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February 18, 2016, 05:44:05 PM
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I did not have too much knowledge about the revolution until last night, when i watched the "Winter On Fire" documentary on netflix. Easily the best thing on netflix at the moment in my opinion. It is so well done and really gives you a feel of what was going on there. It is so amazing how the people of Ukraine came together to change the country they love for the better

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February 22, 2016, 09:26:29 PM
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Ukraine as anti-Russia: full list of goals for the 2014 Kiev Maidan and takeover of Ukraine
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/02/22/ukraine-as-anti-russia-full-list-of-goals-for-the-2014-kiev-maidan-and-takeover-of-ukraine/

Some images from the article:

They start brainwashing them from an early age! Young western Ukrainians, 2014.  Written on the wall: “Ukraine for Ukrainians.”


HitlerJugend Salute, Germany, 1939


Lvov (Lviv), western Ukraine, 1941
Pro-Bandera Western Ukrainians in national costumes greet German fascists occupying the city with the same salute


Stepan Bandera, the UPA ukro-nazis’ tsar and god, after whom they name streets and whose monuments they erect all over Ukraine, in his SS uniform


Western Ukraine Nazis, part of UPA/ SS troops executed the massacre of Poles during WWII in Volyn, western Ukraine

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These same dark entities, serving foreign interests, are killing today!

On February 20-22, 2014 the Ukraine Maidan coup took place, unseating Yanukovich. It established the rule of the oligarchic Kiev junta and ukro-nazis, marking the beginning of an open political takeover of the country by the USA and other foreign interests.

In my 2014 and 2015 articles and Earth Shift Reports I have described the goals of the USA in Ukraine. I also described on many different occasions how it was done, what strings were pulled and what forces were used as fronts for the puppeteers. For example, the ukro-nazi battalions were trained in Poland and in western Ukraine by Polish and Canadian instructors. Canada and USA supplied and trained college and school teachers, PR and media specialists.

​The trainers and supervisors were normally of Bandera ukro-fascist (aka, western Ukraine Nazi – my term: ‘ukro-nazi’) origin, whose ancestors served in concentration camps and committed other crimes during World War II, having escaped justice to Canada and USA after Hitler’s defeat. Consequently, they held enormous grudge against those who caused this defeat, namely, Russians. Some of these people lived in Canada or USA all these years, dreaming of vendetta generation after generation. Their unevolved and vengeful nature is being exploited very well by the puppet masters.

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Full article at:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/02/22/ukraine-as-anti-russia-full-list-of-goals-for-the-2014-kiev-maidan-and-takeover-of-ukraine/

Also, make sure to watch the video in:

Dutch Referendum on Ukraine: EU Pressures Voters to Approve Kiev-EU Asssociation
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/02/22/dutch-referendum-on-ukraine-eu-pressures-voters-to-approve-kiev-eu-asssociation/

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Dutch referendum on Ukraine is looming. In the run up to it, EU and US pressure voters to approve Kiev-EU association. Various tactics, from brainwashing, threatening with Russia and the ‘new Hitler,’ to direct bribes are applied. Billionaire Soros promises 200,000 euros for YES votes.

So far, Dutch citizens don’t buy it. The preliminary poll’s results are: 44.5% YES, 55.5% NO.

Dutch journalists have leaked government plans on dealing with an upcoming referendum on a controversial treaty between the EU and Ukraine. The Association Agreement envisions closer economic, political and cultural ties between Kiev and the bloc. A ‘NO’ vote in the referendum would force Dutch politicians to reconsider the pact, which they have already approved without consulting the public.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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February 29, 2016, 01:50:30 PM
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According to the Ukrainian media (Vesti Ukraine) the Governor of Ukraine, Joe Biden forbade Poroshenko to discharge Yatsenjuk. Currently Poroshenko is trying to find a compromise with his master in Washington so as to get rid of Yatsenjuk:

http://expert.ru/2016/02/29/smi-bajden

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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February 29, 2016, 08:34:25 PM
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According to the Ukrainian media (Vesti Ukraine) the Governor of Ukraine, Joe Biden forbade Poroshenko to discharge Yatsenjuk. Currently Poroshenko is trying to find a compromise with his master in Washington so as to get rid of Yatsenjuk:

http://expert.ru/2016/02/29/smi-bajden

And the reason Yats has to stay. He voiced today the American demand that Ukraine sells 1 million hectares (out of the total of 27) of the Ukrainian arable lands to American Agro-companies (read: GMO). This despite a moratorium on sale of the state land, which was newly prolonged until 1st of January 2017.

https://lenta.ru/news/2016/02/29/gektar/

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 01, 2016, 03:29:28 PM
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government forces raiding the offices of the opposition Batkivshchyna party:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDB5TI5UFPA

looks very stressful, as bad as that why the state of the revolution in the Ukraine? how about the state of the Ukraine now? in my country is not a lot of news about the revolution in the Ukraine, I hope that the Ukraine found a good way of peace,soon.

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March 02, 2016, 08:52:17 AM
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All about for Ukrainian sources.
Pitty country stands between Rusiia and Europe.
Western cannibals and global financial monsters want to eat Russia and Ukraine is a step for that. Whoever if captures and holds Ukraine, will win advance. Ukrainian people if vote Russian supported leader, Western interferes, if vote Western supperted leader, Russia interferes.  Humping elephands crushed grasses
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March 05, 2016, 04:39:55 PM
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Belorussian borderguards do not recognise the new Ukrainian electronic passports, shaped as credit cards, which came into circulation in January 2016:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2016/03/05/n_8333903.shtml

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 06, 2016, 06:16:03 AM
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Belorussian borderguards do not recognise the new Ukrainian electronic passports, shaped as credit cards, which came into circulation in January 2016:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2016/03/05/n_8333903.shtml

Perhaps a tactic to stop the Ukrainian immigrants from coming to Belarus. I can't blame Belarus. They are a small country with limited resources. And they have already taken more than 100,000 refugees from Ukraine, without receiving any help from the UNHCR or the Red Cross. Turkey is all set to receive € 20 billion for taking in 2.7 million Syrian refugees. How much Russia and Belarus should be receiving, for accepting 3 million and 100,000 Ukrainian refugees respectively?
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March 08, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
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Former US ambassador to Ukraine announced on his Twitter site about the upcoming appointment of the American citizen Natalia Jaresko - who was acting as a US-appointed Ukrainian minister of Finance - as the new Prime Minister of Ukraine. When that happens, Ukraine will be fully under US control, also at the official level.

https://rns.online/economy/Eks-posol-SSHa-anonsiroval-naznachenie-Yaresko-na-dolzhnost-premer-ministra-Ukraini-2016-03-08/

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 08, 2016, 05:19:22 PM
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Former US ambassador to Ukraine announced on his Twitter site about the upcoming appointment of the American citizen Natalia Jaresko - who was acting as a US-appointed Ukrainian minister of Finance - as the new Prime Minister of Ukraine. When that happens, Ukraine will be fully under US control, also at the official level.

https://rns.online/economy/Eks-posol-SSHa-anonsiroval-naznachenie-Yaresko-na-dolzhnost-premer-ministra-Ukraini-2016-03-08/
I think that Lavrov should announce an upcoming appointment of Rogozin or Zhirinovsky as U.S. Secretary of the Treasury or something like that. Cheesy
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March 08, 2016, 11:29:34 PM
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So, why haven´t they changed the name of the Verkhovna Rada, the parliament? It´s the same name that the Ukrainian Soviet Republic used, then it was the Supreme Soviet.

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So, why haven´t they changed the name of the Verkhovna Rada, the parliament? It´s the same name that the Ukrainian Soviet Republic used, then it was the Supreme Soviet.
Not only the name, but a number of MPs as well. Actually, nothing new there since the fall of Soviet Union, even the structure of municipal bodies isn't changed anyhow since 1991. Still the same hierarchical structure of councils and executive committees, which was ruled by the same personalities, but under other flag.

Because ukraine is still a soviet republic, not a parliamentary one. Before the so-called "revolution", Ukraine never had anything like the 1993 coup in RSFSR, that's why they have preserved their old system until these times. Now they're going to replace it with something more centralized and more acceptable in terms of foreign control, like Yeltsin did in the October of 1993. And, just like the dictatorial drunkard Yeltsin did, they're doing that under the guise of "democratic reforms".
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March 09, 2016, 02:08:46 AM
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Ukraines spot with north and south is leading to a cold war regardless.

And thats probably going to end up as a ww3 scenario if these fuccbois dont understand to come together and stand down.

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March 09, 2016, 02:48:59 AM
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Ukraines spot with north and south is leading to a cold war regardless.

And thats probably going to end up as a ww3 scenario if these fuccbois dont understand to come together and stand down.

It will depend on who wins elections in the US.  If Trump wins, WW3 will be postponed.  Bad for business.
But Hillary is an airhead, not very pragmatic so you never know.

re: Ukraine
It will be annexed by Russia sooner or later.  Most Russians don't even consider Ukraine as a separate country, and don't think Ukrainians are a separate nation.  They hear this message in their media, 24/7.  They will probably annex it, then eliminate the "Ukrainian terrorists" by cracking down on any dissent.  In 20 years, after annexation, there will be no Ukrainian language  Wink  And the West will say, see?, they were right all along.

After, Ukraine, they will go after ex-Soviet countries.  Russian politicians don't hide their aspirations.  Listen what Zhirinovsky  (aka Eidelstein) plans for Eastern Europe and Asia are.
He thinks Romania and Poland are artificial countries, never mind Ukraine.

Ukraine is not important, but it is a good strategic buffer zone against NATO.  That is the only reason Russia is interested in it.

The real game is in the Middle East.  That is where WW3 might start.  That region is more volatile.  Cocktail of ethnic, religious, political divisions, history of wars among various groups and completely devoid of dictators.  On top of that you have, Daesh whose goal is to start WW3.




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March 09, 2016, 03:36:58 AM
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Former US ambassador to Ukraine announced on his Twitter site about the upcoming appointment of the American citizen Natalia Jaresko - who was acting as a US-appointed Ukrainian minister of Finance - as the new Prime Minister of Ukraine. When that happens, Ukraine will be fully under US control, also at the official level.

https://rns.online/economy/Eks-posol-SSHa-anonsiroval-naznachenie-Yaresko-na-dolzhnost-premer-ministra-Ukraini-2016-03-08/
I think that Lavrov should announce an upcoming appointment of Rogozin or Zhirinovsky as U.S. Secretary of the Treasury or something like that. Cheesy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqfvjbR9B70

He is kinda a loose cannon. 

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Zhirinovsky is harmless, especially because he´ll never be anywhere near being in actual power. I think they use him mainly as a bogeyman to scare westerners. Then when the old record starts, the Russians are coming to gobble up the free world, they can complain and rightly so, they´re not interested at all in re-acquiring former Soviet territory. They have no reason for it. Except maybe the southern and south eastern part of Ukraine and for that they only have to wait. It´ll fall into their lap in due course. And the former holdings and satellite countries in eastern Europe are likely to drift back towards them. In the end it´ll come down to reliable partners and the U.S., E.U. and NATO just are very lacking in that department.

Indoctrination of Dutch schoolchildren:


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March 21, 2016, 04:39:37 PM
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Looks like Spring Fever is in full swing in Ukraine again.

In Kiev they want to prohibit to speak Russian in public places. The are calling the proposed law for "On overcoming the consequences of the Soviet occupation in the linguistic field", actively forgetting the forced Ukrainiasation of Ukraine by Kaganovich and Co in the 1920-1930s

http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/v_kieve_hotyat_zapretit_govorit_na_russkom_v_obshchestvennyh_mestah_smi

About 60% of the population of Kiev speaks Russian (maybe more). When I visited Kiev about 2 years before the coup d'etat, I hardly ever hear Ukrainian while walking the streets of Kiev...  Roll Eyes

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Bolsheviks were the first to create a Ukrainian State, with such attributes as Ukrainian language, with Ukrainian science, with Ukrainian economy. That was an ingenious move. By doing that, they disarmed everyone. Only the genius of Lenin could think of it.
In 1921, while speaking at the 10th summit of the Party in Moscow, Iosif Stalin - the People's Commisar on the affairs of nationalitis, proclaimed:
"Even if in some cities of Ukraine there are still dominating Russian elements, with the course of time those cities will inevitably become Ukranised."

Victor Shedrin:
It was Lenin's thesis: self-determination of nations up to and including separation. And if Ukrainian people decided to become a part of the Soviet Union, then the Ukrainian nation has a right to exist.

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Initially the strengthening of Ukrainian identity started not in Galicia, but in Kharkov, in Soviet Ukraine. The policy of indigenisation and suchlike. Assistance in light of Lenin's national policy. Support of the Ukrainian language.
In April 1923, during the 7th Conference of the Ukrainian Communist Party, it was announced about the start of the Ukrainisation policy.
Everything got Ukrainised: state offices, legal procedures, schools, higher education, newspapers, theatres.

The Ukrainian language was studied in schools. Ukrainisation was conducted even somewhat cockily, also including on the Russian territories, which were added to Ukraine by Lenin. By the way, why did he do it? Precisely so as to close the subject of Ukrainian separatism once and for all.
If the Ukrainian nationalists of today studied history, they would have gathered not under the portraits of Stepan Bandera, but under that of the Stalin's People's Commisar - Lasar Moiseevich Kaganovich. It was he, who with an iron fist mercilessly formed the Ukrainian nation from the Malorossian peasants. Beat a Ukrainian identity into the youth.

It was thanks to Lasar Moiseevich, that by 1929 over 80% of schools, 55% of factory-proffesional schools, and 30% of universities conducted their education in Ukrainian language.

While by 1931, 90% of newspapers and 85% of journals of the Ukrainian SSR were published in Ukrainian language.


And that on the lands, where just 15 years before, most didn't even understand what is this "Ukraine" and who are these Ukrainians.

From the book of the second President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma "Ukraine is not Russia":
"Regardless of the attitude one has to what was happening in 1920s, one must admit that if not for the the Ukrainisation of school conducted at that time, our today's independence would probably not exist. As time shows, the mass Ukrainian school, that graduated tens of millions of people, turned out to be the most important and the most indestructable element of the Ukrainian foundation in Ukraine."

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 21, 2016, 06:21:07 PM
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Zhirinovsky is harmless, especially because he´ll never be anywhere near being in actual power. I think they use him mainly as a bogeyman to scare westerners. Then when the old record starts, the Russians are coming to gobble up the free world, they can complain and rightly so, they´re not interested at all in re-acquiring former Soviet territory. They have no reason for it. Except maybe the southern and south eastern part of Ukraine and for that they only have to wait. It´ll fall into their lap in due course. And the former holdings and satellite countries in eastern Europe are likely to drift back towards them. In the end it´ll come down to reliable partners and the U.S., E.U. and NATO just are very lacking in that department.

Indoctrination of Dutch schoolchildren:



The only original act in that "Russia scare" Western propaganda from Holland, is that it targets the young uncritical minds of the children, whereas earlier similar propaganda was targeted at the adults.

Compare it to this image from around 1795:



Or to this one from WWI anno about 1914:



“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 21, 2016, 07:00:17 PM
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Yeah, yeah the Russians are always coming. I´ve heard it forever, except they didn´t seem to be coming after the Soviet Union fell, then the terrorists became the big scare for a few  years but now the Russians are back to grab the free world. And the Chinese are probably in league with them. It´s always the same old song.


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March 22, 2016, 02:00:48 PM
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Yeah, yeah the Russians are always coming. I´ve heard it forever, except they didn´t seem to be coming after the Soviet Union fell, then the terrorists became the big scare for a few  years but now the Russians are back to grab the free world. And the Chinese are probably in league with them. It´s always the same old song.

It looks like the chaos masters are still keeping terrorists as a back-up scare. Russia is far away, while those needing to keep the sheeple frightened need something closer to home.

Incidentally, there were 2 other times, when Russia stopped being the "scare #1":

First during WWII, when Hollywood propaganda machine dud a 180 degree turn. Lada wrote a good article about it last year:
Comrades Roosevelt and Gregory Peck: When Hollywood Sent Its Scripts For Stalin’s Approval
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/04/15/comrades-roosevelt-and-gregory-peck-when-hollywood-sent-its-scripts-for-stalins-approval/

And next, when the US puppet Yeltsin was at the helm in Russia. Then the western scare and demonisation was shifted to the other Slavic people - Serbs, while NATO was destroying Yugoslavia.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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