[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process

[Ukyo]

I cant withdraw. I get the error message "error: Invalid Password" always. I guess your portal is cutting passwords since my pass is very long with special signs of all kinds. Username LYCOZ.

But im not happy at all. 6.175% is a breadcrumb and i cant imagine why you have to be silent about the reason. It simply makes no sense to me.

You claim its a legal reason. You being forced to be silent by government is unlikely since cryptocircus claimed he would have spoken about way earlier but accepts your wish. Not speaking about things only could make sense in order to not inform the delinquent of observations done to him. If thats the case... you really think a potential hacker will come back so you can follow his traces? He already knows what he did and he cant be warned with you coming out with the truth. He will avoid using any of his previous ways anyway if he is smart only a small portion.

Bah... im so tired of this communication politics.

Will i get to know the reason when i go the lawyer route??? Unfortunately the forum lawyer still didnt answer. Doesnt make the best impression to behave that way.

Well, the system is using the exact same password authentication method as the login.
We want to tell everyone the exact details of what happen and hope to be able to do so as soon as possible.
It would certainly make things much easier.

-Ukyo

[Ukyo]

I'm asking if I'm required to take dust payments, or if I can just wait until it is solvent and take a 100% payment once.  6% barely amounts to a couple dollars, so it doesn't seem worth the effort unless I will lose it.

I can't say it will be available for years or anything however there are currently no plans to negate any balances.
These balances belong to you. The short, you do not have to take dust transactions.

-Ukyo

[shaza4061]

Ukyo, my balance in weexchange.co is now 0!!! last time i check, i have 0.10801890 btc which I can't withdraw due to "2nd stage error". Where is my money?

[Rannasha]

Ukyo, my balance in weexchange.co is now 0!!! last time i check, i have 0.10801890 btc which I can't withdraw due to "2nd stage error". Where is my money?

You could try and read the last few pages.

[redmetal]

Ukyo, my balance in weexchange.co is now 0!!! last time i check, i have 0.10801890 btc which I can't withdraw due to "2nd stage error". Where is my money?

go to https://weexclaims.weexchange.co/

[Ukyo]

Also,

When you log into weexchange you see:

"NOTE: Any bitcoin balance has been moved to a new claim portal at https://weexclaims.weexchange.co/.
You may see a negative balance on this system until some further adjustments are made."

Hope this helps.

-Ukyo

[BigCstyle]

6.175% seems to be the magic number...I look forward to the future when the remainder is paid.

I appreciate on the portal site how it keeps track of the remaining that is stuck. It's reassuring that the record keeping side of things is still legit.

To all the people moving towards getting a lawyer, please just settle down. He clearly isn't going anywhere, he clearly was/is at Neo headquarters, things seem to be moving in a direction of resolution (a lil).
Chill out. It's getting tiresome. The more time spent with all those shenanigans the less time he/they will have to come up with a solution.

I am patient. With that said, I want what's mine.
I don't know the reasons for this situation, but I would like to reference this:

Has no one given it the thought that by revealing too much information could result in a decreased chance of getting those coins back?

This was interesting to me. No I didn't think of that, and I trust that as a third party statement there may be some meaning behind this.

[roussillon]

Thank ukyo for having disable my 2Fa for BF and Weexhange.
Like other I was able to withdraw 6% of my balance. 

BF was a good site and i likes use it for a while.
But problem whith withdraw suck and more than that, the leakness of communication was awful.

During 6 week I ask you too reset my 2FA and did not have any information...
I made the same request for other service and the less faster was mtgox whtih 10 day for a reply ; other service answer in 2 or 4 day ...


Anyway  I'm happy to see that you are always here and make you best to find a solution.

[alittledevil]

Ukyo how long does the withdraw process takes from the weexclaims? as my withdraw transaction was successful( been 1.5hour)

[Dark_Angel]

+1. Successful withdrawal, but not in blockchain. 11 blocks has passed.

success: Withdraw completed transaction id: 6b55f9fb200da67ef01d68af82100834b33d644b04f30935e5698fec0d2f2b12

[Fabrizio89]

+1. Successful withdrawal, but not in blockchain. 11 blocks has passed.

success: Withdraw completed transaction id: 6b55f9fb200da67ef01d68af82100834b33d644b04f30935e5698fec0d2f2b12

Uh, most likely a corrupted wallet.

[Dark_Angel]

+1. Successful withdrawal, but not in blockchain. 11 blocks has passed.

success: Withdraw completed transaction id: 6b55f9fb200da67ef01d68af82100834b33d644b04f30935e5698fec0d2f2b12

Uh, most likely a corrupted wallet.

Or not enough funds, as it happened before.

[SeBTC]

Confirming return of 6% of outstanding sum owed. Small steps, I suppose.

[Ukyo]

+1. Successful withdrawal, but not in blockchain. 11 blocks has passed.

success: Withdraw completed transaction id: 6b55f9fb200da67ef01d68af82100834b33d644b04f30935e5698fec0d2f2b12

Uh, most likely a corrupted wallet.

Or not enough funds, as it happened before.

Funds are there.
DB has no record of the txn id.
Bitcoind has no record of the txn id.
Blockchain still has no record of the txn id.

PM me your username and I will take a look at your account.

-Ukyo

[Kosmatos]

Has no one given it the thought that by revealing too much information could result in a decreased chance of getting those coins back?

This was interesting to me. No I didn't think of that, and I trust that as a third party statement there may be some meaning behind this.

Just speculating:

There could be a vulnerability with bitcoin itself that makes (in Danny's words, paraphrasing as far as I can recall them) "our requests seem petty", which would explain the secrecy, but not the part about being legally bound by U.S. laws to keep quiet. It would explain the secrecy because if the vulnerability was exposed, more theft would occur. So they may be fixing the vulnerability with the core dev team, and can make an announcement when it is patched.

To me (as one who doesn't think we are being scammed, at least not by Ukyo and Danny), there's something insidious going on with some hackers and the battle isn't won quite yet. There's also lawyers/contracts involved, possibly gag orders. Two parts to this story we don't know.

[crumbs]

Just speculating:

There could be a vulnerability with bitcoin itself that makes (in Danny's words, paraphrasing as far as I can recall them) "our requests seem petty", which would explain the secrecy, but not the part about being legally bound by U.S. laws to keep quiet. It would explain the secrecy because if the vulnerability was exposed, more theft would occur. So they may be fixing the vulnerability with the core dev team, and can make an announcement when it is patched.

To me (as one who doesn't think we are being scammed, at least not by Ukyo and Danny), there's something insidious going on with some hackers and the battle isn't won quite yet. There's also lawyers/contracts involved, possibly gag orders. Two parts to this story we don't know.

I think the boldface text pretty much precludes a bitcoin vulnerability.
If it does exist, and was discovered due to a hack, it's safe to say the hacker already knows about it, making Ukyo's and Danny's secrecy pointless.

[SebastianJu]

Well, the system is using the exact same password authentication method as the login.

Thats why i can login at the portal. Only when i try to withdraw i get that errormessage.

[SebastianJu]

6.175% seems to be the magic number...I look forward to the future when the remainder is paid.

I appreciate on the portal site how it keeps track of the remaining that is stuck. It's reassuring that the record keeping side of things is still legit.

To all the people moving towards getting a lawyer, please just settle down. He clearly isn't going anywhere, he clearly was/is at Neo headquarters, things seem to be moving in a direction of resolution (a lil).
Chill out. It's getting tiresome. The more time spent with all those shenanigans the less time he/they will have to come up with a solution.

I am patient. With that said, I want what's mine.

I guess you dont wait since 2 months checking the forum daily for news and you dont have much at stake. If i risk one bitcoin only i would be relaxed too.
Ukyo never spent much time on shenanigans when he had work. Obviously he cant do much yet.

[VolanicEruptor]

now we're all only 94% ripped off 

[B-cat]

Great news! things are moving FORWARD!
I have 6.58% back. EDIT: 6.175%

Ukyo and Danny, thanks and keep it up.

It'll be interesting to know what happened technically for this to happen.