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January 21, 2015, 06:04:07 AM |
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pls dont rise too fast, im still waiting for my btc to buy more drkcoin
0.006844 and rising you better get a move on  my btc still on the pool, waiting for confirmation  |
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January 21, 2015, 06:27:10 AM |
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The waiting for page 4000 is killing me.
We haven't talked about changing the logo or name for a few hundred pages.
That always creates some feverish posting.....How about changing the name to otohcoin?
I'm pretty sure Otoh is launching a hostile takeover bid judging by those buy walls... Expect an imminent announcement!  I have a lot of respect to what Otoh is doing right now , but why on BTC side and not on USD side ? It would give us a great stepping away from BTC, which in the end should be the case Otoh was an early investor in BTC so has a substantial holding. It's probably just easier to buy in the DRK/BTC pair than to convert back to fiat and then buy DRK... Plus the DRK/BTC pair has a lot more liquidity than the DRK/USD pair. Otoh has the best part of $100k equivalent of BTC on the DRK bid books at Cryptsy and Bitfinex, there just isn't the liquidity on the USD markets... Plus converting it back to fiat will create a 'footprint' if you know what I mean... Walter Some reading on Otoh and his fine pedigree https://medium.com/@mhuzaifaali/second-bitcoin-miner-after-satoshi-shares-his-experience-1c9b0c107edI figured that Otoh wouldn't mind me posting this seeing as it is in the public domain anyway... That's Hal Finney, I'm a far cry from his level, he's also gone to meet the great coder in the sky I believe. Hawkward! I made the assumption that you were Hal because it is linked from Otoh.net with little explanation. Sorry to hear about Hal. I'm also very glad to hear that you don't have LGD! |
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RenegadeMan
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January 21, 2015, 06:37:59 AM |
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Great photo Tungfa  Regarding the MN payments... Enforcment OFF = irregular payments Enforcment ON = regular clock payments we need 80% updated network to swich from OFF to ON! Where is the motivation to upgrade? I upgrade right away, don't get paid. Someone on v10 stays at v10, gets paid twice. This really needs to be addressed. I also updated to .09 within hours and then overnight in between .09 and .10 being released my MN went offline somehow and I must have fallen outside of the 71 minute timer so am out of the payment cycle (which perhaps all of us are anyway given enforcement has been switched off). I know Evan and the dev team are working very hard and, like many here, I really do appreciate it but think it's imperative the payment processing and fairness of distribution amongst MNs is better managed during updates like this. That there are no hard and fast processes to take MNs out of the network that are on old versions and that many of these same MNs owners are getting paid where people who've been diligent in updating quickly aren't, isn't a workable situation (and MN owners will naturally start delaying updating if they're consistently loosing payments). It's also concerning that enforcement gets turned on and off so easily. Surely this just should be a stock standard part of the MN protocol that's not so centralised? (I know we're still in 'beta' effectively but can't we just leave enforcement on and live with whatever consequences of that as a lesser evil than manually switching it all the time? Forgive me if my comments indicate I'm not understanding this at all). |
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January 21, 2015, 06:56:54 AM |
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Great photo Tungfa Regarding the MN payments... Enforcment OFF = irregular payments Enforcment ON = regular clock payments we need 80% updated network to swich from OFF to ON! Where is the motivation to upgrade? I upgrade right away, don't get paid. Someone on v10 stays at v10, gets paid twice. Man, this is not about the motivation Now you're acting like a bad actor here. You invested your money and if you want the coin to succeed do as the devs ask you. Otherwise please sell and stop moaning about upgrades, even if they come very often. Other communities would love to have daily upgrades lol. |
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splawik21
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January 21, 2015, 07:11:55 AM |
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Great photo Tungfa Regarding the MN payments... Enforcment OFF = irregular payments Enforcment ON = regular clock payments we need 80% updated network to swich from OFF to ON! tx when is the next payment adjustment coming through ?! you have an idea about the block count ? block 209840 |
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tungfa
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January 21, 2015, 07:16:47 AM |
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tx
when is the next payment adjustment coming through ?!
you have an idea about the block count ?
block 209840 cool tx how long does that take ? a week or two ?! |
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stonehedge
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January 21, 2015, 07:17:47 AM |
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Great photo Tungfa Regarding the MN payments... Enforcment OFF = irregular payments Enforcment ON = regular clock payments we need 80% updated network to swich from OFF to ON! Where is the motivation to upgrade? I upgrade right away, don't get paid. Someone on v10 stays at v10, gets paid twice. Man, this is not about the motivation Now you're acting like a bad actor here. You invested your money and if you want the coin to succeed do as the devs ask you. Otherwise please sell and stop moaning about upgrades, even if they come very often. Other communities would love to have daily upgrades lol. I disagree. We should have a testnet and testing methodology that means that we have fewer releases. IMHO it is the regularity of releases that leads to the apathy to update. Why should the various masternode hosting services upgrade to a version until they are sure it is stable? I'm just grabbing figures from my head here but what if Flare hosts 300 masternodes and needs to manage the comms because there is also a protocol change? Would you upgrade your customers to 11.0 straight away when there is a good chance we will be on 11.10 within a week? I'd rather have one release that is stable with new features waiting to the next major release. |
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January 21, 2015, 07:18:51 AM |
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Regarding the MN payments...
Enforcment OFF = irregular payments
Enforcment ON = regular clock payments
we need 80% updated network to swich from OFF to ON!
Where is the motivation to upgrade? I upgrade right away, don't get paid. Someone on v10 stays at v10, gets paid twice. Man, this is not about the motivation Now you're acting like a bad actor here. You invested your money and if you want the coin to succeed do as the devs ask you. Otherwise please sell and stop moaning about upgrades, even if they come very often. Other communities would love to have daily upgrades lol. I disagree. We should have a testnet and testing methodology that means that we have fewer releases. IMHO it is the regularity of releases that leads to the apathy to update. Why should the various masternode hosting services upgrade to a version until they are sure it is stable? I'm just grabbing figures from my head here but what if Flare hosts 300 masternodes and needs to manage the comms because there is also a protocol change? Would you upgrade your customers to 11.0 straight away when there is a good chance we will be on 11.10 within a week? I'd rather have one release that is stable with new features waiting to the next major release. + 1 |
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tungfa
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January 21, 2015, 07:25:42 AM |
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are we on 35 % in the moment   |
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splawik21
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January 21, 2015, 07:29:05 AM |
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Yes Tungfa 35%
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tungfa
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January 21, 2015, 07:30:44 AM |
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Yes Tungfa 35%
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January 21, 2015, 07:33:24 AM |
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Great photo Tungfa Regarding the MN payments... Enforcment OFF = irregular payments Enforcment ON = regular clock payments we need 80% updated network to swich from OFF to ON! Where is the motivation to upgrade? I upgrade right away, don't get paid. Someone on v10 stays at v10, gets paid twice. Man, this is not about the motivation Now you're acting like a bad actor here. You invested your money and if you want the coin to succeed do as the devs ask you. Otherwise please sell and stop moaning about upgrades, even if they come very often. Other communities would love to have daily upgrades lol. I disagree. We should have a testnet and testing methodology that means that we have fewer releases. IMHO it is the regularity of releases that leads to the apathy to update. Why should the various masternode hosting services upgrade to a version until they are sure it is stable? I'm just grabbing figures from my head here but what if Flare hosts 300 masternodes and needs to manage the comms because there is also a protocol change? Would you upgrade your customers to 11.0 straight away when there is a good chance we will be on 11.10 within a week? I'd rather have one release that is stable with new features waiting to the next major release. This! I am not happy with the current "testing on mainnet" approach either.  We need to consolidate and go back to testnet. |
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stonehedge
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January 21, 2015, 07:48:19 AM |
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Great photo Tungfa Regarding the MN payments... Enforcment OFF = irregular payments Enforcment ON = regular clock payments we need 80% updated network to swich from OFF to ON! Where is the motivation to upgrade? I upgrade right away, don't get paid. Someone on v10 stays at v10, gets paid twice. Man, this is not about the motivation Now you're acting like a bad actor here. You invested your money and if you want the coin to succeed do as the devs ask you. Otherwise please sell and stop moaning about upgrades, even if they come very often. Other communities would love to have daily upgrades lol. I disagree. We should have a testnet and testing methodology that means that we have fewer releases. IMHO it is the regularity of releases that leads to the apathy to update. Why should the various masternode hosting services upgrade to a version until they are sure it is stable? I'm just grabbing figures from my head here but what if Flare hosts 300 masternodes and needs to manage the comms because there is also a protocol change? Would you upgrade your customers to 11.0 straight away when there is a good chance we will be on 11.10 within a week? I'd rather have one release that is stable with new features waiting to the next major release. This! I am not happy with the current "testing on mainnet" approach either. We need to consolidate and go back to testnet. Its a personal decision but I have decided to stop funding resources on testnet now. I think the devs need to have a proper think about how it can be bigger and better and not be dependent on the generosity of various individuals to provide USD resources for free. Some of the people who started paying for VPS in testnet did so to try to improve the stability of releases where they didn't have the technical ability to help...I was one of them and it isn't working. On a more positive note, I reckon once we have a version that we KNOW to be stable I'm sure we'll have enforcement back on in no time. These are good times for Darkcoin...testing and release management seems to be the blot on the copy book. |
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sangoku
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January 21, 2015, 08:16:11 AM |
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Walter_S
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January 21, 2015, 08:18:03 AM |
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How long do "darksend denominate" transactions take to confirm? Should I do anything if it has been sitting in that status for 20 min?
nevermind, went through!
Feel totally free to ignore this advice, but declaring when you are mixing compromises your own anonymity, which you may or may not care about, but since you are more identifiable it also weakens the anonymity of the people you are mixing with. Considering i am fairly sure no single person owns 1500 masternodes it is a very small point, but it looks like I am the guy who is pointing it out this time around. Not telling you what to do though, stick your dick in the mashed potatoes for all i care. The more you know! I'm just mixing for fun...so no real problem there. I'm sorry if I compromised anyone else..won't do it from now on. On another note, DirectBet wasn't good to me today Don't be sorry hombre, was just a good opportunity to remind everyone. I also am just firing up some DirectBet, I keep it small so I can keep playing! I hit 2 of the same numbers back to back in a total of 5 rolls. ( 25 25 1 87 87). I find it really hard to believe that it's random... Something like that is like 1/million Actually man that might be indicative that it is closer to true random. As I understand it, usually when you give humans the option of choosing something "random" its actually a contrived algorithm to appear random to us. True random seems fake to humans because it has occurrences of lots of repeat numbers and weird shit like that, and since we are evolved from apes our brains were totally not needed in that category they short circuit and it doesn't appear random to us. Something like that! Apparently, there's a lot of truth to this... I heard that the iPod 'shuffle' function was originally a random one, but then people complained that they'd get the same song twice and that it was much to frequent to be random! So Apple made the 'shuffle' function less random... To make it appear more random!  Walter |
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January 21, 2015, 08:23:14 AM |
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How long do "darksend denominate" transactions take to confirm? Should I do anything if it has been sitting in that status for 20 min?
nevermind, went through!
Feel totally free to ignore this advice, but declaring when you are mixing compromises your own anonymity, which you may or may not care about, but since you are more identifiable it also weakens the anonymity of the people you are mixing with. Considering i am fairly sure no single person owns 1500 masternodes it is a very small point, but it looks like I am the guy who is pointing it out this time around. Not telling you what to do though, stick your dick in the mashed potatoes for all i care. The more you know! I'm just mixing for fun...so no real problem there. I'm sorry if I compromised anyone else..won't do it from now on. On another note, DirectBet wasn't good to me today Don't be sorry hombre, was just a good opportunity to remind everyone. I also am just firing up some DirectBet, I keep it small so I can keep playing! I hit 2 of the same numbers back to back in a total of 5 rolls. ( 25 25 1 87 87). I find it really hard to believe that it's random... Something like that is like 1/million Actually man that might be indicative that it is closer to true random. As I understand it, usually when you give humans the option of choosing something "random" its actually a contrived algorithm to appear random to us. True random seems fake to humans because it has occurrences of lots of repeat numbers and weird shit like that, and since we are evolved from apes our brains were totally not needed in that category they short circuit and it doesn't appear random to us. Something like that! Apparently, there's a lot of truth to this... I heard that the iPod 'shuffle' function was originally a random one, but then people complained that they'd get the same song twice and that it was much to frequent to be random! So Apple made the 'shuffle' function less random... To make it appear more random! Walter +1 on this. I have seen similar patterns on Directbet. I also rolled on a 1 to 90 bet and got a zero. That really pissed me off Maths will always win given enough of a chance. |
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January 21, 2015, 08:26:35 AM |
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On another note, DirectBet wasn't good to me today
Don't be sorry hombre, was just a good opportunity to remind everyone. I also am just firing up some DirectBet, I keep it small so I can keep playing! I hit 2 of the same numbers back to back in a total of 5 rolls. ( 25 25 1 87 87). I find it really hard to believe that it's random... Something like that is like 1/million Actually man that might be indicative that it is closer to true random. As I understand it, usually when you give humans the option of choosing something "random" its actually a contrived algorithm to appear random to us. True random seems fake to humans because it has occurrences of lots of repeat numbers and weird shit like that, and since we are evolved from apes our brains were totally not needed in that category they short circuit and it doesn't appear random to us. Something like that! Apparently, there's a lot of truth to this... I heard that the iPod 'shuffle' function was originally a random one, but then people complained that they'd get the same song twice and that it was much to frequent to be random! So Apple made the 'shuffle' function less random... To make it appear more random! Walter There is nothing random about the house odds on a gambling site. They are dynamically adjusted. And anyone who has had a big win had better set up a new account with a new proxy, because I promise you that your future odds just got a lot worse. |
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ArpFlush
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January 21, 2015, 08:26:46 AM |
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Hello guys,
Does anyone experience frequent crashes of the Darkcoin QT (newest version for MAC OS) on a macbook air? If needed, I still have my crash report.
Thanks.
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tungfa
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January 21, 2015, 08:28:57 AM |
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Its a personal decision but I have decided to stop funding resources on testnet now. I think the devs need to have a proper think about how it can be bigger and better and not be dependent on the generosity of various individuals to provide USD resources for free. Some of the people who started paying for VPS in testnet did so to try to improve the stability of releases where they didn't have the technical ability to help...I was one of them and it isn't working.
On a more positive note, I reckon once we have a version that we KNOW to be stable I'm sure we'll have enforcement back on in no time. These are good times for Darkcoin...testing and release management seems to be the blot on the copy book.
TestNet MN's runs parallel to normal MN's (which still gets paid) on the same VPS ?! what funding recourses do you mean ? |
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January 21, 2015, 08:29:37 AM |
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Good morning Darkcoiners! That nice wake up! 0.00728 |
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