[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process

[klee]

You don't know what neo's role in this is.

I suggest you wait and see rather than jump to conclusions.

What we do know is that we have no information. Which in itself is bullshit with so much money on the line. "Legal reason" is also bullshit.

Really? So why don't you use legal routes? It seems to be very easy for you - or it is not?
But making noise here is easy for sure - I doubt it is fruitful though...

[wmcleod]

I lost my 2factor auth.
What's going to happen to my shares?  I have my public address listed.

[jimmothy]

You don't know what neo's role in this is.

I suggest you wait and see rather than jump to conclusions.

What we do know is that we have no information. Which in itself is bullshit with so much money on the line. "Legal reason" is also bullshit.

Really? So why don't you use legal routes? It seems to be very easy for you - or it is not?
But making noise here is easy for sure - I doubt it is fruitful though...

Fortunately I have no money stuck in weex. But I would suggest legal action be taken against ukyo. If not I wouldn't be surprised if a month later we still have no more info/progress.

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Fortunately I have no money stuck in weex. But I would suggest legal action be taken against ukyo. If not I wouldn't be surprised if a month later we still have no more info/progress.

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[ffssixtynine]

Fortunately I have no money stuck in weex. But I would suggest legal action be taken against ukyo. If not I wouldn't be surprised if a month later we still have no more info/progress.

Another poster with no money stuck stirring the pot. The legal argument isn't bullshit as you'll see.

[klee]

Fortunately I have no money stuck in weex. But I would suggest legal action be taken against ukyo. If not I wouldn't be surprised if a month later we still have no more info/progress.

Another poster with no money stuck stirring the pot. The legal argument isn't bullshit as you'll see.

I did not even bother to answer to him..

[ffssixtynine]

More news Friday. No idea if this will be a minor update or more.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3818280#msg3818280

[jimmothy]

More news Friday. No idea if this will be a minor update or more.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3818280#msg3818280

I guarantee it will be an extremely vague statement like "we are totally working on it don't worry just a bit longer but for legal reasons we cant let you know anything.

If we actually get info about the actual problem regardless of whether the situation is better or worse than speculated it would still be nice to know what happened.

Fucking up is ok and happens to everyone. Going silent for 2 months holding more than a million usd hostage is not.

[shaza4061]

hi guys, i was shocked to hear what had happened to bitfunder. I have some bitcoins there as a result from the divided received from my holding. BitFunder site said that " On December 2, 2013, bitcoin balances in the accounts of all users will be transferred to their WeExchange accounts." However, when I checked my WeExchange account, no bitcoins were credited. Is there a delay, or have I been cheated? Any of you guys received your bitcoin from bitfunder into your weexchange account? btw, i am not a us citizen and not a verified member of weexchange. Can anybody advise me on this?

[moribana]

hi guys, i was shocked to hear what had happened to bitfunder. I have some bitcoins there as a result from the divided received from my holding. BitFunder site said that " On December 2, 2013, bitcoin balances in the accounts of all users will be transferred to their WeExchange accounts." However, when I checked my WeExchange account, no bitcoins were credited. Is there a delay, or have I been cheated? Any of you guys received your bitcoin from bitfunder into your weexchange account? btw, i am not a us citizen and not a verified member of weexchange. Can anybody advise me on this?

Here is the story so far:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337523.0

So the bottom line is nobody knows whether we get our coins from Bf/WeEx. We are waiting to hear what the deal is with Neo & Bee and there is not even a vague estimate of when we can have any useful information about that.

[WeexUser]

hi guys, i was shocked to hear what had happened to bitfunder. I have some bitcoins there as a result from the divided received from my holding. BitFunder site said that " On December 2, 2013, bitcoin balances in the accounts of all users will be transferred to their WeExchange accounts." However, when I checked my WeExchange account, no bitcoins were credited. Is there a delay, or have I been cheated? Any of you guys received your bitcoin from bitfunder into your weexchange account? btw, i am not a us citizen and not a verified member of weexchange. Can anybody advise me on this?

Ukyo wrote this on #bitfunder half an hour ago:

<@Ukyo> on or by today
<@Ukyo> changes: Shares moved to issuers for permenant list. remaining balances moved to weex accounts.

So the bottom line is nobody knows whether we get our coins from Bf/WeEx. We are waiting to hear what the deal is with Neo & Bee and there is not even a vague estimate of when we can have any useful information about that.

I will make an announcement this Friday surrounding the WeExchange issue.

[shaza4061]

thanks for the update. guess I can only pray to get my money back as of now 

[N_S]

thanks for the update. guess I can only pray to get my money back as of now 

Your position for that to happen has gotten significantly better.

[mgs]

I wonder about the G.ASICMINER dividends that haven't been paid yet.

[pascal257]

I wonder about the G.ASICMINER dividends that haven't been paid yet.

Most likely Ukyo has "technical issues" paying the dividends.

[ThickAsThieves]

I can confirm that Friedcat will pay the back dividends once he has the final list from Ukyo.

[mgs]

I can confirm that Friedcat will pay the back dividends once he has the final list from Ukyo.

Excellent news, thank you TAT.

[roussillon]

I lost my 2factor auth.
What's going to happen to my shares?  I have my public address listed.

Me too and since 3 week 
many ask on chat of bitfunder (one by day during 2 week) No response.

Now BF is down, do you know how can I go and ask for an action of ukyo ?
I have the same problem for my weexhange acount 

[WeexUser]

I lost my 2factor auth.
What's going to happen to my shares?  I have my public address listed.

Me too and since 3 week 
many ask on chat of bitfunder (one by day during 2 week) No response.

Now BF is down, do you know how can I go and ask for an action of ukyo ?
I have the same problem for my weexhange acount 

You will have to contact Ukyo on IRC. It is on Freenode at #bitfunder and #weex. I think he is online right now

[jimmydorry]

So what was this resolution process? All we know is that Neo & Bee are involved in this mess somehow now.

This is pretty piss poor management of the issue. I know that my outlook of Neo & Bee has dropped significantly as a result of this.

Maybe you are not aware of the latest zipzap deal then...
Are you one of those who dumped shares? Go @Havelock and take a look again...

Not sure why you would jump to the conclusion that I dumped shares. I am aware of the deal... but like I said, my outlook of N&B management dropped as a result of this. "Just trust me to do something with your money" from N&B does not exactly inspire confidence.

So what was this resolution process? All we know is that Neo & Bee are involved in this mess somehow now.

This is pretty piss poor management of the issue. I know that my outlook of Neo & Bee has dropped significantly as a result of this.

I really don't understand this mindset. We have a shitty situation and now have an established company stepping in to try and help resolve the issues. I've asked this before of people voicing similar opinions, but what more do you want? The fact of the matter is, people aren't able to get their coins at the moment. No amount of yelling and stomping your feet is going to change that. But then when it's stated that instead of one person (Ukyo) trying to solve the problem, we get an additional company to help as well, this is somehow seen as a negative?

If Neo & Bee somehow manage to lose more coins as a result of stepping in, then you'd have a case. But in literally any other scenario, their assistance isn't hurting anyone. Quite the opposite in fact.

What's not to understand? We have a shitty situation, and now an "established" company is stepping in to do something that they can't tell us anything about. The situation is not any less shitty, as all we know is the N&B is somehow involved (and the longer we left in the dark, the shiftier it looks). I reserve the right to point out that an announcement of an announcement of an announcement is not really helping the situation.

How do we know that N&B is helping, and in what capacity of helping should we feel more comfortable? For all we know, N&B could just be preparing to acquire WeExchange... or simply putting Ukyo in contact with another developer... what makes you think that this is automatically a positive?