Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[drAGon925]

Looks like the market is finally waking up

I hope that everyone will be late, and get in at 0.01 

 

[alacast]

Ok I've taken into account what you thekozitwo and Gnosis told me, and I come with the file below.

Note that this part needs proof reading:

"With Zerocoin, one can create new coins recorded inside the block chain, but separated from the regular coins.
Let's say you have 2 anoncoins whose history you want to erase. By using Zerocoin you would exchange 2 anoncoins for 2 zerocoins, which would be added to all the other zerocoins in the Anoncoin blockchain, waiting there to be redeemed. At that point they become totally unrelated to any Anoncoin addresses.

When you want to get some anoncoins back, all you have to do is to prove that you previously created 2 zerocoins, in order to receive someone else's 2 anoncoins coming from that zerocoin pool and without their previous history."

And the last paragraph need something more accurate like "coming in November"

PS: maybe I'll modify some things in the visuals (aren't the blue and green buddies too MSN-like ? and colors in genral too flashy ?)

https://cdn.anonfiles.com/1412021647529.png

[ToxicDartFrog]

Wow alacast that looks incredibly professional.

[newb4now]

Anoncoin Mining

Guys do you know good cloud mining services on which I can get some mining power on the Anoncoin network?
Remember this is scrypt.

Mintsy will offer this soon

https://mintsy.co

dont fall for cloud mining services, they are all scam and ripoff. no wonder craptsy now offer such a service too... its getting pathetic.

Yesterday , we had cryptsy developer in this forum. Please communicate with him to solve the cryptsy issue.

I agree fixing this issue with anc should be a priority. Nothing else needs to be done on cryptsys end. The issue seems to be getting sidelined.... Ill continue to merge inputs to reduce tx sizes until they get it resolved

SOMEONE PLEASE FIX THIS!

Getting close to Zerocoin launch and Cryptsy is by far the most active exchange for ANC. He says everything is fine on their end. Need to fix the ANC code that is causing the stuck transactions ASAP!

[newb4now]

Why is cryptsy sending invalid transactions? are they using an old client or something?

I made two transactions from cryptsy recently (2500 ANC + 2500 ANC) both unconfirmed for a long time. Invalid?

PS: I'm looking to buy 10-20k ANC, please contact me if interested in doing a deal outside of cryptsy.

Can you give me the tx? or ask craptsy to rebroadcast the tx. once i see it, il include it in a block.
No, it seems they have patched/adjusted their anoncoind to allow bigger than allowed txs with too few fee too.

This is unacceptable.

We really need a listing on Bittrex or Mintpal so we can stop trading on Cryptsy. This problem has been occurring for far too long!

We have not modified our daemon at all. Anoncoind is allowing us to send theses transactions. We are doing nothing wrong here

There is an issue with the code somewhere as we are not the only ones experiencing the issue

That being said I did merge close to 100k inputs to reduce our tx sizes ( in kb )

More details above on the issue that needs to be fixed ASAP. This issue has been known for a while. Need to focus on it ASAP before moving forward. Marketing efforts are great once everything gets fixed, but stuck transactions are a huge turnoff to anyone new to ANC. It is critical this is fixed NOW before Zerocoin testnet begins

[GreekBitcoin]

I have some questions after reading the infographic. Its a bit difficult to read everything on this thread right now.

First of all about the RSA UFOs. I am sure many people have already asked about this already. So to my understanding the problem with those is that people will have to trust that the keys have been destroyed after launch because if they havent one can mint as many coins as he likes without anyone even knowing. So the proposal is that there isnt only one key but many given to a few persons and we have to trust than at least one of them will delete his key. In any case the anonymity is not compromised.

Is what i am talking about correct or i miss something? Also who are the people that will be given the keys? How many? And when this will happen, is there a date for that? Will it be public or something?

Now about mining, i understand that the algo will change to AuxPoW and the coin will be merged mined with other coins with 5 different algos. SHA256,  Scrypt, Skein, CryptoNight and Primecoin's algo.

I am not familiar with what AuxPoW is so i want to ask how does this work? Any link so i can read about it? And when will this algo change take place?

When does Zerocoin goes live? Is there a set date for that?

I am a holding Monero. You say that Cryptonote is actually mixing and eventually someone will be able to link transactions. Is this proven or is it under certain situations or something? I know that coinjoin is easy to track but i havent heard the same about cryptonote. Where can i read more about this. I am not the best guy when it comes to cryptography though


Thanks a lot.


P.S. I just saw in the infographic that you say ETA needs update.

[entertheabyss]

I have some questions after reading the infographic. Its a bit difficult to read everything on this thread right now.

First of all about the RSA UFOs. I am sure many people have already asked about this already. So to my understanding the problem with those is that people will have to trust that the keys have been destroyed after launch because if they havent one can mint as many coins as he likes without anyone even knowing. So the proposal is that there isnt only one key but many given to a few persons and we have to trust than at least one of them will delete his key. In any case the anonymity is not compromised.

Is what i am talking about correct or i miss something? Also who are the people that will be given the keys? How many? And when this will happen, is there a date for that? Will it be public or something?

Now about mining, i understand that the algo will change to AuxPoW and the coin will be merged mined with other coins with 5 different algos. SHA256,  Scrypt, Skein, CryptoNight and Primecoin's algo.

I am not familiar with what AuxPoW is so i want to ask how does this work? Any link so i can read about it? And when will this algo change take place?

When does Zerocoin goes live? Is there a set date for that?

I am a holding Monero. You say that Cryptonote is actually mixing and eventually someone will be able to link transactions. Is this proven or is it under certain situations or something? I know that coinjoin is easy to track but i havent heard the same about cryptonote. Where can i read more about this. I am not the best guy when it comes to cryptography though


Thanks a lot.


P.S. I just saw in the infographic that you say ETA needs update.

lots of people are asking the same questions. your best bet is to try to do your own research first lunohkod and lots of others have covered a lot of your questions in the anoncoin wiki. wiki.anoncoin.net

also check out https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anonymity_of_cryptocurrencies for comparison to other approaches like cryptonite.

check out the wiki if you have any questions after that feel free to ask, also lots of people in the irc freenode channel #anonocoin  and on irc2p #anoncoin

[alacast]

P.S. I just saw in the infographic that you say ETA needs update.

Hi,
zerocoin is still planning to be on mainnet in november I think (testnet around mid-october). I was too lazy to include that in the infographic


Also about the proof reading, yoyo told me to correct this:
"By using Zerocoin you would exchange 2 anoncoins for 2 zerocoins, which would be added to all the other zerocoins in the Anoncoin blockchain cryptographic accumulator, waiting there to be redeemed."

[TheKoziTwo]

Matched 23.88919338 ANC (donation is removing decimals, thx )

Left: 699 ANC

Offer expires at: September 30, 2014, 11:59:59 PM (Forum time)

Can the community come up with the remaining 699 ANC within ~25 hours?

Let's see 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8836960#msg8836960

[Gnosis-]

Matched 23.88919338 ANC (donation is removing decimals, thx )

Left: 699 ANC

Offer expires at: September 30, 2014, 11:59:59 PM (Forum time)

Can the community come up with the remaining 699 ANC within ~25 hours?

Let's see 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8836960#msg8836960

I've been busy developing so I haven't replied much but I just wanted to quickly say 1) thanks everyone who donated so far (currently full time through October 27)! and 2) I'm still on track for a (binary-only, sorry) testnet version for October 15. It will be binary only to prevent copy-cat coins. If you want to try out the Zerocoin testnet but are the type of person who only trusts compiling from source, I recommend running on a dedicated machine or in a VM.

[Simcom]

Matched 23.88919338 ANC (donation is removing decimals, thx )

Left: 699 ANC

Offer expires at: September 30, 2014, 11:59:59 PM (Forum time)

Can the community come up with the remaining 699 ANC within ~25 hours?

Let's see 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8836960#msg8836960

I've been busy developing so I haven't replied much but I just wanted to quickly say 1) thanks everyone who donated so far (currently full time through October 27)! and 2) I'm still on track for a (binary-only, sorry) testnet version for October 15. It will be binary only to prevent copy-cat coins. If you want to try out the Zerocoin testnet but are the type of person who only trusts compiling from source, I recommend running on a dedicated machine or in a VM.

When will you release the source?  Before the mainnet launch?

[Gnosis-]

Matched 23.88919338 ANC (donation is removing decimals, thx )

Left: 699 ANC

Offer expires at: September 30, 2014, 11:59:59 PM (Forum time)

Can the community come up with the remaining 699 ANC within ~25 hours?

Let's see 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8836960#msg8836960

I've been busy developing so I haven't replied much but I just wanted to quickly say 1) thanks everyone who donated so far (currently full time through October 27)! and 2) I'm still on track for a (binary-only, sorry) testnet version for October 15. It will be binary only to prevent copy-cat coins. If you want to try out the Zerocoin testnet but are the type of person who only trusts compiling from source, I recommend running on a dedicated machine or in a VM.

When will you release the source?  Before the mainnet launch?

Yes, shortly before.

[TaylorSwift]

Wow alacast that looks incredibly professional.

It sure does. I think this is a good coin to get some of.

[varun555]

Ok I've taken into account what you thekozitwo and Gnosis told me, and I come with the file below.

Note that this part needs proof reading:

"With Zerocoin, one can create new coins recorded inside the block chain, but separated from the regular coins.
Let's say you have 2 anoncoins whose history you want to erase. By using Zerocoin you would exchange 2 anoncoins for 2 zerocoins, which would be added to all the other zerocoins in the Anoncoin blockchain, waiting there to be redeemed. At that point they become totally unrelated to any Anoncoin addresses.

When you want to get some anoncoins back, all you have to do is to prove that you previously created 2 zerocoins, in order to receive someone else's 2 anoncoins coming from that zerocoin pool and without their previous history."

And the last paragraph need something more accurate like "coming in November"

PS: maybe I'll modify some things in the visuals (aren't the blue and green buddies too MSN-like ? and colors in genral too flashy ?)

TWO THUMBS UP !!!!!!

[gunzeon]

i get in my debug.log a lot:

partner ... using obsolete version 70005; disconnecting

When i do get a connection it says:
receive version message: /Anonymous:0.8.5.6/: version 70007,

So, is it just me or are there a lot of out of date noes out there ? trying to join in but getting rejected by the likes of me ?

Also, lets swap some tor addresses; mine is 45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion

Does anybody else have one that's an up to date client ? if so  please post

[K1773R]

i get in my debug.log a lot:

partner ... using obsolete version 70005; disconnecting

When i do get a connection it says:
receive version message: /Anonymous:0.8.5.6/: version 70007,

So, is it just me or are there a lot of out of date noes out there ? trying to join in but getting rejected by the likes of me ?

Also, lets swap some tor addresses; mine is 45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion

Does anybody else have one that's an up to date client ? if so  please post

can be, but dont worry about those.
are you going to run this TOR node (45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion) "forever"?

PS: if you want to push TOR, please set this in your anoncoin.conf

Code:

externalip=45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion
discover=1
listen=1

this way other nodes will propagate your onion address and be able to connect to you.

[gunzeon]

well yes - it's been running a long time, and will keep the key files and carry it across upgrades etc, but  not even sure if it's working atm ...

and I used to connect to others as well a few months back, but now, prolly since the last time i built it, i connect to nobody, other than regular ipv4 nodes via exit nodes i spose

Also, from what I can see, the network cannot find any tor nodes, not that it bothers me, If i cannot get the address of at least one then the tor listener is not going to get used

i got list of tor addresses from here but none work anymore

[K1773R]

well yes - it's been running a long time, and will keep the key files and carry it across upgrades etc, but  not even sure if it's working atm ...

and I used to connect to others as well a few months back, but now, prolly since the last time i built it, i connect to nobody, other than regular ipv4 nodes via exit nodes i spose

Also, from what I can see, the network cannot find any tor nodes, not that it bothers me, If i cannot get the address of at least one then the tor listener is not going to get used

i got list of tor addresses from here but none work anymore

im capable to connect to you over tor. can you setup another node and try to connect with -connect to your own node over TOR? dont use the same machine/TOR instance pls.

EDIT:
seems your setup is wrong. the destination you specified for TOR HS dosnt respond to requests.

Code:

anoncoind addnode 45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion onetry
....
2014-09-30 16:01:23 ThreadRPCServer method=addnode
2014-09-30 16:01:23 trying connection 45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion lastseen=0.0hrs
2014-09-30 16:01:23 SOCKS5 connecting 45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion
2014-09-30 16:01:24 SOCKS5 connected 45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion
2014-09-30 16:01:24 connected 45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion
2014-09-30 16:01:24 send version message: version 70007, blocks=248700, us=*****:9377, them=45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion:9377, peer=45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion:9377
....
2014-09-30 16:02:15 socket closed
2014-09-30 16:02:15 disconnecting node 45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion

EDIT2:
i already had you in my peer database due to the following entry:

Code:

2014-09-30 15:24:58 receive version message: /Anonymous:0.8.5.6/: version 70007, blocks=248689, us=[d-Puxd~OdmFGywsIE4cIpbCfZLId8xWJEeelq18VgnZykEYiPS0K0C9w7eb2UMfeqamYejmODi9ITePyZpyOT3vRgKR~I88AiQbiH1YjiR17-R7KDRJQXmbKfOqMpEMW7JUh-hZBI87PNkC4TTv65lSpKyt8Kz~SaX21jVEMX34klJg7ZI48JIaSvRXWFPCZoyadKOryjPIS-tqVQyX4yEbVcypLfouJ02uRYvo2SAyluDBpZ71Rn5FpnlDKkLx0srh5k6CJYMz7vozNYUub9xvKEZK0SLcKsLzy~FRyuHEbOHUZ76~ibvxUUWORt4hHdT3O-WDre17pMDnuEG8YDGHPotX-Y7CcfH-fXRacVLwhK4Y5k9BvdmiuaZZoU3GxOIGxyMGeK5MJhinNBNdZpyEvUnFPpfu7R33offpE50vKmnwim9YZVa76VG3xlRpYWu9Gj2IAfzR-3JSTvtxFPqMDHR2-D-MOeOp98Qe0CtHcAvx3kHhuCJW4gbwOJa2TAAAA]:9377, them=45y2lyszn5qnpt3l.onion:9377, peer=[cnwaNv70jPDFFPw4TQ2V-fsS~GbOrLJjDJeL5TErRtna81CGphaWCmbFNVpHaHrtoRUI2r6D9oLh8q8Jta1w8WSQ6KbLSLXqzINug4DvYZNwo9Vh~G9SU8LRwVzE6OuljhBTd7jNs77Fa4fyWvC-qCoohg7CvNeJS5wuDMxavZ2Nq~2jsF9FIzfHBkLQ2K3d7jMlnWRFd1eWhFGRG0AOwWU-DvwhOB30ioV9coxtrk~O-tZsGlX1Sb-0hC4pxWLXpxtHm4MWdpjzQotUSjPtwwxPudm~hubpWs9DLkeH7s2l3SiU9t3CeJFNUJ21tkFQ05a7eRdr-8XU4eele8Zk01fkCkYaORueQrqCIl8jnNddd9iyPbSFh2gIqRZ-4btaK1kmCF0z1UjT6k~U7kdB21cFf9hId4fe6KkbZVcXllxuXgdBxbdcl0JY5NbLKQLMjAEQbMg678hc4rvmYDGNke56dJC8P~9vP8T9YMMuV70D15NwNuF-~~HdFQDfPIVLAAAA]:0

[blytecoin]

Also about the proof reading, yoyo told me to correct this:
"By using Zerocoin you would exchange 2 anoncoins for 2 zerocoins, which would be added to all the other zerocoins in the Anoncoin blockchain cryptographic accumulator, waiting there to be redeemed."

So what happens to those coins in terms of visibility in the blockchain? They are shown as being transfered from the person's wallet to where?

Also, zerocash has 7 ivy league level experts creating an anonymous coin while anoncoin has one person who is working on a salary. If a major flaw is found in zerocoin after its release, and it seems highly likely that will be the case, does anc have a fallback plan? Would it keep patching zerocoin? Switch to something better?

[tomothy]

Can you double check that this transaction gets included in a block? It says it was confirmed but I don't see it anywhere in a block explorer,
855c148b7fcdcec1832c973948f105692303e26b7b85e0c77f846f6d21fd1d4d

also i donated 25anc earlier! match that sweet stuff!