a key that needs to be destroyed. If that can't be overcome, this coin has no future.

Yes, it will be trustless. You can read more on the wiki:

https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Zerocoin
https://wiki.anoncoin.net/RSA-UFO

Great Wiki updates! Hopefully this will clear up any confusion some people may have

I added a link to Twitter:
https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam/status/515581992344489984

[gunzeon]

Everybody are on IRC or wtf,

if you know something about new attack, (I think that is attack again),
let us noobs here know whats going on, and is there some plan to stop that before ZC..

Thanks

edit:

site+wiki under attack or my connectivity delays

The network is under attack since 17 hours but anoncoin devs are not aware or don't care.

Network under attack: no response
Cryptsy transactions problem: no response or say Craptsy
I ask responses on the trustless scam: no response or say Troll

And, again, what's your point ? Is this the only thread in town ? Why did you come out from under your rock again ?

Maybe it's you doing the dossing, since as you can'r read why else would you try the wiki ?

[Simcom]

Is the network under attack or is the website down? Big difference.

[drAGon925]

I didn't want to take the snake under a rock, but if you think he is a troll, I do not know why respond to his posts.

Also, answers on problems are good for new members and watchers,
old hodlers, we, are more patient, and have believes in ANC.

Evan troll can make ANC stronger at the end, because he is not telling the truth..

Regards to all, and have a nice weekend!

 

[bamsterdam]

Okay troll, this is my first and last reply to you, since I'll be putting you on my ignore list.

[...]
3) It is silly for such a fuss about others stealing zerocoin from anc when anc took it, nearly complete, from others with no negotiation nor respect.
[...]

Negotiation was not possible, since the Zerocoin team at JHU ignored my attempts to reach out for months, and I have credited them in the past, and will also credit them in the Anoncoin app when Zerocoin is released. Furthermore, they obviously no longer have a stake in libzerocoin, as they started from scratch to design a new system that they believe is better. I disagree with that belief since there is apparently no way to generate the parameters in a trustless manner, so I am building on their original system.

Also, it is not a trivial matter to add RSA UFO support (which I have completed a couple days ago), and integrate it into a working crypto-currency (which I am now working on). This is why no other coins have added Zerocoin, AFAIK.

I dont know if you mean that I'm the troll here but then your wrong. I bought some anc a while ago and heard some guy on ltb say that there was this problem with the zerocoin protocol. This guy was apparently some well respected brilliant coder etc so I took that for granted since I don't have the capability to understand the whitepaper myself.

With the latest price movement I visited this tread again and then I saw this guy's question what I was wondering myself. Still not understand if there is a solution, but maybe that because of my lack of knowledge regarding the topic. RSA and UFO says me nothing.. could you explain? Just trying to understand it better to see if I should invest more  

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=RSA+UFO+Anoncoin

hahahahaah LOL. I must say you are right. Your post made me laugh out loud! I will look for myself, its just I have been so busy with work lately, havn't even had the time to check out btc talk until now. seems that I will have some time overall since price stabilized again.  

I just watched it a second time haha

[alacast]

Hello everyone, here is an infographics about anonymity in the blockchain that I intend to finish and publish on reddit on october 6, maybe sooner.
The text is coming from the anoncoin wiki, but the title and inter-titles are from me. There might be typos and bad grammer in them.
There will be a second part about IP addresses, and I2P.

Feel free to criticize, it's almost finished but still a draft. I'll work again on some of the visuals maybe, especially the "mixing coins" part wich I'm not too sure of, and maybe the colors are too flashy... I'll see that in the next days.
Leave your comments so that I can make changes if needed.

Also the last part about choosing/testing UFO may not be so accurate these days ? Tell me...

Here it is (imgur is not happy with Tor):

https://img.bi/#/fPHZrnA!0ZcYZivXHJp9Tbm9i298cuKJQb1qRO02ZYvPW933

[semidead]

What? New account? Good to see news though.

[TheKoziTwo]

Hello everyone, here is an infographics about anonymity in the blockchain that I intend to finish and publish on reddit on october 6, maybe sooner.
The text is coming from the anoncoin wiki, but the title and inter-titles are from me. There might be typos and bad grammer in them.
There will be a second part about IP addresses, and I2P.

Feel free to criticize, it's almost finished but still a draft. I'll work again on some of the visuals maybe, especially the "mixing coins" part wich I'm not too sure of, and maybe the colors are too flashy... I'll see that in the next days.
Leave your comments so that I can make changes if needed.

Also the last part about choosing/testing UFO may not be so accurate these days ? Tell me...

Here it is (imgur is not happy with Tor):

https://img.bi/#/fPHZrnA!0ZcYZivXHJp9Tbm9i298cuKJQb1qRO02ZYvPW933

Very good. I think you should add a better explaination of zerocoin and what it does, similar to how you explain mixing.

One example that I liked a lot:

In simplest terms: say you have 1 ANC whose history you want to erase. Using Zerocoin, you put that 1 ANC into a hat full of many other peoples’ 1 ANCs; at some later time, you can pull that 1 ANC out of the hat without its previous history (actually, you prove that you previously put in 1 ANC, and so you are allowed to pull out someone else’s 1 ANC). Someone who sees your new 1 ANC can only know that its previous history is one of perhaps millions of equally likely histories. If instead you had 12 ANC whose history you wanted to erase, you would have to put 10 ANC into the hat full of other peoples’ 10 ANC Zerocoins, and two 1 ANC coins into the hat full of other peoples’ 1 ANC coins. This means that Zerocoins are much more like actual coins than are Anoncoin, Bitcoin, etc. which are basically a collection of unnamed bank accounts.

[TheKoziTwo]

PS: who is deleting messages? This thread has lost about 8 pages the last few days...

[SmokingSkull]

PS: who is deleting messages? This thread has lost about 8 pages the last few days...

Now that you say it...

Good question. Maybe some guy who posting sheet in the past

Who reads about all the history anyway (seriously) ... it's good for archiving purposes and proof ... but that's it.

[TheKoziTwo]

PS: who is deleting messages? This thread has lost about 8 pages the last few days...

Now that you say it...

Good question. Maybe some guy who posting sheet in the past

Who reads about all the history anyway (seriously) ... it's good for archiving purposes and proof ... but that's it.

When I got into anoncoin I read every single page in this thread. It's a good idea to understand how the coin started out and developed when you were not around during that time (I got into ANC in 2014). Anyways, some of the deleted posts may be mirrored on https://bitcointa.lk/threads/official-anoncoin-chat-thread-including-history.135185/

[jotaceo]

Is Anoncoin working? It's been stalled since 2pm (gmt+2) and it's 0:07 am right now. Near 10 hours...