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January 14, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
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Ukyo is allegedly not allowed to say what happened to the coins yet, due to them being involved in some legal dispute.
Do you have a source for this claim?
Danny has stated it would be illegal to speak about the bitfunder situation under US law. Don't think there has been any more info.
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January 15, 2014, 12:07:21 AM
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You must be some sort of shrill account.  Did you lose all a lot of bitcoin through the WeExchange scam, and then come to this forum to make a new account, just posting how you believe Ukyo's BS?  You are either a severe idiot, or you are Ukyo, or you are being paid by Ukyo. Which one is it? I just can't fathom that anyone could be this happy and trusting when having their money stolen.

I mean anyone reading this: just go through WeexUser's post history.  Why would anyone of their own violation lose funds to WeExchange and then feel such resolve to post upwards of 70+ messages supporting the laughably thin premise that something legitimate happened to all of our deposits, instead of the much more likely answer: that we have been ripped off.
I made this account because I didn't see anyone (at that point) reporting having as many btc stuck as I do. Ukyo currently owe me more than 100btc.
I am obviously following this situation very close here on the forums and especially on IRC, to continuously try to detect any inconsistencies made by Jon or Danny that could prove this to be a scam.
Having followed this situation so close, I really think it is unlikely that Jon is a scammer.

Note that unlike you and some other people here who just spread unnecessary FUD, I try to post the provable facts of this situation. Every time I post something we can't prove at the moment, I make that fact clear by using words like "allegedly", "Ukyo said", quotes, etc. I also try to make it clear if I am speculating on what might have happened.


Anyways, here is the latest news from IRC #bitfunder today:
Ukyo had allegedly encountered problems while trying to update his custom bitcoind client as a quick fix the bad block issue.
He says that he will probably continue working on a new solution that is independent of the bitcoind version. A solution that wasn't possible when the system was originally implemented due to functionality added in later versions of bitcoind.(provable)
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January 15, 2014, 12:12:08 AM
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You must be some sort of shrill account.  Did you lose all a lot of bitcoin through the WeExchange scam, and then come to this forum to make a new account, just posting how you believe Ukyo's BS?  You are either a severe idiot, or you are Ukyo, or you are being paid by Ukyo. Which one is it? I just can't fathom that anyone could be this happy and trusting when having their money stolen.

I mean anyone reading this: just go through WeexUser's post history.  Why would anyone of their own violation lose funds to WeExchange and then feel such resolve to post upwards of 70+ messages supporting the laughably thin premise that something legitimate happened to all of our deposits, instead of the much more likely answer: that we have been ripped off.
I made this account because I didn't see anyone (at that point) reporting having as many btc stuck as I do. Ukyo currently owe me more than 100btc.
I am obviously following this situation very close here on the forums and especially on IRC, to continuously try to detect any inconsistencies made by Jon or Danny that could prove this to be a scam.
Having followed this situation so close, I really think it is unlikely that Jon is a scammer.

Note that unlike you and some other people here who just spread unnecessary FUD, I try to post the provable facts of this situation. Every time I post something we can't prove at the moment, I make that fact clear by using words like "allegedly", "Ukyo said", quotes, etc. I also try to make it clear if I am speculating on what might have happened.


Anyways, here is the latest news from IRC #bitfunder today:
Ukyo had allegedly encountered problems while trying to update his custom bitcoind client as a quick fix the bad block issue.
He says that he will probably continue working on a new solution that is independent of the bitcoind version. A solution that wasn't possible when the system was originally implemented due to functionality added in later versions of bitcoind.(provable)

Yup, everything about you reeks of bullshit. I'm guessing you are either a sockpuppet of Jon (ukyo) or one of his buddies. I'm 100% positive you're enjoying using other people's stolen funds.

Don't bother replying. You're on my ignore list now.

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January 15, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
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How much longer are people going to give this, before they write off whats been taken, and pursue what ever it is they feel should happen?

Jon. How much more trust and patience do we give you? Cant be indefinate.
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January 15, 2014, 02:52:32 PM
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How much longer are people going to give this, before they write off whats been taken, and pursue what ever it is they feel should happen?

Jon. How much more trust and patience do we give you? Cant be indefinate.


Yes, we need more info, Jon.

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January 15, 2014, 08:34:58 PM
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I made this account because I didn't see anyone (at that point) reporting having as many btc stuck as I do. Ukyo currently owe me more than 100btc.

There are others that lost way more. I wonder why the thread with the list of claims doesnt contain the list anymore...
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January 15, 2014, 09:19:43 PM
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I made this account because I didn't see anyone (at that point) reporting having as many btc stuck as I do. Ukyo currently owe me more than 100btc.

There are others that lost way more. I wonder why the thread with the list of claims doesnt contain the list anymore...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aja0Sx1iSRWqdHVMOVI2NlE1azQzbHNGdlUzVmJVVmc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
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January 15, 2014, 09:43:00 PM
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I have 69 shares Asiсminer. How do I receive dividends?
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January 16, 2014, 12:32:11 AM
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I have 69 shares Asiсminer. How do I receive dividends?
You have to convert them into direct shares first. Ukyo made a website especially for that: https://amclaims.weexchange.co/
You will receive your dividends when Friedcat transfer your shares. (typically within a week)
More details about the process can be found in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148827.msg4224287#msg4224287


There are others that lost way more.
I am well aware that others (including you) have lost way more than I do but they hadn't reported it publicly at the time.


I wonder why the thread with the list of claims doesnt contain the list anymore...
The author of the claim thread removed the list from the post and said it was deleted by mods who were collaborating with Ukyo.
The author then later admitted that he was the one who removed it, so he was basically just spreading FUD Roll Eyes
Highlights from the story:
None of you will ever see a dime, Admins on this board are collaborators with Ukyo.
allright, I will stop being a child, I deleted them because of spite, how admins deleted my post about Ukyo's two kids......

Who is the kids now......... <---- this guy
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January 16, 2014, 03:48:10 AM
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I have 69 shares Asiсminer. How do I receive dividends?
You have to convert them into direct shares first. Ukyo made a website especially for that: https://amclaims.weexchange.co/
You will receive your dividends when Friedcat transfer your shares. (typically within a week)
More details about the process can be found in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148827.msg4224287#msg4224287


There are others that lost way more.
I am well aware that others (including you) have lost way more than I do but they hadn't reported it publicly at the time.


I wonder why the thread with the list of claims doesnt contain the list anymore...
The author of the claim thread removed the list from the post and said it was deleted by mods who were collaborating with Ukyo.
The author then later admitted that he was the one who removed it, so he was basically just spreading FUD Roll Eyes
Highlights from the story:
None of you will ever see a dime, Admins on this board are collaborators with Ukyo.
allright, I will stop being a child, I deleted them because of spite, how admins deleted my post about Ukyo's two kids......

Who is the kids now......... <---- this guy

When do you expect we have some good news from Ukyo? Thanks

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January 16, 2014, 05:48:38 AM
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SO..No more news,Danny?
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January 16, 2014, 07:06:38 AM
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anyone knows the new weexchange url?
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January 16, 2014, 01:49:34 PM
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Sorry if this was already addressed but I don't have time to go through all the posts.
My weex account is now showing 0 available, 0 withdrawn, 0 everything. Is this happening to anybody else?
thx

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January 16, 2014, 01:56:40 PM
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I wonder why the thread with the list of claims doesnt contain the list anymore...
The author of the claim thread removed the list from the post and said it was deleted by mods who were collaborating with Ukyo.
The author then later admitted that he was the one who removed it, so he was basically just spreading FUD Roll Eyes
Highlights from the story:
None of you will ever see a dime, Admins on this board are collaborators with Ukyo.
allright, I will stop being a child, I deleted them because of spite, how admins deleted my post about Ukyo's two kids......

Who is the kids now......... <---- this guy

Ah... thats what happened... didnt notice this somehow.

Ukyo... i hope your plans work. Somehow it sounds like you still work on a technical solution to get the coins back. It doesnt match to you claiming that the coins are gone "how you have seen" but i think short time its better to let you try things.
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January 16, 2014, 02:20:33 PM
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anyone knows the new weexchange url?
http://weexclaims.weexchange.co/ (you should see this link if you login to weex as well)
Note that Ukyo might not yet have fixed his bitcoind client which was broken by the "block 277596 issue".


My weex account is now showing 0 available, 0 withdrawn, 0 everything. Is this happening to anybody else?
That has happened before. Here is thread where Ukyo describes the problem: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg4071275#msg4071275
I guess it is related to Ukyo working on the backend at the moment.


When do you expect we have some good news from Ukyo? Thanks
I don't expect that we will get any information about whatever happened with the funds for quite a while.
But I personally expect that he in this month will make an announcement about the "alternative methods" he have been talking about.
Ukyo also recently said on IRC that he is "hoping to have the details of the plans solidified soon".
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January 16, 2014, 02:21:24 PM
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My weex account is now showing 0 available, 0 withdrawn, 0 everything. Is this happening to anybody else?
That has happened before. Here is thread where Ukyo describes the problem: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg4071275#msg4071275
I guess it is related to Ukyo working on the backend at the moment.

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January 16, 2014, 05:04:23 PM
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I don't expect that we will get any information about whatever happened with the funds for quite a while.
But I personally expect that he in this month will make an announcement about the "alternative methods" he have been talking about.
Ukyo also recently said on IRC that he is "hoping to have the details of the plans solidified soon".
Mmmmh, that delicious smell of BS
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January 16, 2014, 11:35:37 PM
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I don't expect that we will get any information about whatever happened with the funds for quite a while.
But I personally expect that he in this month will make an announcement about the "alternative methods" he have been talking about.
Ukyo also recently said on IRC that he is "hoping to have the details of the plans solidified soon".
Mmmmh, that delicious smell of BS

Still the best bet to get something back at the moment. Everything other includes very big waiting time and can be done anytime later too.
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January 17, 2014, 12:12:31 AM
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The plan being most likely to get coins back from coinlenders. I would not count on it.
That, or some incredible timeline coincidence. Which is still possible, of course. Grin

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January 17, 2014, 03:24:51 AM
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Basically what Ukyo is doing is saying stuff along the lines of 'announcement coming next week' and empty promises every week until everyone just sorts of lose interest and gives up on getting their stolen coins back.  This has been working for 2 months now and just continues to roll on.
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