[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[TanteStefana2]

third, with commandline -wallet=XXXX you can rename your wallet.dat to something else, the .dat file extension isnt even necessary in that case.
This will make things more difficult for accidentally installed spyware..

Good tip! Today I've read that even #HackingTeam has such a spytool
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/hacking-team-broke-bitcoin-secrecy-by-targeting-crucial-wallet-file/

First response is obvious.  Add passphrase.  This has nothing to do with what I am saying.  I'm not asking to keep them safe, I am asking for my history to be safe.

Second point is also obvious.   Encrypt the file and delete it, then unencrypt it before loading up wallet.    This is also not ideal.   

So far this appears to be the best option out of the 3 you stated.   (don't use the file name WALLET.DAT).  This will help if u get infected and someone is looking for the file but if someone confiscates your machine,  finding the wallet file would be very easy.  Especially if u have it linked via a shortcut.

I appreciate your responses,  I still feel that the QT wallet should do this for you.   Once you encrypt the file,  don't allow the file to be read by the QT wallet unless key phrase is entered.    Exposing all the public keys and transaction history without any native projection is silly from my POV.

I'm really not asking much...   

That would only help if the account numbers are also hidden.  I can only see this working if you basically can't open the file, like a main lock?  A pass phrase to open the qt wallet in the first place.

Also, be aware that we now have a backup file that is created each time you open your wallet.  So, if you're like me, you either have to disable that, or constantly remove what is saved, if your paranoid about keeping a wallet on your computer.  Protection against loss is in conflict with protection against theft unfortunately.

I do see what you're saying, that's just how I deal with it.  And no matter how many "locks" you have on your wallet.dat file, it's only as safe as your weakest link.

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[TanteStefana2]

Can that same renamed wallet, say called Tantes.iou be used live?  Or is that just for saving somewhere before you rename it to wallet.dat again?

I believe the command line is added when you start the QT wallet.  So it would be used live.  

Wow, that is cool!  Can Bitcoin do this also?  Anyone else?

If you happen to know where the tutorial is, I'd sure love to do this.  (I'll search later if not, LOL - thanks!)

[TheDasher]

DASH Strategy Update

https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-strategy-update.5636/

Regarding

The current goals of development can be summed up pretty simple by saying that, in the short term, we are focusing on making Dash much more accessible to the general public. This includes an Android wallet, iPhone wallet and a very stable version of the reference client.

...given that one of the "core" markets is the privacy market,
....given that the use of DASH without IP obfuscation is not very suitable for a private currency,
.....given that the general public wants easy solutions and if you get too technical in telling them how to set up various anonymity extensions you lost the potential user and you could marginalize the use of DASH

...I think we need to implement a built-in IP obfuscation system that works out of the box from the wallet client.

Darkcoin was about privacy.  Darkcoin is dead.

DASH isn't about privacy.  DASH is about mass marketing.

That is why the phrase "masternode blinding" is conspicuously absent from Dear Leader's HYIP update.

No wonder DASH is down over 10% today.

DASH the digital trash.  When will all these noobs catch on and run for the hills?

[ArpFlush]

Can that same renamed wallet, say called Tantes.iou be used live?  Or is that just for saving somewhere before you rename it to wallet.dat again?

I believe the command line is added when you start the QT wallet.  So it would be used live.  

Wow, that is cool!  Can Bitcoin do this also?  Anyone else?

If you happen to know where the tutorial is, I'd sure love to do this.  (I'll search later if not, LOL - thanks!)

Till now I only find this thread:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248855.0, it's says you could try
walletpath=<full wallet file name>
Walletpath can be just a file name, a partial path name or a full path name. And these can have spaces (blanks) in them if the whole argument is enclosed in quotes ("path name").
I didn't try it out yet though 

[qwizzie]

Can that same renamed wallet, say called Tantes.iou be used live?  Or is that just for saving somewhere before you rename it to wallet.dat again?

I believe the command line is added when you start the QT wallet.  So it would be used live.  

Wow, that is cool!  Can Bitcoin do this also?  Anyone else?

If you happen to know where the tutorial is, I'd sure love to do this.  (I'll search later if not, LOL - thanks!)

I dont know a specific tutorial, its just one of the command line options that we took over while integrating bitcoin i think.
On a windows system you just add -wallet=yrspecificfilename in the shortcut (where you normally also add -datadir= and other command line options)
and then rename the wallet.dat to the filename you choose in the shortcut.

There is one condition : the renamed wallet.dat file needs to be in the same directory as where the wallet.dat normally would be
(it doesnt work when you place it outside that directory). And make sure you do all this before running the wallet, not during an active running wallet !

edit : and as mentioned before the .dat extension is not necessary with the renaming of the file, it does not need any extension. The name in shortcut and the actual renamed wallet.dat file just have to match name.
 
note : if they mismatch the wallet will assume a wallet.dat does not exist yet and will create a new wallet.dat, so make sure they are matched as name
you can also keep a new (empty) wallet.dat as decoy for possible spyware

[TanteStefana2]

Can that same renamed wallet, say called Tantes.iou be used live?  Or is that just for saving somewhere before you rename it to wallet.dat again?

I believe the command line is added when you start the QT wallet.  So it would be used live.  

Wow, that is cool!  Can Bitcoin do this also?  Anyone else?

If you happen to know where the tutorial is, I'd sure love to do this.  (I'll search later if not, LOL - thanks!)

Till now I only find this thread:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248855.0, it's says you could try
walletpath=<full wallet file name>
Walletpath can be just a file name, a partial path name or a full path name. And these can have spaces (blanks) in them if the whole argument is enclosed in quotes ("path name").
I didn't try it out yet though  

Thanks!  I'm gonna try it out in testnet   With this next update, I'm going to be changing everything around.  Good to find out about all this now, so I'm ready.

[tungfa]

CHATTING IN SECRET WHILE WE’RE ALL BEING WATCHED

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/14/communicating-secret-watched/

[MasterMined710]

Given the nature of DASH.   Can we please move away from a wallet.dat file that can be opened without password?    Would be nice if the file was encrypted so if it was found on your computer or someone was able to grab it they couldn't see all of your transaction history.

bitshares has a cover screen where you must put in your password before being able to see your balance and transaction history. we need something like that!

[TanteStefana2]

Given the nature of DASH.   Can we please move away from a wallet.dat file that can be opened without password?    Would be nice if the file was encrypted so if it was found on your computer or someone was able to grab it they couldn't see all of your transaction history.

bitshares has a cover screen where you must put in your password before being able to see your balance and transaction history. we need something like that!

Well I quoted you two and made the suggestion on the testing thread, but I doubt it'd be included in this release 'cause it'd delay everything.  But it's a cool idea and maybe Evan will see it

I think it would be cool if it were a num pad and if it were a different code from the encryption pass phrase so that it's not so cumbersome. Just something to keep from prying eyes.

But at some point, you do need to draw the line as all the pass words etc.. can become annoying.  Personally, if I had a smart phone, I'd have a log in for it, then have access to my wallet.  I might not even encrypt my wallet for ease of use, but I certainly wouldn't have more in it than I would have in my traditional wallet, like maybe $20, tops.  In the future, if we're all using crypto, and I'm actually paying for stuff with it, I'd just rely on my personal ability to keep my phone in my possession and if it's stolen from me, well, then it's my loss.

My real coins are off line and crazy encrypted ;P

[eduffield]

Given the nature of DASH.   Can we please move away from a wallet.dat file that can be opened without password?    Would be nice if the file was encrypted so if it was found on your computer or someone was able to grab it they couldn't see all of your transaction history.

bitshares has a cover screen where you must put in your password before being able to see your balance and transaction history. we need something like that!

Well I quoted you two and made the suggestion on the testing thread, but I doubt it'd be included in this release 'cause it'd delay everything.  But it's a cool idea and maybe Evan will see it

I've been thinking about this while I've been working on v12 today. It would be easy enough just to AES encrypt the entire wallet file, then ask for a password when you start the wallet to see anything at all. Seems simple enough to implement

[splawik21]

Evan I like that idea too...we will have an extra kicking safe wallet though...

[freedomno1]

CHATTING IN SECRET WHILE WE’RE ALL BEING WATCHED

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/14/communicating-secret-watched/

An interesting article into privacy and communication that protects against ISP's and other participants
Not a bad idea silent currency and silent communications.

[oaxaca]

CHATTING IN SECRET WHILE WE’RE ALL BEING WATCHED
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/14/communicating-secret-watched/

An interesting article into privacy and communication that protects against ISP's and other participants
Not a bad idea silent currency and silent communications.

"Tor can no longer be relied upon for anonymity"

https://media.grc.com/SN/sn-493-lq.mp3

skip the first 30 minutes or so.


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This is must-listen-to audio.

[tungfa]

Earn Passive Income by Running a Dash Masternode on Raspberry Pi

https://www.dashpay.io/news/earn-passive-income-running-dash-masternode-raspberry-pi/

Tx flare, mangled + Fuzzy for the help
 


Please share on any Tech/ Raspberry Pi/ blogs/ outlets /....
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https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/3dd59p/run_a_dash_masternode_in_a_raspberry_pi_and_get/

Please upvote and comment
(subtle please)

[ArpFlush]

Earn Passive Income by Running a Dash Masternode on Raspberry Pi

https://www.dashpay.io/news/earn-passive-income-running-dash-masternode-raspberry-pi/

Tx flare, mangled + Fuzzy for the help
 

Interesting read! I'm a fan

[tungfa]

Earn Passive Income by Running a Dash Masternode on Raspberry Pi

https://www.dashpay.io/news/earn-passive-income-running-dash-masternode-raspberry-pi/

Tx flare, mangled + Fuzzy for the help
 

Interesting read! I'm a fan

perfect !
fan of the pi ?

[toknormal]

Evan I like that idea too...we will have an extra kicking safe wallet though...

Hang on a minute. I think it's important not to drift unconsciously into uncharted waters. (Drifting "consciously" is ok   ).

IMO, Dash as a product / brand needs to be either very LIKE bitcoin or very UNLIKE it. i.e. I think it's important to have a conscious strategy of either TOTAL compatibility and consistency in almost every aspect with bitcoin, or a completely distinct identity and feel.

My own preference is for the total consistency and compatibility route. In my 25 years uninterrupted professional experience in business software development and user interface design, one of the banana skins I'm constantly aware of in this sector is that something that looks like "a great feature" to you can look a totally alien impediment to someone else who's used to some aspects of the design but not others. It can make them feel like they're in a non-authentic environment and that can offset any advantages the feature has. (There are of course constructive ways to implement alternative features which are not in people's faces - Dash has been very good at doing this IMO).

One of the huge advantages Dash has is that a Bitcoin user can make a seamless transition from the bitcoin environment and feel totally at home with Dash. However, that advantage can be lost with something as simple as a colour background difference which new users can find off putting due to simple unfamiliarity.

Having the QT wallet a'la Bitcoin with the extra mixing features is a great think IMO. It's exactly like bitcoin QT in every respect and the only thing that stands out is the distinct functionality advantage Dash has. There's no loss of authenticity by playing about with non-standard colours or other gimmickry.

I'm not trying to lay down any law here or say close any doors, just saying that this area (lets call it "tech-authenticity" for discussion's sake, which means people migrating from bitcoin feel they are in an authentic environment) is extremely important IMO and should be navigated consciously rather than unconsciously.

Take Bitshares or NxT for example. They've got the total "distinct" route. A user is in no doubt that they are in a non-bitcoin environment. The clients are nothing like QT. That's a good thing IMO. Dash needs to beware of falling in to the crevice  between the authentic vs alternative world and stake it's identity out firmly.

Sorry for the rant - just had to get that off my chest   Have a nice day !

[splawik21]

Evan I like that idea too...we will have an extra kicking safe wallet though...

Hang on a minute. I think it's important not to drift unconsciously into uncharted waters. (Drifting "consciously" is ok   ).

IMO, Dash as a product / brand needs to be either very LIKE bitcoin or very UNLIKE it. i.e. I think it's important to have a conscious strategy of either TOTAL compatibility and consistency in almost every aspect with bitcoin, or a completely distinct identity and feel.

My own preference is for the total consistency and compatibility route. I have 25 years uninterrupted full time professional experience in business software development and user interface design and one of the banana skins I'm constantly aware of in this sector is that something that looks like "a great feature" to you can look a totally alien impediment to someone else who's used to some aspects of the design but not others. It can make them feel like they're in a non-authentic environment and that can offset any advantages the feature has. (There are of course constructive ways to implement alternative features which are not in people's faces - Dash has been very good at doing this IMO).

One of the huge advantages Dash has is that a Bitcoin user can make a seamless transition from the bitcoin environment and feel totally at home with Dash. However, that advantage can be lost with something as simple as a colour background difference which new users can find off putting due to simple unfamiliarity.

Having the QT wallet a'la Bitcoin with the extra mixing features is a great think IMO. It's exactly like bitcoin QT in every respect and the only thing that stands out is the distinct functionality advantage Dash has. There's no loss of authenticity by playing about with non-standard colours or other gimmickry.

I'm not trying to lay down any law here or say close any doors, just saying that this area (lets call it "tech-authenticity" for discussion's sake, which means people migrating from bitcoin feel they are in an authentic environment) is extremely important IMO and should be navigated consciously rather than unconsciously.

Take Bitshares or NxT for example. They've got the total "distinct" route. A user is in no doubt that they are in a non-bitcoin environment. The clients are nothing like QT. That's a good thing IMO. Dash needs to beware of falling in to the crevice  between the authentic vs alternative world and stake it's identity out firmly.

Sorry for the rant - just had to get that off my chest   Have a nice day !

Tok, what we are doing here is testing the ground anyway.
We tried the DS and IX putting into the wallet and it is incorporated with success would say.
IF this new feature will ever see the day light it will have to be done in the same way which will get (even no-techy) people`s integrity and acceptance. This solution IMO should not have been mandatory and activated from the option menu to be activated or not.

[ArpFlush]

perfect !
fan of the pi ?

Yes, but no experience with that toy  Have to save some more DASH though...

[sangoku]

http://bitcoinist.net/jonathan-levine-gallery-now-accepting-dash-payments/