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[GhostPlayer]

I think it's obvious what type of person this is, and he supports rolling back of a block chain because he doesn't agree with who has coins. Anyone who supports something like this supports ruining crypto and making it out to a joke. 'soapmaker' is probably a federal faggot.

 This type of person is a really cool guy, with nothing but good vibes, doing good thing for ALL communities. SoapMaker is a valued member of DRK community.

 Mintpal & Vericoin devs & other exchanges agreed to roll back, to get people's money back.

 You big FUDster, you...  

 I'm barely woken up and already have my facts straight.
 You actually enjoy getting payed to troll and make a fool of yourself? Constantly? Wow, such low self esteem...

 https://support.mintpal.com/index.php?module=announce&sec=view&id=17

[GhostPlayer]

Maybe someone at the exchange made a bad trade or didn't keep reserves high enough to meet withdrawals, so they made up a story so they could rollback the blockchain...

I think that could be scrutinised/audited and would be the ultimate gox 2.0 and MP's total demise... dunno...

[thelonecrouton]

 Morning folk. Just woke up and got creeped by the MP news.
 What really bothers me there, is that it was not user account, but MP themselves... so why on earth only Vericoin were stolen?
 If it was a service exploit, they would have gone straight to BTC, LTC and heck, even DRK.... why Vericoin?  

Mintpal are bent. Always have been, they're just smart and subtle about it. They run bot armies price-fixing and shorting the coins that every other fool in cryptoland leaves lying there like it's a fucking bank. This time they screwed up somehow, their gamble didn't pay off, and the vericoin devs are in cahoots with them.

Seriously, forking back a blockchain to cover an exchange's stupidity is a horrible precedent. An honest exchange would take the loss and learn from it. Blockchains are not supposed to be fucking time machines to magically repair the screwups of big players.

[GhostPlayer]

 Morning folk. Just woke up and got creeped by the MP news.
 What really bothers me there, is that it was not user account, but MP themselves... so why on earth only Vericoin were stolen?
 If it was a service exploit, they would have gone straight to BTC, LTC and heck, even DRK.... why Vericoin?  

Mintpal are bent. Always have been, they're just smart and subtle about it. They run bot armies price-fixing and shorting the coins that every other fool in cryptoland leaves lying there like it's a fucking bank. This time they screwed up somehow, their gamble didn't pay off, and the vericoin devs are in cahoots with them.

Seriously, forking back a blockchain to cover an exchange's stupidity is a horrible precedent. An honest exchange would take the loss and learn from it. Blockchains are not supposed to be fucking time machines to magically repair the screwups of big players.

Very good point indeed. I was just on troll-patrol back there, but yeah, I get you.

Regarding Mintpal... I thought they were totally legit as an exchange 

[Xdragon]

 the verge published this article about dark wallet. http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/12/5893705/two-men-and-their-quest-to-make-bitcoin-truly-untraceable  . People need to know about DarkCoin, and why it is better than this dark wallet centralised nonsense. Let's post some comments on verge 

[Scriptiee]

 Morning folk. Just woke up and got creeped by the MP news.
 What really bothers me there, is that it was not user account, but MP themselves... so why on earth only Vericoin were stolen?
 If it was a service exploit, they would have gone straight to BTC, LTC and heck, even DRK.... why Vericoin?  

Mintpal are bent. Always have been, they're just smart and subtle about it. They run bot armies price-fixing and shorting the coins that every other fool in cryptoland leaves lying there like it's a fucking bank. This time they screwed up somehow, their gamble didn't pay off, and the vericoin devs are in cahoots with them.

Seriously, forking back a blockchain to cover an exchange's stupidity is a horrible precedent. An honest exchange would take the loss and learn from it. Blockchains are not supposed to be fucking time machines to magically repair the screwups of big players.

Very good point indeed. I was just on troll-patrol back there, but yeah, I get you.

Regarding Mintpal... I thought they were totally legit as an exchange 

They are only around 5-6 months old, cant consider them reputable/legit yet. So far they are less shady then BTC-e but not something I would trust with huge amounts of money.

[toknormal]

Jeez. I can't believe they forked VRC to take out that hack.

That must be a first for cryptos. How can they possibly think that's going to do anything other than kill the coin ? It's now become a CDT - Centralised Developer Toy.

I don't think those folks have thought through the implications of this properly. I've got some Veri on Mintpal but it doesn't seem to be tradeable right now.

[Terzo]

What is happening with Darkcoin ? What are the latest news ? Why the price is dropping again ? What is the deal with mintpal.com and some stolen money and how that is affecting darkcoin?

[fernando]

Jeez. I can't believe they forked VRC to take out that hack.

That must be a first for cryptos. How can they possibly think that's going to do anything other than kill the coin ? It's now become a CDT - Centralised Developer Toy.

I don't think those folks have thought through the implications of this properly. I've got some Veri on Mintpal but it doesn't seem to be tradeable right now.

I've read somewhere that 30% of the coin was stolen. If that number is true, which I'm not sure yet, then doing nothing could also mean death. How can 30% of a coin end up in an exchange is difficult to understand... and it is a PoS coin!!!

[piyany]

Jeez. I can't believe they forked VRC to take out that hack.

That must be a first for cryptos. How can they possibly think that's going to do anything other than kill the coin ? It's now become a CDT - Centralised Developer Toy.

I don't think those folks have thought through the implications of this properly. I've got some Veri on Mintpal but it doesn't seem to be tradeable right now.

I've read somewhere that 30% of the coin was stolen. If that number is true, which I'm not sure yet, then doing nothing could also mean death. How can 30% of a coin end up in an exchange is difficult to understand... and it is a PoS coin!!!

The right question is how can 30% of coin end up in hot wallet of the exchange...

[toknormal]

I've read somewhere that 30% of the coin was stolen. If that number is true, which I'm not sure yet, then doing nothing could also mean death

Thats why I think it was just a last resort damage limitation excersice by the devs.

All the same, pretty drastic stuff. I mean if you do that you potentially destroy the coin's candidacy for widespread adoption for ever. Given that background there's not much reason for anyone to hold and so you could just up with 50% of the coin supply being dumped instead of 30%.

I don't see the reasoning behind this. There must be more to it that's not in the public domain.

[fernando]

I've read somewhere that 30% of the coin was stolen. If that number is true, which I'm not sure yet, then doing nothing could also mean death

Thats why I think it was just a last resort damage limitation excersice by the devs.

All the same, pretty drastic stuff. I mean if you do that you potentially destroy the coin's candidacy for widespread adoption for ever. Given that background there's not much reason for anyone to hold and so you could just up with 50% of the coin supply being dumped instead of 30%.

I don't see the reasoning behind this. There must be more to it that's not in the public domain.

I guess/hope we'll know more as it develops.

[vertoe]

Jeez. I can't believe they forked VRC to take out that hack.

That must be a first for cryptos. How can they possibly think that's going to do anything other than kill the coin ? It's now become a CDT - Centralised Developer Toy.

I don't think those folks have thought through the implications of this properly. I've got some Veri on Mintpal but it doesn't seem to be tradeable right now.

I've read somewhere that 30% of the coin was stolen. If that number is true, which I'm not sure yet, then doing nothing could also mean death. How can 30% of a coin end up in an exchange is difficult to understand... and it is a PoS coin!!!

The right question is how can 30% of coin end up in hot wallet of the exchange...

Mintpal was staking them

[vertoe]

What is happening with Darkcoin ? What are the latest news ? Why the price is dropping again ? What is the deal with mintpal.com and some stolen money and how that is affecting darkcoin?

Darkcoin is not affected, nothing to worry about.

I dont see the price dropping. It's between 90 and 120 for more than 2 weeks now. Waiting for the storm.

[fernando]

Jeez. I can't believe they forked VRC to take out that hack.

That must be a first for cryptos. How can they possibly think that's going to do anything other than kill the coin ? It's now become a CDT - Centralised Developer Toy.

I don't think those folks have thought through the implications of this properly. I've got some Veri on Mintpal but it doesn't seem to be tradeable right now.

I've read somewhere that 30% of the coin was stolen. If that number is true, which I'm not sure yet, then doing nothing could also mean death. How can 30% of a coin end up in an exchange is difficult to understand... and it is a PoS coin!!!

The right question is how can 30% of coin end up in hot wallet of the exchange...

Mintpal was staking them

They say they weren't, but at this point some skepticism is quite healthy:
https://support.mintpal.com/index.php?module=announce&sec=view&id=18

[blajde]

Will be cancelling my DRK websites due to the community involvement in trashing another coin. I don't play negative in crypto.

I bring cryptos up. So as for the 30+ darkcoin websites and the faucet we had been setting up. They are all going to be on hold for a while. I hope that the community decides to support other cryptos in the future, rather than tear them down. Its a team game here, we all in this together, gl in your future endeavors.

please spread your shit elsewhere

I didn't like that guy from the beginning - just something about him..... oh well

you never responded to my previous post =(

I actually had a huge reply written and then I went to ctrl-v a number from the calculator and deleted the whole post somehow.
ctrl-z would not bring it back - not sure what happen.
So a gave up and took a break.

Basically it gave an example........

So if you send me 408DRK
400DRK for the MN
and 8DRK used for setup

Then there would be 20DRK for setup total

If I only need to use 10DRK let's say, for setup and 10DRK remain.
I pull 0.2DRK off (1%) and then send everybody back 0.98DRK/100DRK
So you would get 3.92DRK back out of the original 8DRK

It's pretty straight forward....

Yeah that sounds good too.

Sign me up for 400

[toknormal]

What is happening with Darkcoin ? What are the latest news ? Why the price is dropping again ? What is the deal with mintpal.com and some stolen money and how that is affecting darkcoin?

Darkcoin is the only x-Coin that's reasonably stable as far as I can see.

XC - tanked
CLOAK - tanked
VRC - hacked followed by nuclear detonation by the devs
XMR - tanked
XDN - lovely, virgin territory. Pump coming soon

No FUD - I'm holding all of these except for XC which I dumped. I never expected them to get very far but I thought they'd get a bit further than their last highs.

As it is they're doing what all clones do after their initial pump by the looks of it.

[Bobsurplus]

What is happening with Darkcoin ? What are the latest news ? Why the price is dropping again ? What is the deal with mintpal.com and some stolen money and how that is affecting darkcoin?

Darkcoin is the only x-Coin that's reasonably stable as far as I can see.

XC - tanked
CLOAK - tanked
VRC - hacked followed by nuclear detonation by the devs
XMR - tanked
XDN - lovely, virgin territory. Pump coming soon

No FUD - I'm holding all of these except for XC which I dumped. I never expected them to get very far but I thought they'd get a bit further than their last highs.

As it is they're doing what all clones do after their initial pump by the looks of it.

Cloak tanked?? When was that. It was at 15K sat less then 4 weeks ago, today its at 77K sat! that's not tanking in my eyes!

[oneway]

You will find below a fork of the p2pool code with the 20% tax code disabled.


git clone git://github.com/repojohnray/p2pool-altcoins-drk-taxfree.git



Here is a public p2pool node using this fork code; You can join.

http://next.awiki.org:8175

A very good idea. This coin goes in a very bad direction since the 'masternode' concept. And this 20% tax is very bad for the coin value. Giving free coins, like the classical premined concept, always results in a scam

OK- this p2pool source code fix  - the tax issue - Great work...

The dev does the worst job we can imagine with their 'masternode' implementation - They have just find a way to kill a crypto that just begin...with an absurd and inefficient work.
Don't forget that without miners a crypto has no value.

[chaeplin]

!!! shit stuff

Enjoy your xxxx.  

Whatever you call.

RC4 is coming