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[TaoOfSaatoshi]

This is where we have a chance to outperform Bitcoin, create a hip, cool factor to carrying Darkcoin...once we do that then the merchants will come naturally!

Read what you have said that, watch Bitcoinrush videos...that doesnt work does it. We need to find somebody else.

Agreed. The official video should be simple, clear, informative exciting.

A um..quirky.. interview with this fellow shouldn't be "official". But the official video needs broader support, clean execution.

hip, cool factor? One person's cool is another person's fuckoff.

simple, simple, simple.

Tao you do great work but I also do not see this as the right path for an offical video. If it's a bit of fun for you go for it.
But the official video needs to be something quite different.

I repeat: THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL VIDEO!!!

Do you guys understand? I can't put it any simpler...

[f2000]

I repeat: THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL VIDEO!!!

Do you guys understand? I can't put it any simpler...

We understand, just having a discussion. I would like to know if everybody else thinks BitcoinRush is a good fit for Darkcoin?

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Where are you getting these ideas from? If your referring to the joke between myself and Ignition75, it was started in the Darkcoin the Movie thread where he would be played by the Rock and I would be played by Johnny Depp as Rango.

I never once said I was going to be in this video, as of now it's only the host and Evan. Please don't make baseless comments. Be constructive. This is not "THE" promo video for Darkcoin, it's just an episode of Bitcoin Rush that we are going to take advantage of to educate people about DRK in a funny way.

It's going to happen, if you don't like it, don't participate in the planning!

I hope you do decide to contribute, however, you are also a Darkcoiner...

Yeah, I thought you were hinting at other people being in the video...my apologies i read between the lines on that one.

Why was Bitcoinrush chosen to represent Dark?

I will always contribute when I feel I can add something. Glad we can disagree gratefully and not make anything personal.

Yes, you got it man! The only thing I need to stress is that this is not the best we're going to do. When InstantX comes out, there will be a full-court press of PR videos, press releases, and contests all done PROFESSIONALLY. Among them will be our official promo video. So just enjoy this for what it is, and we'll move on with the awesomeness that is DRK...

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

I repeat: THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL VIDEO!!!

Do you guys understand? I can't put it any simpler...

We understand, just having a discussion. I would like to know if everybody else thinks BitcoinRush is a good fit for Darkcoin?

Myself and the team feel he is a good fit. Of course, you can't please everyone, but he is gentle, and funny (opinion) and would be good to talk about a coin with a DARK reputation and stereotype.

[salmion]

I repeat: THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL VIDEO!!!

Do you guys understand? I can't put it any simpler...

We understand, just having a discussion. I would like to know if everybody else thinks BitcoinRush is a good fit for Darkcoin?

Myself and the team feel he is a good fit. Of course, you can't please everyone, but he is gentle, and funny (opinion) and would be good to talk about a coin with a DARK reputation and stereotype.

I couldn't watch his sample show.
And I'm clearly not the only one.

[Sapereaude]

These trendy video animations with professional narration are able to explain complex ideas quickly, efficiently and more importantly in a fun way that is accessible to most people. This is what people want, not some nerds sitting around for 15mins going into far too much detail. Interviews will come in time, plus they will be free (im sure the world will be interested in how Evan has fixed a few of the mighty Bitcoin's shortfalls).

Video one: short and sweet (Key points only)

Kurzgesagt
https://www.youtube.com/user/Kurzgesagt
Example of work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3QpgXBtDeo#t=49  
Contact:
http://kurzgesagt.org/contact/

Epipheo
https://www.youtube.com/user/epipheo/videos
Example of work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G3RoBHMu-o&list=UUoPlipOfn_kc1y1q7sXN5yQ
Contact:
http://www.epipheo.com/


Video two: more indepth/detailed

Duncan Elms
https://www.youtube.com/user/bulkas/about
Example of work: Bitcoin explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEbCbp1vc9Y&list=UU-axbX3HKSoBo-ZNJJeS_Vg
Contact via Google+ (he has worked for the following company, Hungry Beast)


Hungry Beast
https://www.youtube.com/user/abchungrybeast/videos
Example of work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0pi4J8auQ&list=UUi-rTYd0VRQW0-_DGPiuDpg
Unable to find contact details after a quick search, perhaps Duncan Elms could help us there



What other coins have produced, so this is what we are up against (this is what we should be aiming for).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ultLPNj-a8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4g1XFU8Gto


After all hard work Evan’s done, it would be a shame to ruin it with some halfassed attempted at marketing. People will be watching, if this video is cheesy/cringy, the whole crypto world will be pointing and laughing. We should be showing people that Darkcoin isn't just for nerds, doing this interview with Bitcoinrush only cements that fact. Was Bitconinrush chosen to represent Darkcoin because somebody met him?

Edit; These are just examples to get my idea across, just so we are on the same page...is it just me that thinks this?

We may have a convention in Vegas coming up next year, if Tungfa get's her way...

Man all those videos were great, we should have a bunchof them done and use them for drinking games at the convention : p

[Kai Proctor]

An animated video (less than 2 min) with a good voice-over like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo and job done !

[salmion]

An animated video (less than 2 min) with a good voice-over like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo and job done !

+100000000

*edit I would love to see some interviews with evan too - but maybe he could get instanTX out first

[Jestah]

This is where we have a chance to outperform Bitcoin, create a hip, cool factor to carrying Darkcoin...once we do that then the merchants will come naturally!

Read what you have said that, watch Bitcoinrush videos...that doesnt work does it. We need to find somebody else.

Agreed. The official video should be simple, clear, informative exciting.

A um..quirky.. interview with this fellow shouldn't be "official". But the official video needs broader support, clean execution.

hip, cool factor? One person's cool is another person's fuckoff.

simple, simple, simple.

Tao you do great work but I also do not see this as the right path for an offical video. If it's a bit of fun for you go for it.
But the official video needs to be something quite different.

Just to add my 2 duffs.......  

We are all in Crypto to make money.  Say whatever you want, but that is a core fact.

Peoples' first impressions are important.  Personally, I would hit the back button FAST if I saw a video about a coin I was researching that looked like a feeble attempt at being funny produced by a bunch of fanboys.   I have thousands of dollars invested in this project, I would like to see something serious and professional.

I repeat: THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL VIDEO!!!

Do you guys understand? I can't put it any simpler...

I hope you realize that nobody outside of this circle will know that.

I understand the desire to just make it light and funny, but that shouldn't be how people first see DRK.  I feel the same about the twitter account spam.  It should be serious, should not sound like a car salesman, and it should be infrequent.  Seeing 30 silly tweets a day makes me unsubscribe from anyone.

Not trying to ruffle anyone's feathers but this seemed like a good time to share my long standing opinions.  This isn't Dogecoin ffs.

[thelonecrouton]

This isn't Dogecoin ffs.

+1

Some 'zany' dude bouncing around with an epilepsy-inducing background is not the best thought out plan. If he wants to do that himself, fine, but paying him for it is nuts.

[alex-ru]

An animated video (less than 2 min) with a good voice-over like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo and job done !

+100000000

*edit I would love to see some interviews with evan too - but maybe he could get instanTX out first

+1  
IMO We need just 3 easy PR steps to make "80% effect":

1) "An animated video (less than 2 min) with a good voice-over like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo and job done !" targeted for experienced Bitcoin users.
*Tell people that Darkcoin EXISTS.
2) Any video interview with any "real darkcoin person" - we have to utilize the fact Darkcoin isn't "one more altcoin's scam". Darkcoin has real developers (and even Foundation?) - why this great advantage wasn't used yet...
*This will add a lot of TRUST to this project.
3) Infographics (advantages Darkcoin vs "Bitcoin mixers").
* This will show Darkcoin is ALREADY APPLICABLE.

[crowning]

We are all in Crypto to make money.  Say whatever you want, but that is a core fact.

I'm here for the girls.

[rentahash]

We are all in Crypto to make money.  Say whatever you want, but that is a core fact.

I'm here for the girls.

lol dark ones

[tungfa]

Little Fundraiser for PR Writers Bounties ....>

Hey community,
as you know a couple of community guys and girls are writing Press Releases, helping Evan with his Releases (writing), help promote DRK by submitting written Stories to publications and much more.....

They are very important and needed,
so to keep the crew happy and throw a little incentive behind this I am doing a fundraiser for a small bounty pot !
Am planing to pay/giveaway 5 DRK (across the board) for each PR Release, Story, Whitepaper ,......>

I am looking for 100 DRK
(so we haver that pot filled up and do NOT have to do this after each writing job)

Donation Address:
XjxqubJYbVfDFyLYv76WVLwNh3nPo5Ndj6

To start this party off, i send 25 DRK to show my appreciation to the Writing Crew.

Anybody else,
please feel free to donate !
Tx

 

[RenegadeMan]

Agreed. The official video should be simple, clear, informative exciting.

A um..quirky.. interview with this fellow shouldn't be "official". But the official video needs broader support, clean execution.

hip, cool factor? One person's cool is another person's fuckoff.

simple, simple, simple.

Tao you do great work but I also do not see this as the right path for an offical video. If it's a bit of fun for you go for it.
But the official video needs to be something quite different.

We really need more people's opinions here, thanks for posting salmion.

Have been following this interaction diligently. Here's my take:

f2000 I completely agree with just about everything you've said and I really appreciate you collating all those examples. I would just caution though (and given the quality of your writing style; this won't be news to you) the need to remember just how limited is a back and forth written interaction in a forum like this on getting to the core of an issue and really understanding where everyone's coming from.

For me I am desperately hoping that professional marketing will happen and happen very soon. There's no doubt Darkcoin has enormous potential; I wouldn't have suffered the losses I have investing my time and money in this and if I didn't believe in its long term potential to be something of tremendous value and utility. What concerns me greatly (and has from the beginning) is the lack of focus and clarity as to just who we are targeting for Darkcoin and what will be the strategy to develop the core messaging to ensure it stays on track to an agreed positioning statement. We have vast number of views on here as to what DRK is going to provide and who the key users/customers will be. The constant reference to getting dark markets to take up adoption and people talking the attractiveness of DRK for gambling, porn, weapons, drugs is very very concerning to me. There's a high level of nerd/geek culture on here and unfortunately nerd/geeks are hopelessly inadequate at understanding how easily branding can go astray and (without careful management) can take a brand down a track that's eventually irrecoverable. We have a very real risk of DRK being subject to an unfortunate set of PR mis-understandings/misapprehensions and being immediately tarnished as a subversive/"dangerous"/criminal tool that no mainstream business would ever touch. I fear that this outcome is highly likely and will relegate DRK to a level of poor credibility and poor acceptability that will make Silk Road look like something mainstream businesses might consider supporting.

Tao I think f2000's point is entirely valid (not withstanding the difficulties of this written communication process we're all involved in on this forum) in that he's saying it's incredibly important to get a video made that's positioned properly, is not "geeky" and is easily understandable by mainstream Internet users who may not know anything about even Bitcoin, let alone the world of Alts. That doesn't mean we have to dumb it down; far from it. The Hungry Beast videos he posted are testament to how you can take relatively complex concepts and package them for wide audience acceptability and understandability.

f2000 I think Tao's just trying to point out that using the Bitcoinrush guy is just one avenue and will likely result in some good reach into realms we're not currently reaching. I take your concerns to heart though. 30 seconds in watching his video and it's far from what I'm hoping to see in terms of quality and "unkookiness" (he's funny and all but not what you'd want representing such an important project as the main outbound marketing stream....but Tao I've comprehended what you're saying about him too).

Lots to consider here. I'd really like to hear Evans thoughts on marketing and how we're going to get this thing onto a straight and narrow messaging platform before DRK ends up down some alternative track we'd not really hoped to see it travel. If we want widespread adoption we need to plan how we'll appeal to enough sections of the community that they'll appreciate what DRK is and have trust in using it. That won't happen though an ad-hoc uncoordinated fashion with mixed messaging going here, there and everywhere.

[tungfa]

Anonymous Crypto-currency Arms Race Part 3 .....>

http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/10/28/anonymous-crypto-currency-arms-race-part-3/

[georgem]

Just to add my 2 duffs.......  

We are all in Crypto to make money.  Say whatever you want, but that is a core fact.

Peoples' first impressions are important.  Personally, I would hit the back button FAST if I saw a video about a coin I was researching that looked like a feeble attempt at being funny produced by a bunch of fanboys.   I have thousands of dollars invested in this project, I would like to see something serious and professional.

I repeat: THIS IS NOT THE OFFICIAL VIDEO!!!

Do you guys understand? I can't put it any simpler...

I hope you realize that nobody outside of this circle will know that.

I understand the desire to just make it light and funny, but that shouldn't be how people first see DRK.  I feel the same about the twitter account spam.  It should be serious, should not sound like a car salesman, and it should be infrequent.  Seeing 30 silly tweets a day makes me unsubscribe from anyone.

Not trying to ruffle anyone's feathers but this seemed like a good time to share my long standing opinions.  This isn't Dogecoin ffs.

I kindly disagree.

Something tells me that darkcoin price will explode once we see lots and lots of fans producing their own versions of promo videos, funny videos, tutorials, reviews, etc...

More decentralization is necessary. More independent agents acting on their own, kinda like masternodes in a way.

If we wait for "darkcoin officials" to approve every video then we will go nowhere.

Ofcourse darkcoin has to have an official face, and this will be represented over at darkcoin.io and the respective social channels attached to it.

If I stumble on a fan video of a new coin , first thing I do is go to the official site and ann thread to check the coin, I don't let the fan video influence me any further. Why should I?
It's an appetizer, nothing more. First the fun meme, but then the cold facts!

So dont discard the work coming from fans. They invest their own time and money, and this is more valuable than anything.  

[tungfa]

i think we are all overthinking this !!

Sure it is not the best show, the guy is a bit crazy, .....
BUT
it is still a good PR opportunity !
It will NOT be Max Keiser or The Wall Street Journal, there is no doubt !

But lets make the best of this as it will ONLY result in good PR and we for sure spread the DRK word to new people !!!!
So lets stop the bitching and moaning and lets do this !

my opinion:
we should use this opportunity to make a professional animated video !
For the Show, but even more important for us and DRK ! We can use that after all over
and will get that "out" of the show !
How hard can that be ?! (well i can not do it obviously)

lets get some bounty behind this and get that sorted !
and while we do that, lets make the best out of it and do a video we can use for a Million other things,
then this show is 100% so worth it !
 

[tungfa]

Little Fundraiser for PR Writers Bounties ....>

Hey community,
as you know a couple of community guys and girls are writing Press Releases, helping Evan with his Releases (writing), help promote DRK by submitting written Stories to publications and much more.....

They are very important and needed,
so to keep the crew happy and throw a little incentive behind this I am doing a fundraiser for a small bounty pot !
Am planing to pay/giveaway 5 DRK (across the board) for each PR Release, Story, Whitepaper ,......>

I am looking for 100 DRK
(so we haver that pot filled up and do NOT have to do this after each writing job)

Donation Address:
XjxqubJYbVfDFyLYv76WVLwNh3nPo5Ndj6

To start this party off, i send 25 DRK to show my appreciation to the Writing Crew.

Anybody else,
please feel free to donate !
Tx

 

Up to 30 ... tx .... keep it coming ....>>

[Ignition75]

Little Fundraiser for PR Writers Bounties ....>

Hey community,
as you know a couple of community guys and girls are writing Press Releases, helping Evan with his Releases (writing), help promote DRK by submitting written Stories to publications and much more.....

They are very important and needed,
so to keep the crew happy and throw a little incentive behind this I am doing a fundraiser for a small bounty pot !
Am planing to pay/giveaway 5 DRK (across the board) for each PR Release, Story, Whitepaper ,......>

I am looking for 100 DRK
(so we haver that pot filled up and do NOT have to do this after each writing job)

Donation Address:
XjxqubJYbVfDFyLYv76WVLwNh3nPo5Ndj6

To start this party off, i send 25 DRK to show my appreciation to the Writing Crew.

Anybody else,
please feel free to donate !
Tx

 

Up to 30 ... tx .... keep it coming ....>>

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