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Author Topic: [ANN][HUC] Huntercoin - Worlds First Decentralized Game/World on the Blockchain  (Read 857307 times)
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April 05, 2016, 11:15:27 PM
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due to a bug in the backend, users that create new accounts will be asked to pay the fee, don't, just PM me
I'll check occasionally new activations to manually set the free access, as soon as I'll find the time I'll update the backend so that this opeartion will be automatic

backend updated, problem solved, free access for everyone now works, enjoy (latest client version now is mandatory)

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April 06, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
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Going to try over the next few days to get a few people in a few different areas to try the game, using both clients, and will give some brutal feedback.

"brutal feedback" appreciated lol

if you have problems just tell, i saw you launched the client time ago but probably you were still downloading blockchain?

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April 07, 2016, 05:19:58 AM
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Going to try over the next few days to get a few people in a few different areas to try the game, using both clients, and will give some brutal feedback.

"brutal feedback" appreciated lol

if you have problems just tell, i saw you launched the client time ago but probably you were still downloading blockchain?

Starting a little slower than expected, but here is my first feedback.

The game, as it is, is fine for some people no doubt.
But there should be some "version" that lets anybody understand and play the game quickly.

So far it is very difficult and complicated for me just to learn the basic game [i.e., follow the tutorial, I haven't actually played yet. See below.]. I "get" that some people will like a particular video game and others not. But the issue here is whether Huntercoin is going to be a very niche "game" targeting a very narrow slice of the public, or whether it is going to be a human mineable coin.

If the goal is to really lead in the coming field of "human mineable cryptocurrencies" then there must be some version that is easily understandable and playable. [Like "Pacman", a game they use to have in bars in the U.S. in the 70s or 80s. It took 5 seconds to learn how to play and most people enjoyed playing it. Could Huntercoin not have a "simple version" like Pacman, that let anybody play and "mine"?]

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I'll try it some more in a few hours or so.

... I think I created a hunter, but in the "My Troops" window it has said "Pending Player. waiting to be created" for about an hour. Seems to be  stuck on block 1170564  Undecided  Will check in a few hours.

... Logged back in after a few hours and "Pending player" is gone. I guess the troop got killed while I was away from the computer? lol

... Sent more HUC to the game wallet to try again later today with the other client. So far I have spent 205 HUC and gotten nothing but annoyance. I have been telling a bunch of people for weeks that I was going to set up a computer and show them how to mine a cryptocurrency with Huntercoin lol  Undecided

I appreciate the lot of help from Mithril and Snailbrain and others who are very generous with their time.

Planning to try some more in a few hours.

So far this coin is an epic disappointment.


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April 07, 2016, 05:36:14 AM
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any screen shots of the game update?
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April 07, 2016, 10:03:16 PM
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... I think I created a hunter, but in the "My Troops" window it has said "Pending Player. waiting to be created" for about an hour. Seems to be  stuck on block 1170564  Undecided  Will check in a few hours.

... Logged back in after a few hours and "Pending player" is gone. I guess the troop got killed while I was away from the computer? lol

... Sent more HUC to the game wallet to try again later today with the other client. So far I have spent 205 HUC and gotten nothing but annoyance. I have been telling a bunch of people for weeks that I was going to set up a computer and show them how to mine a cryptocurrency with Huntercoin lol  Undecided

I appreciate the lot of help from Mithril and Snailbrain and others who are very generous with their time.

My client has a real time chat, use it and if I'm available i'll help real time there (CTRL+1 to open the chat)
maybe you didn't had a full synched blockchain, I'm not responsible about how daemon (huntercoind.exe / qt) works, if it let you send transaction if the blockchain isn't full synchronized
Anyway next time try to ask help on chat and I'll help you if timezone help us

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April 07, 2016, 11:44:34 PM
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here it's 1:45 AM, I think i'll be around for another 30/45 minutes if you want to try now, or .... in 8 hours ~

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April 08, 2016, 03:58:24 PM
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name_register is not yet available ....................... Huh
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April 08, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
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name_register is not yet available ....................... Huh

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my client uses that RPC command using huntercoind.exe RPC interface, are you sure you are running the correct version?

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April 08, 2016, 05:27:24 PM
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name_register is not yet available ....................... Huh

This probably means that you are not yet synced up to the fork point - the error should go away.

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April 10, 2016, 09:35:35 PM
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the "human mining" aspect
Somehow this word has a negative sound to it. Pro gamer could be your favorite occupation, human miner/human guinea pig/human whatever probably not.
The description should confer the meaning that the game is the mining process as opposed to distribution of premined coins,
but humans play games, computers mine coins.

There's a mindset attached to the human mining notion, basically that the disutility of the miner's "work" gives value to the coins.
This is of course not true, and I guess everyone will deny thinking like this. Perhaps it's a semi unconscious thing.


"human mining" rather than simply "low risk gambling"

But the risk is the only thing that can prevent everyone from spawning masses of dumb bots.
Playing Huntercoin is not gambling because of the (really huge in % terms) positive expectancy.

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April 10, 2016, 10:40:42 PM
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yes i think there is a big difference between voting as a share holder in a company and voting in a decentralized app to make it more decentralized and fair.


Voting would be just expressing an opinion, without formal power of enforcement, but still very useful.

I'm playing with an implementation: if you could link
- a number that is the vote
- opening and closing blockheight for the voting
- optionally an hunter
- optionally a comment
- proof of ownership (of coins and 1 address)
then everyone can call for votes by putting the topic in the comment, using a new closing blockheight, and casting the first vote.
This is rather straightforward and could be ready to try on mainnet in a few days.

The spam limiting factor is mostly the total number of available coins, so a call for votes can be free of charge, just asking (and competing) for attention.

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name_register is not yet available ....................... Huh

This probably means that you are not yet synced up to the fork point - the error should go away.

downloaded the chain manually, but now the problem i have is that i dont have enough funds Sad
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April 11, 2016, 04:45:59 PM
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here it's 1:45 AM, I think i'll be around for another 30/45 minutes if you want to try now, or .... in 8 hours ~

u say what?
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...

downloaded the chain manually, but now the problem i have is that i dont have enough funds Sad

Post your playing wallet address.

Short term solution.

 

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downloaded the chain manually, but now the problem i have is that i dont have enough funds Sad

Post your playing wallet address.

Short term solution.

 

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Sent 212. Should be only 200 to start plus fractions for small things like moving your player. If it is not enough to start, or you get wiped out, say so. Please post your experiences and opinions about the game, if you don't mind, once you have played.

thank you so so much, is it too expensive to move the player? wiped out? you mean i can lose my character? how?
what about the character colors? any advantages on each? a guide if it is possible or a wiki?

i found the forum and i read about, but what happens with the coins if i get wiped out?
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thank you so so much, is it too expensive to move the player? wiped out? you mean i can lose my character? how?
what about the character colors? any advantages on each? a guide if it is possible or a wiki?

Most people will not lose but that is one issue we were discussing earlier on this thread.

There are a lot of simple instructions at the website.

Go to http://huntercoin.org/information/how-to-mine/human/ and the Mithril client starts with a tutorial that most people will understand and follow easily (I have a poor ability to understand that kind of thing but it is good for most people). I think it costs 0.1 to move a player. Not sure


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takes ages to move the character
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yep each 1 move is a transaction, and it each transaction is ~ 1 min.. (aka block solved)
and 99.999% of all mine /work done is done via F2pool <one single mining pool...

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(...) If it is not enough to start, or you get wiped out, say so. Please post your experiences and opinions about the game, if you don't mind, once you have played.

sapi killed my character, tried to disconnect but he was too close to me and also i guess the character delays on disappearing after i disconnect, so it gave him/her even more time to destroy me

anyway, the possibility to get your character killed, and the slow movement discourages me (if it was 30sec instead of 1 min no problem, i know it could not be instant movement, this is mining, mining takes time). about killing, imagine it like hardware mining, someone randomly comes where you are, pulls out a baseball bat and destroy your mining equipment, that's it, your out, you must buy a new one again to get what? a 10th of what it costed when randomly again someone comes and destroy it? what's the point? they are giving power to some one to hold even more coins just because he got more time to make an army and new human miners wont have a chance
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April 13, 2016, 12:42:40 AM
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"human mining" rather than simply "low risk gambling"
But the risk is the only thing that can prevent everyone from spawning masses of dumb bots.
Playing Huntercoin is not gambling because of the (really huge in % terms) positive expectancy.

Unfortunately, the future of gambling is probably a few logical steps ahead of you. Considering the history of Huntercoin it would be a shame if this trend continues with HUC leading. Somebody who (properly) counts cards at a blackjack table will have a huge positive expectancy. Should you say they are withdrawing? Mining? Words should reflect, not create.

takes ages to move the character

The person I got to try the game complained about the same thing. Also I asked him if he thought it would be more "fun" to "mine" using a simple game like pacman and he said hands down pacman wins.

yep each 1 move is a transaction, and it each transaction is ~ 1 min.. (aka block solved)
and 99.999% of all mine /work done is done via F2pool <one single mining pool...

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99.+% of all coins mined? Or only of coins mined but not by players? I cannot imagine that either of those is correct but if it is even close it brings me to an unpleasant thought.

A lot of times people working on a project get a cloistered mentality and start to incorporate a sort of home for themselves, and their buddies, that excludes others.

There isn't really anything wrong with that, as long as it is upfront.

If a currency is intended to be the financial playground for "a select few" then that fact must be made plain to everybody. Once it is clear then it is not a problem. There will be a lot of currencies aimed at tiny groups, and there will be some limited "exchange value" in those coins. I had not considered that a possibility with Huntercoin until recently, but it does look like there is an "exclusive" mindset and perhaps development is (probably unconsciously) guided towards making sure that exclusivity remains in favor of a certain few.

I'll repeat that I am a strong supporter of Huntercoin still, only for its potential. I hope that there is a discussion about the possibilities of authentic human mining in a coin, and that developers start making use of what coins offer to experiment with human mining.

Let me be clear, miners "the players" get 90% of all HUC coins, what i was referring to is the hardware (sha256/scrypt) the backbone, is done by one mining pool, F2Pool, they are the horsepower that moves the coins, and each move i was referring to the count it shows when you move say from 1 side of the map to the other ~ 3 + hours to do that, every single time the toon moves its 1 transaction done by f2pool.

If that 1 pool was to go down or quit supporting huc...

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