[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[alanshore]

It wasn't very discussed lately, but I have to give a terrible feedback regarding EXMO

I didn't have the chance to trade. I am still stuck with their KYC.
I work in the online industry way before KYC was even "something"; i never ever seen so many stupid rules.

I lost a month and about 20 mails, and I keep getting a sort of auto reply poorly translated with google from Russian; result, they ask for a document that is never ok or doesn't make any sense (like sending back and front in the same file without merging, without reducing resolution, without cutting borders)

If someone has a proper contact and not the one of these absolutely abysmal guys working in support is welcome
(sorry support, you deserved it)

While I don't want to bash Exmo as I do believe exchanges like theirs are crucial for growing our community, I ran into the same thing. In my case, I eventually gave up becoming verified as it was clear they were unwilling to work with me.

My application was declined due to their "home policy". In my many emails with support, they refused to explain what their "home policy" entails so I still don't know what was wrong with the application. I don't believe "home policy" has anything to do with my location as I'm in the US and was able to provide proof of address. I think it might be a blanket policy where they reserve the right to refuse verification to anyone they consider a risk.

I have had no problem becoming fully verified on 6 other exchanges so its unfortunate that Exmo is so difficult to deal with and is using a different process for verification. I sent them feedback on my experience so maybe if enough of us do the same, they will improve.

[julian071]

Oh f*k. Prince died.

RIP

Yah, he did so many drugs in the 80's, it really shortened his life.  My husband is getting depressed with all these people in our generation dying but lets face it, if we abuse our bodies with drugs, that's what happens  And our generation (the tail end of the babyboomers) really abused drugs badly.

Like my mom always says, Everything in moderation!  Please take heed my young ones

But I ditto that sentiment, Rest in peace dear brilliant man.

Drugs generally don't shorten your life. Taking bad care of yourself does. And druggies often do, but rich druggies generally take much better care of themselves then poor ones do. Having a roof over your head and people around you that still care (even if it's only because you're rich) helps a lot.

Please educate yourself before stating such blanket statements. It is the false narrative about drugs in the US that makes it so hard to get proper information through to the kids. If the government lies about say the risks of marihuana why should they believe the tings they say about meth? Truth is important!

Sorry to go offtopic, won't happen again.

[ddink7]

Oh f*k. Prince died.

RIP

Yah, he did so many drugs in the 80's, it really shortened his life.  My husband is getting depressed with all these people in our generation dying but lets face it, if we abuse our bodies with drugs, that's what happens  And our generation (the tail end of the babyboomers) really abused drugs badly.

Like my mom always says, Everything in moderation!  Please take heed my young ones

But I ditto that sentiment, Rest in peace dear brilliant man.

Drugs generally don't shorten your life. Taking bad care of yourself does. And druggies often do, but rich druggies generally take much better care of themselves then poor ones do. Having a roof over your head and people around you that still care (even if it's only because you're rich) helps a lot.

Please educate yourself before stating such blanket statements. It is the false narrative about drugs in the US that makes it so hard to get proper information through to the kids. If the government lies about say the risks of marihuana why should they believe the tings they say about meth? Truth is important!

Sorry to go offtopic, won't happen again.

That's just as much a blanket statement as the original. Some drugs may not be that bad, but some are most assuredly poisons (meth anyone?). Poisons have a strong tendency to shorten one's life expectancy.

[dEBRUYNE]

Oh f*k. Prince died.

RIP

Yah, he did so many drugs in the 80's, it really shortened his life.  My husband is getting depressed with all these people in our generation dying but lets face it, if we abuse our bodies with drugs, that's what happens  And our generation (the tail end of the babyboomers) really abused drugs badly.

Like my mom always says, Everything in moderation!  Please take heed my young ones

But I ditto that sentiment, Rest in peace dear brilliant man.

Drugs generally don't shorten your life. Taking bad care of yourself does. And druggies often do, but rich druggies generally take much better care of themselves then poor ones do. Having a roof over your head and people around you that still care (even if it's only because you're rich) helps a lot.

Please educate yourself before stating such blanket statements. It is the false narrative about drugs in the US that makes it so hard to get proper information through to the kids. If the government lies about say the risks of marihuana why should they believe the tings they say about meth? Truth is important!

Sorry to go offtopic, won't happen again.

That's just as much a blanket statement as the original. Some drugs may not be that bad, but some are most assuredly poisons (meth anyone?). Poisons have a strong tendency to shorten one's life expectancy.

Meth is used as a (legal) prescription drug for ADHD as well.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2013/005378s028lbl.pdf

[TanteStefana2]

Oh f*k. Prince died.

RIP

Yah, he did so many drugs in the 80's, it really shortened his life.  My husband is getting depressed with all these people in our generation dying but lets face it, if we abuse our bodies with drugs, that's what happens  And our generation (the tail end of the babyboomers) really abused drugs badly.

Like my mom always says, Everything in moderation!  Please take heed my young ones

But I ditto that sentiment, Rest in peace dear brilliant man.

Come on - Prince was NOT a big drug user - ugh

No, not in recent years, but when he was younger, yes, unfortunately.  And each person's body can take different amounts of abuse.  There are 104 year old people who have smoked all their lives, and others who die of smoking related illnesses at 45.  I actually didn't mean to besmirch Prince, I'm just sad.  And I hope the younger generation (which includes my kids) will take a little better care, be a little less over the top  That's all.  ::hugs::

P.S. I'm mostly talking of cocaine, which really f*cks up your nose and lungs and smoking, which hardens your arteries and can cause cancer, etc... And I'm just being a mommy again, so sorry!  Besides, this will be deleted as off topic soon anyway

[dEBRUYNE]

Oh f*k. Prince died.

RIP

Yah, he did so many drugs in the 80's, it really shortened his life.  My husband is getting depressed with all these people in our generation dying but lets face it, if we abuse our bodies with drugs, that's what happens  And our generation (the tail end of the babyboomers) really abused drugs badly.

Like my mom always says, Everything in moderation!  Please take heed my young ones

But I ditto that sentiment, Rest in peace dear brilliant man.

Come on - Prince was NOT a big drug user - ugh

No, not in recent years, but when he was younger, yes, unfortunately.  And each person's body can take different amounts of abuse.  There are 104 year old people who have smoked all their lives, and others who die of smoking related illnesses at 45.  I actually didn't mean to besmirch Prince, I'm just sad.  And I hope the younger generation (which includes my kids) will take a little better care, be a little less over the top  That's all.  ::hugs::

P.S. I'm mostly talking of cocaine, which really f*cks up your nose and lungs and smoking, which hardens your arteries and can cause cancer, etc... And I'm just being a mommy again, so sorry!  Besides, this will be deleted as off topic soon anyway

This is a pretty erroneous statement too for what it's worth.

[hashcash]

*Help Help Please*

So I had to wipe my computer(MAC) completely due to an internal issue.  I backed my wallet.dat file up to a hard drive.  Can someone please help a noob of all noobs with getting my wallet migrated onto the newly downloaded wallet.  I looked at a couple vids but I haven't found one that can help me.

Thanks

[TanteStefana2]

*Help Help Please*

So I had to wipe my computer(MAC) completely due to an internal issue.  I backed my wallet.dat file up to a hard drive.  Can someone please help a noob of all noobs with getting my wallet migrated onto the newly downloaded wallet.  I looked at a couple vids but I haven't found one that can help me.

Thanks

Sure, first, start the wallet and let it sync up. This way you won't freak out when you see a zero balance (It has to load the blockchain before it can determine your balances )

Next, exit your wallet

Then, go to this directory: ~/Library/Application Support/Dash/  (it might be dash, I don't own a mac) and replace your saved wallet.dat file with the wallet.dat files you find in there.  BTW, if you gave it a different name when you saved it (often a good idea so it isn't lost in the confusion) rename it to wallet.dat when you're ready to use it.  Always keep a copy (or two or three) of your wallet.dat file for safe keeping )

Then start the wallet back up

Forgive me, I am a bit of a mommy dearest

[hashcash]

*Help Help Please*

So I had to wipe my computer(MAC) completely due to an internal issue.  I backed my wallet.dat file up to a hard drive.  Can someone please help a noob of all noobs with getting my wallet migrated onto the newly downloaded wallet.  I looked at a couple vids but I haven't found one that can help me.

Thanks

Sure, first, start the wallet and let it sync up. This way you won't freak out when you see a zero balance (It has to load the blockchain before it can determine your balances )

Next, exit your wallet

Then, go to this directory: ~/Library/Application Support/Dash/  (it might be dash, I don't own a mac) and replace your saved wallet.dat file with the wallet.dat files you find in there.  BTW, if you gave it a different name when you saved it (often a good idea so it isn't lost in the confusion) rename it to wallet.dat when you're ready to use it.  Always keep a copy (or two or three) of your wallet.dat file for safe keeping )

Then start the wallet back up

Forgive me, I am a bit of a mommy dearest

Thanks So Much!!! And no worries I need the mommy dearest treatment  I'll try this now and let you know how it goes

[VeritasSapere]

Oh f*k. Prince died.

RIP

Yah, he did so many drugs in the 80's, it really shortened his life.  My husband is getting depressed with all these people in our generation dying but lets face it, if we abuse our bodies with drugs, that's what happens  And our generation (the tail end of the babyboomers) really abused drugs badly.

Like my mom always says, Everything in moderation!  Please take heed my young ones

But I ditto that sentiment, Rest in peace dear brilliant man.

Come on - Prince was NOT a big drug user - ugh

No, not in recent years, but when he was younger, yes, unfortunately.  And each person's body can take different amounts of abuse.  There are 104 year old people who have smoked all their lives, and others who die of smoking related illnesses at 45.  I actually didn't mean to besmirch Prince, I'm just sad.  And I hope the younger generation (which includes my kids) will take a little better care, be a little less over the top  That's all.  ::hugs::

P.S. I'm mostly talking of cocaine, which really f*cks up your nose and lungs and smoking, which hardens your arteries and can cause cancer, etc... And I'm just being a mommy again, so sorry!  Besides, this will be deleted as off topic soon anyway

This is a pretty erroneous statement too for what it's worth.

I think it is important that people are well informed so that they can make good choices for themselves. Cocaine does do damage to the nose. I do not know how it would cause cancer that might indeed be erronous. However more serously cocaine can cause heart attacks in otherwise healthy people, especially with repeated use.

I do not think drugs should be illegal, though it is better if people understand the consequences of abusing certain substances. I think a world where people choose safer and better drugs, would be a better world. After all almost everyone uses drugs, whether it is alcohol, tobacco, caffeine or even pharmaceuticals, pick your vice.

[VeritasSapere]

however it would be wrong to unnecessarily restrict the capacity of any blockchain in order to favor off chain solutions. Which is what is currently happening to Bitcoin.

I think this is the crux of the problem...Core won't let Bitcoin scale even slightly, because then LN would be a little bit less necessary. Maybe in time something better than LN would be discovered, which would bankrupt Blockstream.

From the sound of it, the whole thing is simply designed to enrich Blockstream, and miners will do nothing about it. But that's the problem I guess--all power is in the hands of the miners, which is an incredibly stupid way to build a decentralized currency.

Exactly! Some say Bitcoin is decentralized but it really isn't. There's only one possible centralization vector in 1st generation coins like Bitcoin, which deposit the decentralization hopes on POW and Moore's law and that's mining. Clearly it's a lost battle already when a handfull of people decide the majority mining software.
Talk about Bilderberg and Rotchilds... lol they're more decentralized than Bitcoin... there are competing factions within those groups  

I am not not sure how this will play out. The theory behind POW governance is good and could still work, however this is a unprecedented test of decentralized governance. Mining in Bitcoin is not necessarily as centralized as some people might think it is. Especially if we consider the pools to be like a form of representative democracy for the miners. However if it turns out that the governance mechanisms within Bitcoin are fundamentally flawed, I would consider Dash to be the most likely cryptocurrency that has solved these problems of decentralized governance, through the implementation of a self funding blockchain combined with collateralized and incentivized voting full nodes.

The problem with governance by POW is the fact that not all users of the ecosystem are miners. Exchanges, payment processors, and end-users are all important parts of the ecosystem and effectively have absolutely no say at all in how Bitcoin is run. This has led to a misalignment of incentives where miners can easily act against the best interests of other Bitcoin stakeholders. Unfortunately, Satoshi abandoned the project before these unintended consequences came to light.

I think he did see how this would progress. He even predicted much of what is happening here, including the development of ASIC's and the relative centralization of mining. The theory at least is that the miners are supposed to follow the economic majority because that is what they are incentivized to do. If this does not happen then the governance model behind Bitcoin is indeed fundamentally flawed. However if the miners do end up following the economic majority and scale on chain as was always intended then the governance model of Bitcoin has proved itself to function. This is one of the first real experiments in decentralized governance, it is unprecedented. So it is hard to know when it has actually failed, it could just require more time, for more pressure to build up, maybe even more pain.

I am confident however that if it turns out that Bitcoins governance model is fundamentally flawed then Dash will have most likely solved these specific problems with its unique governance mechanism. I just think it is still to early to tell with any degree of certainty, either way I think that Dash has a bright future, so I will remain a proud supporter of this project. As long as it stays true to origanol vision of Satoshi, which Bitcoin seems to presently be abandoning. I suppose over time the governance of Dash will rest more and more with the masternodes, if I understand the roadmap correctly. So masternode operators please keep the principles of decentralization and freedom close to your heart.

[TanteStefana2]

Oh f*k. Prince died.

RIP

Yah, he did so many drugs in the 80's, it really shortened his life.  My husband is getting depressed with all these people in our generation dying but lets face it, if we abuse our bodies with drugs, that's what happens  And our generation (the tail end of the babyboomers) really abused drugs badly.

Like my mom always says, Everything in moderation!  Please take heed my young ones

But I ditto that sentiment, Rest in peace dear brilliant man.

Come on - Prince was NOT a big drug user - ugh

No, not in recent years, but when he was younger, yes, unfortunately.  And each person's body can take different amounts of abuse.  There are 104 year old people who have smoked all their lives, and others who die of smoking related illnesses at 45.  I actually didn't mean to besmirch Prince, I'm just sad.  And I hope the younger generation (which includes my kids) will take a little better care, be a little less over the top  That's all.  ::hugs::

P.S. I'm mostly talking of cocaine, which really f*cks up your nose and lungs and smoking, which hardens your arteries and can cause cancer, etc... And I'm just being a mommy again, so sorry!  Besides, this will be deleted as off topic soon anyway

This is a pretty erroneous statement too for what it's worth.

I think it is important that people are well informed so that they can make good choices for themselves. Cocaine does do damage to the nose. I do not know how it would cause cancer that might indeed be erronous. However more serously cocaine can cause heart attacks in otherwise healthy people, especially with repeated use.

I do not think drugs should be illegal, though it is better if people understand the consequences of abusing certain substances. I think a world where people choose safer and better drugs, would be a better world. After all almost everyone uses drugs, whether it is alcohol, tobacco, caffeine or even pharmaceuticals, pick your vice.

I agree with legalizing drugs, people will do what they do.  I can't quit sugar, not funny either, I'm totally addicted to sweets and they will undoubtedly kill me.  All enforcement does is cause violence, and that money could be used to treat people instead.  I meant smoking causes cancer.  My dad died at the age of 50, from hardened arteries and strokes because he was a big time smoker (hell, he'd g0 broke with the cost of cigs today) I struggle with my own demons (sugar and weight) so I don't want to sound like I'm on my high horse.  Just wanted to pass on to you youngens the wisdom of moderation, if possible, one I'm still struggling with myself.  Sorry again for my mommy complex

[VeritasSapere]

Oh f*k. Prince died.

RIP

Yah, he did so many drugs in the 80's, it really shortened his life.  My husband is getting depressed with all these people in our generation dying but lets face it, if we abuse our bodies with drugs, that's what happens  And our generation (the tail end of the babyboomers) really abused drugs badly.

Like my mom always says, Everything in moderation!  Please take heed my young ones

But I ditto that sentiment, Rest in peace dear brilliant man.

Come on - Prince was NOT a big drug user - ugh

No, not in recent years, but when he was younger, yes, unfortunately.  And each person's body can take different amounts of abuse.  There are 104 year old people who have smoked all their lives, and others who die of smoking related illnesses at 45.  I actually didn't mean to besmirch Prince, I'm just sad.  And I hope the younger generation (which includes my kids) will take a little better care, be a little less over the top  That's all.  ::hugs::

P.S. I'm mostly talking of cocaine, which really f*cks up your nose and lungs and smoking, which hardens your arteries and can cause cancer, etc... And I'm just being a mommy again, so sorry!  Besides, this will be deleted as off topic soon anyway

This is a pretty erroneous statement too for what it's worth.

I think it is important that people are well informed so that they can make good choices for themselves. Cocaine does do damage to the nose. I do not know how it would cause cancer that might indeed be erronous. However more serously cocaine can cause heart attacks in otherwise healthy people, especially with repeated use.

I do not think drugs should be illegal, though it is better if people understand the consequences of abusing certain substances. I think a world where people choose safer and better drugs, would be a better world. After all almost everyone uses drugs, whether it is alcohol, tobacco, caffeine or even pharmaceuticals, pick your vice.

I agree with legalizing drugs, people will do what they do.  I can't quit sugar, not funny either, I'm totally addicted to sweets and they will undoubtedly kill me.  All enforcement does is cause violence, and that money could be used to treat people instead.  I meant smoking causes cancer.  My dad died at the age of 50, from hardened arteries and strokes because he was a big time smoker (hell, he'd g0 broke with the cost of cigs today) I struggle with my own demons (sugar and weight) so I don't want to sound like I'm on my high horse.  Just wanted to pass on to you youngens the wisdom of moderation, if possible, one I'm still struggling with myself.  Sorry again for my mommy complex

I do agree with you. Moderation is a good message to pass on. Stay away from the unhealthy drugs, and everything can be abused, find balance in life. This is coming from someone who smokes cannabis, I can say that because I am living in the Netherlands at the moment at least, where it has been decriminalized. To be considered a criminal for smoking cannabis is ridiculous, it is not that different to drinking alcohol. Take a lesson from history, prohibition does more harm then good.

At least with cryptocurrencies like Dash no one will be able to prohibit the movement of capital for the purpose of free trade. The effects of a population moving away from Fiat currency towards decentralized cryptocurrencies, is more then profound to say the least. Effecting many areas of life including I am sure the movement of narcotics. For someone with anarcho libertarian leanings it feels like we are doing a great amount of good in the world by facilitating freedom.

[OKtoshi]

DASH added to ROKOS website: https://twitter.com/AltcoinOfficial/status/723302623072391168

[TanteStefana2]

At least with cryptocurrencies like Dash no one will be able to prohibit the movement of capital for the purpose of free trade. The effects of a population moving away from Fiat currency towards decentralized cryptocurrencies, is more then profound to say the least. Effecting many areas of life including I am sure the movement of narcotics. For someone with anarcho libertarian leanings it feels like we are doing a great amount of good in the world by facilitating freedom.

I agree (on all counts)!  And I think a lot more of us are here for these reasons as opposed to "get rich quick" reasons.  It's going to be an exciting century, I can promise that much!

[tungfa]

DASH added to ROKOS website: https://twitter.com/AltcoinOfficial/status/723302623072391168

Awesome!

what does this actually mean ?
running a QT / Full Node over a Pie ?!
why ?  
(full geek alert ?)

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

What do you guys think about streamlining the wallet transaction terms?

Right now we have Darksend and InstantX. Neither of these terms mean anything to average people. I'm suggesting PrivaSend and InstaSend, making each transaction style easy for everyone to understand, and similar in description.

What do you think?

https://dashtalk.org/threads/darksend-rebranding-discussion.8710/

[r4vani]

What do you guys think about streamlining the wallet transaction terms?

Right now we have Darksend and InstantX. Neither of these terms mean anything to average people. I'm suggesting PrivaSend and InstaSend, making each transaction style easy for everyone to understand, and similar in description.

What do you think?

https://dashtalk.org/threads/darksend-rebranding-discussion.8710/

PSend
ISend

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Good morning all.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433982.msg14630485#msg14630485

 

[crackfoo]

Hi,

We've added DASH to the miners multipool: www.zpool.ca

Mine any of our algo's and get paid in DASH.

Cheers!