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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9723463 times)
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January 30, 2015, 01:38:15 PM
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There is no point in "adding" these languages unless someone sits down and translates these strings. Any volunteers? It's not much.
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January 30, 2015, 01:55:38 PM
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There is no point in "adding" these languages unless someone sits down and translates these strings. Any volunteers? It's not much.

I am working on it and try my best.
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January 30, 2015, 02:00:26 PM
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There is no point in "adding" these languages unless someone sits down and translates these strings. Any volunteers? It's not much.

I am working on it and try my best.

Thanks alot!
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January 30, 2015, 02:21:02 PM
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i think it is time to realize some profit!!!
gained 15% from the last buy...

sell near .007130sat.

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January 30, 2015, 02:26:55 PM
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The latest shift for the Darkcoin multipool paid out over 37 DRK.

Still need more hash for Scrypt &  more importantly X11 algo. If you're looking for a new home for your X11 hash, bring it over! On average, you'll make the same if not more DRK and you'll help push the price of DRK up.

We have a new multipool in development. This will in effect combine our existing two pools into one which will allow for combined mining efforts increasing the profitability as well as improved statistics and mining features. You can test the new pool out now at: http://beta.xpool.ca Keep in mind it is still beta, but testing is much appreciated!

Any problems, please PM as search is disabled here and I may miss your post.

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January 30, 2015, 02:43:18 PM
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https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/asic-coming-x-algorithms-darkcoin-watch/

Some more news!  They say taht DRK price may go down as ASICs will reduce the scarcity of a coin... lolz.... what about masternode payment...

Well, just some math.

576 blocks / day
4,65 DRK / block
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~2680 DRK / day

Currently 37.5% goes to miners, which is expected to increase, which will be 57.5% by this time next year.
If i understood correctly, ASICS are not expected to be out before that. This means only 42.5% will be distributed between miners.
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~1138 DRK / day

In a year from now DRK supply will be reduced by 7%
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~1058 DRK / day

To make it easier, let's use 1000 DRK / day for further calculations (feel free to adjust the end results by 5% due to this)


The three ASIC models in the article range from 900 to 7500 USD. Let's use the average of 2500 USD (assuming more units are sold from the cheaper version, which may not be true at all).

" For their business model to work, they reportedly have to sell 4,000 units before they produce one. "
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Let's assume that 4000 units will be sold for 2500$ each. That's 10 million USD, basically the current market cap of DRK. It's easy to see that with today's prices it would be impossible to make a positive ROI. Why?

If 4000 units will be mining, the 1000 DRK / day generated will be distributed evenly, resulting in 0.25 DRK / day for each ASIC. With today's prices, that's an astonishing 0.25 * 1.6 USD = 0.4 USD

ROI in this case would be 6250 days, assuming no more people buying ASICs (impossible), DRK supply not decreasing (impossible due to the 7% yearly decrease), and the mining share of all coins generated not decreasing (unlikely based on the current plan).

Nonetheless, let's calculate with this 0.25 DRK / day.


Should DRK to BTC ratio raise to 0.07 (3 times ATH), the result is 4 USD / day.
If at the same time BTC to USD raises tenfold as well to 2500, the yield is 40 USD / day. Which makes it roughly two months to get the initial investment back. Minus electricity.

The same 2500 USD would net ~1500 DRK currently, and within a year it would generate an additional ~180 (0.5 * 365). With the prices above one DRK would be priced at 160 USD. 1680 * 160 USD = 268800 USD

Conclusion:
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There is no financial incentive currently for miners to switch for ASIC, assuming the minimum 4000 asic units needed, and the 2500$ unit price. Should any of these change by more than 1 orders on magnitude, it might be viable with today's prices. But even then, buying the coins directly and setting up a masternode would be a WAY better investment.

I could go on for pages with the analysis, but I hope this was enough.

The only reason why ASICs would be worth buying is if someone wants to attack the network. But seeing that creating such an ASIC costs millions, this is hardly an issue currently. So people, there is basically no reason to be afraid of ASICs for now.

If anyone finds a flaw in my logic above, please elaborate.
Your well-thought out rebuttal has been given a place on Twitter...
https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/561172302671642625

Cheers, Tao

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January 30, 2015, 02:50:21 PM
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i think it is time to realize some profit!!!
gained 15% from the last buy...

sell near .007130sat.


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January 30, 2015, 02:53:21 PM
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Currently 37.5% goes to miners, which is expected to increase, which will be 57.5% by this time next year.

Really nice write up. I believe the word miners is a typo, should be Masternodes!
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January 30, 2015, 03:00:19 PM
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Currently 37.5% goes to miners, which is expected to increase, which will be 57.5% by this time next year.

Really nice write up. I believe the word miners is a typo, should be Masternodes!

Thanks, will rephrase/extend it once i get back home from work.
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January 30, 2015, 03:09:03 PM
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Currently 37.5% goes to miners, which is expected to increase, which will be 57.5% by this time next year.

Really nice write up. I believe the word miners is a typo, should be Masternodes!

 Indeed, Masternodes.

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January 30, 2015, 03:10:52 PM
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Currently 37.5% goes to miners, which is expected to increase, which will be 57.5% by this time next year.

Really nice write up. I believe the word miners is a typo, should be Masternodes!

 Indeed, Masternodes.



The calculation is fine, I just mixed up the words Smiley
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January 30, 2015, 03:27:54 PM
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Dct is going crazy on my phone
did I miss something or is props doing some changes ??
can not post in the moment
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January 30, 2015, 03:33:37 PM
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if you have an account, can you post this unswer in the comments? Or do you mind if i do it later (if i dont forget...)?

Sure I can, I just need some confirmation here that my logic is correct Cheesy

Already taken care of for you guys!



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January 30, 2015, 03:40:44 PM
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if you have an account, can you post this unswer in the comments? Or do you mind if i do it later (if i dont forget...)?

Sure I can, I just need some confirmation here that my logic is correct Cheesy

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January 30, 2015, 03:50:20 PM
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I'm gonna handle the italian translation if needed.

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January 30, 2015, 03:59:09 PM
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Im gonna do EX-Yugoslavia languages

add Ex-Yu

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January 30, 2015, 04:03:15 PM
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Dct is going crazy on my phone
did I miss something or is props doing some changes ??
can not post in the moment
props is playing yeah.
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January 30, 2015, 04:04:05 PM
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How many translations have been done so far.

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January 30, 2015, 04:04:51 PM
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There is no point in "adding" these languages unless someone sits down and translates these strings. Any volunteers? It's not much.
I registered to translate the Dutch, Dutch (Netherlands), and Dutch (Belgium) languages. Username: LucD88, add me whenever you can Vertoe! Smiley

Hi, you requested English (Netherlands) and someone lese requested English (Poland). that's totally useless. You need Dutch or Polish, not english.

Will approve if you request the correct languages.

@rux simply sign up at this site and request the language you need.
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January 30, 2015, 04:06:19 PM
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How many translations have been done so far.

english 100%
vietnamese 76%
dutch 39%
german 26%
latvian 22%
french 16%

... just click the link
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/darkcoin/
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