Bottlecaps 2.1 UPDATE REQUIRED - HARDFORK JULY 4 2014 to 200% Annual PoS

[FlungSpun]

MY wallet doesn't seem to be staking either.  I haven't had it open 24/7 but I have high coin weight and have kept it open for several hours at a time. Will try troulbe shooting it soon.

Same here. My coin weight is 171447 and ive had my computer on for 2 days.

what's the exact date of each block you have ready for stake?

Non staking blocks. There is also a tiddler of 0.998 which I moved to another address.

Code:

Status: 42845 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:00
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: e6c8b0075d341008fe35da80213e7ff7068178ea382632b60ac70dc640275d2f

Status: 42822 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:10
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 62aa70d5add1333ddd42a0bb7f91c77ee94206958616376dadf6730cb2c7521c

Status: 42807 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:25
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA 
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 824c3d78fa5bb62817590d967eeb6b012c0398ff7128030e059cee6e3d14cdbd

Status: 42804 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:29
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 0244f1ab01d6d5762abe962fd5b10fdb7c47cceb6697410fe9c6bb53e064dbd3

The first one is obviously the devils block 6/6 @18:00
I just noticed this.

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[digitalindustry]

MY wallet doesn't seem to be staking either.  I haven't had it open 24/7 but I have high coin weight and have kept it open for several hours at a time. Will try troulbe shooting it soon.

Same here. My coin weight is 171447 and ive had my computer on for 2 days.

what's the exact date of each block you have ready for stake?

Non staking blocks. There is also a tiddler of 0.998 which I moved to another address.

Code:

Status: 42845 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:00
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: e6c8b0075d341008fe35da80213e7ff7068178ea382632b60ac70dc640275d2f

Status: 42822 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:10
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 62aa70d5add1333ddd42a0bb7f91c77ee94206958616376dadf6730cb2c7521c

Status: 42807 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:25
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA 
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 824c3d78fa5bb62817590d967eeb6b012c0398ff7128030e059cee6e3d14cdbd

Status: 42804 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:29
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 0244f1ab01d6d5762abe962fd5b10fdb7c47cceb6697410fe9c6bb53e064dbd3

The first one is obviously the devils block 6/6 @18:00
I just noticed this.

clearly satan is stopping your blocks from staking.

[FlungSpun]

clearly satan is stopping your blocks from staking.

But he promised to make me rich, you don't think he cheated me do you ?

[David Latapie]

Why new bottlecaps? Is this coin separated from the real bottlecaps? If so why not just deliver more support to the old bottlecaps? IS that coin offering something new to the community?
BR

If you are talking about Tranz updating Bottlecaps to 200% I will let him answer. If you are talking about Hyperstake, this is NOT a new Bottlecaps. This is different coin, I simply noticed that users of a high-PoS usually are on another one too. Cross-fertilisation if you prefer, since what works for Hyperstake could be ported back to CAP or other coin if the said dev consider it useful.

[Ense04]

MY wallet doesn't seem to be staking either.  I haven't had it open 24/7 but I have high coin weight and have kept it open for several hours at a time. Will try troulbe shooting it soon.

Same here. My coin weight is 171447 and ive had my computer on for 2 days.

what's the exact date of each block you have ready for stake?

14-06-06 14:04

Coin Weight is now 179152.

[paradigmflux]

I haven't staked yet either despite having held coins forever now.

db.log has this

Code:

Lock table is out of available lock entries

and debug.log has this:

Code:

07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 received block 0ac317b1ecb264b379c1
07/06/14 14:14:11 SetBestChain: new best=0ac317b1ecb264b379c1  height=527925  trust=2145786651908  date=07/06/14 14:14:07
07/06/14 14:14:11 ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED

[paradigmflux]

doesn't the block explorer show that the larget wallets are literally earning like about 1000 CAPS every time they stake a block and that they're stacking like a block every minute or two?

[unick]

I haven't staked yet either despite having held coins forever now.

db.log has this

Code:

Lock table is out of available lock entries

and debug.log has this:

Code:

07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
07/06/14 14:14:11 received block 0ac317b1ecb264b379c1
07/06/14 14:14:11 SetBestChain: new best=0ac317b1ecb264b379c1  height=527925  trust=2145786651908  date=07/06/14 14:14:07
07/06/14 14:14:11 ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED

for the db lock try this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241445.msg7362114#msg7362114

for mempool error, restart the client. we had a big rollback on the 4th and your client still holds old transactions in memory.

[unick]

MY wallet doesn't seem to be staking either.  I haven't had it open 24/7 but I have high coin weight and have kept it open for several hours at a time. Will try troulbe shooting it soon.

Same here. My coin weight is 171447 and ive had my computer on for 2 days.

what's the exact date of each block you have ready for stake?

Non staking blocks. There is also a tiddler of 0.998 which I moved to another address.

Code:

Status: 42845 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:00
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: e6c8b0075d341008fe35da80213e7ff7068178ea382632b60ac70dc640275d2f

Status: 42822 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:10
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 62aa70d5add1333ddd42a0bb7f91c77ee94206958616376dadf6730cb2c7521c

Status: 42807 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:25
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA 
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 824c3d78fa5bb62817590d967eeb6b012c0398ff7128030e059cee6e3d14cdbd

Status: 42804 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:29
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 0244f1ab01d6d5762abe962fd5b10fdb7c47cceb6697410fe9c6bb53e064dbd3

The first one is obviously the devils block 6/6 @18:00
I just noticed this.

It seems that you blocks are old enough, but I wonder if this is not the same thing I experience with GrowthCoin. min/max age is 15/45 days. so I guess you should get your stake anytime soon (arround midway between min and max age)  so likely today you should get your stake.

With growthcoin, the stakes always seems to come in at around 9 days of age (witch is middle point between min and max age).

For the record, I got my stakes already, but my blocks were from May, I know Tranz's were too. So likely, those that already had their stakes, were from May too!

You could also be out of luck (but I doubt it this is what we are seeing)

Lastly, and this goes for all. Make sure you run version 2.1.  It has a patch for staking larger blocks.


Let us (me) know if you get your stake today or tomorrow

[FlungSpun]

MY wallet doesn't seem to be staking either.  I haven't had it open 24/7 but I have high coin weight and have kept it open for several hours at a time. Will try troulbe shooting it soon.

Same here. My coin weight is 171447 and ive had my computer on for 2 days.

what's the exact date of each block you have ready for stake?

Non staking blocks. There is also a tiddler of 0.998 which I moved to another address.

Code:

Status: 42845 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:00
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: e6c8b0075d341008fe35da80213e7ff7068178ea382632b60ac70dc640275d2f

Status: 42822 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:10
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 62aa70d5add1333ddd42a0bb7f91c77ee94206958616376dadf6730cb2c7521c

Status: 42807 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:25
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA 
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 824c3d78fa5bb62817590d967eeb6b012c0398ff7128030e059cee6e3d14cdbd

Status: 42804 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:29
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 0244f1ab01d6d5762abe962fd5b10fdb7c47cceb6697410fe9c6bb53e064dbd3

The first one is obviously the devils block 6/6 @18:00
I just noticed this.

It seems that you blocks are old enough, but I wonder if this is not the same thing I experience with GrowthCoin. min/max age is 15/45 days. so I guess you should get your stake anytime soon (arround midway between min and max age)  so likely today you should get your stake.

With growthcoin, the stakes always seems to come in at around 9 days of age (witch is middle point between min and max age).

For the record, I got my stakes already, but my blocks were from May, I know Tranz's were too. So likely, those that already had their stakes, were from May too!

You could also be out of luck (but I doubt it this is what we are seeing)

Lastly, and this goes for all. Make sure you run version 2.1.  It has a patch for staking larger blocks.


Let us (me) know if you get your stake today or tomorrow

Well still no luck yet. guess we will have to wait and see.
I'm used to big HBN blocks staking almost immediately. Been doing 100s of little ones recently though - feel a block combining session coming on

[PressF1]

I can only say in my case staking works without any problems.
I work with version 2.1, 13 active connections and blocks from may with weight over 50K.

The strangest thing  to me is that I haven't had one single orphan even after 100 times staking.
And i don't even have a pack with the devil..

[unick]

MY wallet doesn't seem to be staking either.  I haven't had it open 24/7 but I have high coin weight and have kept it open for several hours at a time. Will try troulbe shooting it soon.

Same here. My coin weight is 171447 and ive had my computer on for 2 days.

what's the exact date of each block you have ready for stake?

Non staking blocks. There is also a tiddler of 0.998 which I moved to another address.

Code:

Status: 42845 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:00
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: e6c8b0075d341008fe35da80213e7ff7068178ea382632b60ac70dc640275d2f

Status: 42822 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:10
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 62aa70d5add1333ddd42a0bb7f91c77ee94206958616376dadf6730cb2c7521c

Status: 42807 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:25
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA 
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 824c3d78fa5bb62817590d967eeb6b012c0398ff7128030e059cee6e3d14cdbd

Status: 42804 confirmations
Date: 06-Jun-14 18:29
From: unknown
To: Eqq3Ed9UEDLEa16Jg8degVV3ESFWvnK9pA
Credit: 10000.00 CAP
Net amount: +10000.00 CAP
Transaction ID: 0244f1ab01d6d5762abe962fd5b10fdb7c47cceb6697410fe9c6bb53e064dbd3

The first one is obviously the devils block 6/6 @18:00
I just noticed this.

It seems that you blocks are old enough, but I wonder if this is not the same thing I experience with GrowthCoin. min/max age is 15/45 days. so I guess you should get your stake anytime soon (arround midway between min and max age)  so likely today you should get your stake.

With growthcoin, the stakes always seems to come in at around 9 days of age (witch is middle point between min and max age).

For the record, I got my stakes already, but my blocks were from May, I know Tranz's were too. So likely, those that already had their stakes, were from May too!

You could also be out of luck (but I doubt it this is what we are seeing)

Lastly, and this goes for all. Make sure you run version 2.1.  It has a patch for staking larger blocks.


Let us (me) know if you get your stake today or tomorrow

Well still no luck yet. guess we will have to wait and see.
I'm used to big HBN blocks staking almost immediately. Been doing 100s of little ones recently though - feel a block combining session coming on

Yeah, I know HBN stakes relatively close to the min stake age.  Your first transaction was at 18:00, so it's about 4 hours from now right? (or is that your local time) in any case, I'd bet you will stake close after that time.

That would be the best scenario, worst case you'd have to wait another 15 days !

EDIT: @PressF1, do you know how old were your blocks when they staked?

[FlungSpun]

Yeah I'm GMT+1 so about 2-3 hours

[PressF1]

EDIT: @PressF1, do you know how old were your blocks when they staked?
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Not exactly but more or less i do, cause the older they are the more stake they produce, combine that with the amount staking and you can get an idea of their coinage:

Say your block is 100 cap at day 15 it has a weight of 0 and a stake percentage of 8.3%
At day 30 weight is 1500 (1 per cap per day) with a stake percentage of 16.6% and so on.

so if your block of 100 produces a stake 17 you know it's age must have been 30days=1500 weight
In this example the yearly pos rate is 200%. If it gets lower you should take that in account.

One thing I don't take in account is max of 45 days in caps case. Then probably the weight isn't getting larger anymore so no need for complex calculations anymore. Haven't observed this though, so not sure about that.


  

[unick]

EDIT: @PressF1, do you know how old were your blocks when they staked?

Not exactly but more or less i do, cause the older they are the more stake they produce, combine that with the amount staking and you can get an idea of their coinage:

Say your block is 100 cap at day 15 it has a weight of 0 and a stake percentage of 8.3%
At day 30 weight is 1500 (1 per cap per day) with a stake percentage of 16.6% and so on.

so if your block of 100 produces a stake 17 you know it's age must have been 30days=1500 weight
In this example the yearly pos rate is 200%. If it gets lower you should take that in account.

One thing I don't take in account is max of 45 days in caps case. Then probably the weight isn't getting larger anymore so no need for complex calculations anymore. Haven't observed this though, so not sure about that.


  

I was asking in order to support my theory, were you about at 30 days of age, or more ?

[PressF1]

EDIT: @PressF1, do you know how old were your blocks when they staked?

Not exactly but more or less i do, cause the older they are the more stake they produce, combine that with the amount staking and you can get an idea of their coinage:

Say your block is 100 cap at day 15 it has a weight of 0 and a stake percentage of 8.3%
At day 30 weight is 1500 (1 per cap per day) with a stake percentage of 16.6% and so on.

so if your block of 100 produces a stake 17 you know it's age must have been 30days=1500 weight
In this example the yearly pos rate is 200%. If it gets lower you should take that in account.

One thing I don't take in account is max of 45 days in caps case. Then probably the weight isn't getting larger anymore so no need for complex calculations anymore. Haven't observed this though, so not sure about that.


  

I was asking in order to support my theory, were you about at 30 days of age, or more ?

Yes all the blocks that staked were older than 30 days. 33 days is observed minimum. I must add that most of my blocks are quite old though. If I don't forget I'll let you know when stakes < 30 days occur.

EDIT: I get where you're going. Maybe somewhere in the code the original 30 days minimum was not reset to 15 days.

[FlungSpun]

EDIT: @PressF1, do you know how old were your blocks when they staked?

Not exactly but more or less i do, cause the older they are the more stake they produce, combine that with the amount staking and you can get an idea of their coinage:

Say your block is 100 cap at day 15 it has a weight of 0 and a stake percentage of 8.3%
At day 30 weight is 1500 (1 per cap per day) with a stake percentage of 16.6% and so on.

so if your block of 100 produces a stake 17 you know it's age must have been 30days=1500 weight
In this example the yearly pos rate is 200%. If it gets lower you should take that in account.

One thing I don't take in account is max of 45 days in caps case. Then probably the weight isn't getting larger anymore so no need for complex calculations anymore. Haven't observed this though, so not sure about that.


  

I was asking in order to support my theory, were you about at 30 days of age, or more ?

Yes all the blocks that staked were older than 30 days. 33 days is observed minimum. I must add that most of my blocks are quite old though. If I don't forget I'll let you know when stakes < 30 days occur.

I guess the only other thing that needs confirming (I think I have seen this on the explorers already)
Is that stakes that should be receiving more than the cap are being pegged back to 1k and not ignored or rejected
obviously my blocks would have got significantly more than 1k but I am expecting 1k exactly per block

[unick]

EDIT: @PressF1, do you know how old were your blocks when they staked?

Not exactly but more or less i do, cause the older they are the more stake they produce, combine that with the amount staking and you can get an idea of their coinage:

Say your block is 100 cap at day 15 it has a weight of 0 and a stake percentage of 8.3%
At day 30 weight is 1500 (1 per cap per day) with a stake percentage of 16.6% and so on.

so if your block of 100 produces a stake 17 you know it's age must have been 30days=1500 weight
In this example the yearly pos rate is 200%. If it gets lower you should take that in account.

One thing I don't take in account is max of 45 days in caps case. Then probably the weight isn't getting larger anymore so no need for complex calculations anymore. Haven't observed this though, so not sure about that.

I was asking in order to support my theory, were you about at 30 days of age, or more ?

Yes all the blocks that staked were older than 30 days. 33 days is observed minimum. I must add that most of my blocks are quite old though. If I don't forget I'll let you know when stakes < 30 days occur.

Ok thanks, it's good to know.

so far it looks like what I observed on GrowthCoin, no stake was generated under 9 days there.

I'll keep an eye on the 33 days minimum. So I guess if flungspun doesn't get his stake around 6pm tonight... then the next target to look for would be around 33 days.

It would be good to know if anyone can report a stake before 30 days (or near the minimum age)

[unick]

EDIT: @PressF1, do you know how old were your blocks when they staked?

Not exactly but more or less i do, cause the older they are the more stake they produce, combine that with the amount staking and you can get an idea of their coinage:

Say your block is 100 cap at day 15 it has a weight of 0 and a stake percentage of 8.3%
At day 30 weight is 1500 (1 per cap per day) with a stake percentage of 16.6% and so on.

so if your block of 100 produces a stake 17 you know it's age must have been 30days=1500 weight
In this example the yearly pos rate is 200%. If it gets lower you should take that in account.

One thing I don't take in account is max of 45 days in caps case. Then probably the weight isn't getting larger anymore so no need for complex calculations anymore. Haven't observed this though, so not sure about that.


  

I was asking in order to support my theory, were you about at 30 days of age, or more ?

Yes all the blocks that staked were older than 30 days. 33 days is observed minimum. I must add that most of my blocks are quite old though. If I don't forget I'll let you know when stakes < 30 days occur.

I guess the only other thing that needs confirming (I think I have seen this on the explorers already)
Is that stakes that should be receiving more than the cap are being pegged back to 1k and not ignored or rejected
obviously my blocks would have got significantly more than 1k but I am expecting 1k exactly per block

I've had a 5k block of exactly 46 day old, got 1000 CAP on the 4th. if there was no cap, I would of seen 1260 CAP.  if it had a bug, I wouldn' t have seen anything. so I can confirm everything runs smooth.

There is just this mid min/max range threshold before staking that bugs me

[PressF1]

EDIT: @PressF1, do you know how old were your blocks when they staked?

Not exactly but more or less i do, cause the older they are the more stake they produce, combine that with the amount staking and you can get an idea of their coinage:

Say your block is 100 cap at day 15 it has a weight of 0 and a stake percentage of 8.3%
At day 30 weight is 1500 (1 per cap per day) with a stake percentage of 16.6% and so on.

so if your block of 100 produces a stake 17 you know it's age must have been 30days=1500 weight
In this example the yearly pos rate is 200%. If it gets lower you should take that in account.

One thing I don't take in account is max of 45 days in caps case. Then probably the weight isn't getting larger anymore so no need for complex calculations anymore. Haven't observed this though, so not sure about that.


  

I was asking in order to support my theory, were you about at 30 days of age, or more ?

Yes all the blocks that staked were older than 30 days. 33 days is observed minimum. I must add that most of my blocks are quite old though. If I don't forget I'll let you know when stakes < 30 days occur.

I guess the only other thing that needs confirming (I think I have seen this on the explorers already)
Is that stakes that should be receiving more than the cap are being pegged back to 1k and not ignored or rejected
obviously my blocks would have got significantly more than 1k but I am expecting 1k exactly per block

I've had a 5k block of exactly 46 day old, got 1000 CAP on the 4th. if there was no cap, I would of seen 1260 CAP.  if it had a bug, I wouldn' t have seen anything. so I can confirm everything runs smooth.

There is just this mid min/max range threshold before staking that bugs me

I have seen the 1000 max stake at work as well in the BC. So I guess that's fine. I looked more closely to my stakes and made more precise calculations and must come to the conclusion that my observed minimum is a little larger than earlier estimated: 35 days, never less.