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Author Topic: [CLOSED] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers  (Read 902902 times)
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August 28, 2014, 02:53:58 PM
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Eluthria, I just noticed something strange on the pool website dashboard.

Block 317891 was submitted for conf. at 4:58 am CST.
Shift 19478  was completed at 5:00 am CST.
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Block 317891 did not update as confirmed until work had begun on block 317894.

When I checked the PPLNS stats page I could see that block 317891 was credited in the shift(19478) that had mined it.
Was/is this a glitch or did we win an orphan race to keep the block credit?

Time Completed is based off the timestamp of the block, which is not always the actual time it was found due to nTime rolling and the fact that work is only pushed out every 30 seconds (and older work is still valid unless a new block is solved).  Blocks are also only checked for once per minute, so a block found at 4:59:05 AM CST (but with a timestamp of 4:58:37) would get caught in a shift that ended at 5:00 AM CST instead since it would not be seen until after the shift close.

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August 28, 2014, 06:34:15 PM
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If I had read something like that in December when I started, it would have never made a lick a sense to me, but I get it now! Smiley
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August 30, 2014, 02:25:42 PM
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A question about the new tube miner from friedcat.  Nice guy that he is the supplied ethernet controller only allows for 1 pool 'ghash'  

There are workarounds using a BFGminer proxy to let me mine it here. I wonder if you can find a way to get the tube miner to work here using the supplied ethernet controller.

I  complained to friedcat here;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735728.msg8596415#msg8596415


the general tube threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735982.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735728.0

BTW : I like this pool and continue to point some s-3s at this pool.

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August 30, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
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I have it working with BTCG as well as the T1 which uses the same controller.
You have to use the lb BTCG server.

Eleuthria is it ok to share that server address? Rockminer had me use it for the T1 review.



A question about the new tube miner from friedcat.  Nice guy that he is the supplied ethernet controller only allows for 1 pool 'ghash'  

There are workarounds using a BFGminer proxy to let me mine it here. I wonder if you can find a way to get the tube miner to work here using the supplied ethernet controller.

I  complained to friedcat here;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735728.msg8596415#msg8596415


the general tube threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735982.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735728.0

BTW : I like this pool and continue to point some s-3s at this pool.

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August 31, 2014, 01:23:06 AM
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I have it working with BTCG as well as the T1 which uses the same controller.
You have to use the lb BTCG server.

Eleuthria is it ok to share that server address? Rockminer had me use it for the T1 review.


In other words, their built in stratum controller doesn't work with BTC Guild because they didn't implement client.reconnect, joy.  It works just fine if you direct connect to the redirect URL?

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August 31, 2014, 04:52:24 AM
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Yes it works fine with the direct connect one. The one with USA and lb in it.
This is the same controller for both the Friedcat tube and the Rockminer T1.
Rockminer has told me they are working on updates to it but I have heard nothing on Friedcats end. I keep checking the threads.
The controller is odd to say the least. Powerful in some aspects and the lacking I others like failover pools and such.



I have it working with BTCG as well as the T1 which uses the same controller.
You have to use the lb BTCG server.

Eleuthria is it ok to share that server address? Rockminer had me use it for the T1 review.


In other words, their built in stratum controller doesn't work with BTC Guild because they didn't implement client.reconnect, joy.  It works just fine if you direct connect to the redirect URL?

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August 31, 2014, 07:03:18 AM
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I have it working with BTCG as well as the T1 which uses the same controller.
You have to use the lb BTCG server.

Eleuthria is it ok to share that server address? Rockminer had me use it for the T1 review.


In other words, their built in stratum controller doesn't work with BTC Guild because they didn't implement client.reconnect, joy.  It works just fine if you direct connect to the redirect URL?
Their stratum implementation is broken in many ways I'm afraid...

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August 31, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
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It definitely is.
Both the FriedCat Tube and Rockminer T1 that use the BE200 controller cannot connect to only the one address.
Strangely enough I can connect to NastyPool with them.
It is very confusing that is for sure.


I have it working with BTCG as well as the T1 which uses the same controller.
You have to use the lb BTCG server.

Eleuthria is it ok to share that server address? Rockminer had me use it for the T1 review.


In other words, their built in stratum controller doesn't work with BTC Guild because they didn't implement client.reconnect, joy.  It works just fine if you direct connect to the redirect URL?
Their stratum implementation is broken in many ways I'm afraid...

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September 02, 2014, 02:36:05 PM
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I wrote a piece at http://bitcoinsinireland.com/79-hours-mining-with-12ghs-on-btcguild/ today with my stats mining on 12ghs for anyone interested in seeing my earnings, which they can scale for their own hashing rate. I also cross posted it on http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/new/. Getting a steady stream of readers, so hopefully some new miners too for the Guild!

Nice to see blocks are coming more regularly now too after the last few days

Block   Contribution   Reward   Time Completed
318761   Waiting for a confirmation   2014-09-02 03:28 PM
318758   0.00009%   0.00002262   2014-09-02 02:56 PM
318741   0.00009%   0.00002296   2014-09-02 01:04 PM
318735   0.00010%   0.00002319   2014-09-02 12:14 PM
318693   0.00009%   0.00002278   2014-09-02 05:55 AM
318682   0.00009%   0.00002269   2014-09-02 03:42 AM
318681   0.00009%   0.00002266   2014-09-02 03:33 AM
318679   0.00009%   0.00002263   2014-09-02 03:17 AM
318677   0.00009%   0.00002276   2014-09-02 03:02 AM

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September 02, 2014, 04:37:26 PM
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How much do you earn / block here for 1600 GH/s ? Just to know.

Thx!
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September 02, 2014, 06:42:29 PM
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Shift lengths have been increased slighlty since the pool has gained back some speed (they've gone from 10b -> 11b a few days ago, and now 11b -> 12b shares).  As usual, this makes no change to what you earn, it simply makes it take a little longer for a share to go from open shifts to a closed shift (so longer ramp-up time, and a longer wind-down time when you stop mining).  They should still mature in a little under 12 hours.


How much do you earn / block here for 1600 GH/s ? Just to know.

Thx!

Earnings per block is a completely pointless number since the larger the pool, the smaller your earnings per block but the more frequent they come in.  Just use any BTC calculator for 1600 GH/s for an idea of what your earnings would be at neutral luck, and subtract 2% for the pool fee.  Don't look at your 24h earnings until you have mined for > 36 hours, since your first 12 hours are paid less due to ramp-up time (and when you stop you get paid for 12 hours even though you stopped, so it ends up offsetting the ramp-up).

RIP BTC Guild, April 2011 - June 2015
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September 03, 2014, 11:23:19 AM
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I just caught my miner as it lost connection, when it resumed BFGMiner said Pool 0 is issuing work for an old block 318732 we were awarded block 318883 at 430 am CST. Blockchain says we should be working on 318896. And seems to have caught up at 6:18:30 am CST with new block 318897. That was really weird. Huh AND we were awarded block 318896..strange, strange, strange. but I'll take it!
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September 03, 2014, 03:16:44 PM
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I just caught my miner as it lost connection, when it resumed BFGMiner said Pool 0 is issuing work for an old block 318732 we were awarded block 318883 at 430 am CST. Blockchain says we should be working on 318896. And seems to have caught up at 6:18:30 am CST with new block 318897. That was really weird. Huh AND we were awarded block 318896..strange, strange, strange. but I'll take it!

The filtering server was having some bitcoind restarts the other day.  When the filtering server's bitcoind goes offline, it loads older cached work.  Since the filtering server is only there until you submit a single share, it's not exactly a big issue if it is giving out old work, the whole point is just to make sure you're a legitimate miner before sending you to the real servers.

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September 03, 2014, 03:23:06 PM
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It looked like I was stuck working on the old block until the new block was detected a couple of minutes later.
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September 03, 2014, 03:28:58 PM
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Would the issue have caused workers to not show the appropriate hash etc ?

I had a thin yesterday where the miner displayed worker speeds fine and that I was connected to the pool but the guild shows me at about a third of the hash of the worker and even seemed to be tallying less shares.

To be decided...
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September 03, 2014, 03:35:33 PM
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Would the issue have caused workers to not show the appropriate hash etc ?

I had a thin yesterday where the miner displayed worker speeds fine and that I was connected to the pool but the guild shows me at about a third of the hash of the worker and even seemed to be tallying less shares.

No.  The filtering server *does not record shares*.  You only connect to it for a single submission, after which point you're redirected to real servers.  This old cached work on the filtering server had no impact on stats.


It looked like I was stuck working on the old block until the new block was detected a couple of minutes later.

Only the filtering server had the issue.  All the *real* servers were on the current block the entire time.  You "saw a new block" once you submitted a valid share and were redirected to the proper servers.

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September 03, 2014, 06:35:29 PM
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three in a row, how i've missed you Smiley

Block   Contribution   Reward   Time Completed
318939   Waiting for a confirmation   2014-09-03 07:18 PM
318938   0.00009%   0.00002254   2014-09-03 07:14 PM
318937   0.00009%   0.00002264   2014-09-03 07:10 PM
318932   0.00009%   0.00002264   2014-09-03 06:32 PM

@osaku, dividing mine by 12 and then multiplying by your rate, ~0.003016, maybe a little less

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September 03, 2014, 10:50:27 PM
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Been using this pool as a backup pool for a while now, and while it works great and all, I find it very annoying that when I hit the minimum withdrawal mark, it withdraws as a whole number and cuts off any decimal places back. 

For example, if I mine .013 BTC, but my withdrawal threshhold is set at .01, it will only withdraw the .01.

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September 03, 2014, 10:54:55 PM
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Been using this pool as a backup pool for a while now, and while it works great and all, I find it very annoying that when I hit the minimum withdrawal mark, it withdraws as a whole number and cuts off any decimal places back. 

For example, if I mine .013 BTC, but my withdrawal threshhold is set at .01, it will only withdraw the .01.

Heh, that's one of the things I really like, nice round numbers in my wallet Smiley

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September 03, 2014, 11:53:13 PM
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Been using this pool as a backup pool for a while now, and while it works great and all, I find it very annoying that when I hit the minimum withdrawal mark, it withdraws as a whole number and cuts off any decimal places back.  

For example, if I mine .013 BTC, but my withdrawal threshhold is set at .01, it will only withdraw the .01.

Then you should turn off auto withdrawals and just manually withdrawal instead.  Auto withdrawals assume the miner is staying on the pool (thus the need for automated payments), in which case fractional BTC is of no concern, they'll just get their next payout that much faster.

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