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May 08, 2014, 06:38:20 PM
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current oddity shows pool speed at -100,000 TH

is something under maint or rebooted?

I reset the stats on the accounts that were frozen, because they've fixed the issue (confirmed solved blocks on Eligius with the same wallet as their Guild account).  I want to make sure I can accurately gauge their shares vs block solves.  Their accounts are disabled from receiving any payouts at the moment.

Kinda screwed up the pool speed calculation, trying to tweak that.

Before anybody says it:  No, they are not mining on the pool right now.  We're just stuck on a block at the moment.  ~5x current diff in shares submitted since the last solve.

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May 08, 2014, 06:39:13 PM
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current oddity shows pool speed at -100,000 TH

is something under maint or rebooted?




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May 08, 2014, 06:41:15 PM
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I think we need an extreme change with the bitcoins. We are absolutely near the point where electricity is more expensive then the worth of an mined bitcoin.
Mining reward/cost will always trend towards 1.  

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What we need is an sicgnificant increase of the bitcoin price. It has to go up for more then 100%, if not we all have to switch off all our miners.

I disagree.  What we need is an end to the influx of new miners thinking that this is a game to get rich while doing very little.  There is absolutely no reason people should be making off with thousands of dollars a month for turning on some electronics hardware and doing little, if anything, else.

Only those with old hardware in high electrical rate areas will have to shut down.  Those who have cheap efficient HW in lower cost areas will be able to continue mining.
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May 08, 2014, 08:28:48 PM
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The word on the street is that public pools are under block withholding attacks.  Malice it is.
Is this the same street that says Elvis is still alive?  It's still all rumors at this point.

If you have a miner that CAN'T solve a block, then you need to point it at a pool to at least get some return, even though you're bringing everyone's earnings down including your own.

If you have a miner that CAN solve a block I still can't see a scenario where it makes any kind of economic sense to stage an attack of this kind.

If you have a miner that COULD solve a block but ISN'T and you don't know why, then you'd put it into a pool.  If and when you figure it out and fix it you'll pull it from the pool.

My pet theory based on my Magic 8 Ball is that it's the last of the three.  Maybe.  But I might change my mind tomorrow.


If you look at Eligius 7.7 PH about what we have and they are on a 9 HR block as well.  15PH can’t get a solution in 9 hrs is the street I am on.




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May 08, 2014, 09:04:01 PM
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If you look at Eligius 7.7 PH about what we have and they are on a 9 HR block as well.  15PH can’t get a solution in 9 hrs is the street I am on.




Edit... F Elvis he does not pay my bills.  

it's not true, their stat page is momentarily screwed (look at the big red alert near the top)

the last block the mined:

https://blockchain.info/it/block-index/402256/0000000000000000761cdffad5de63add6c0e1bfda668b3ae168d5bca1671f11

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May 08, 2014, 09:06:21 PM
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If you look at Eligius 7.7 PH about what we have and they are on a 9 HR block as well.  15PH can’t get a solution in 9 hrs is the street I am on.




Edit... F Elvis he does not pay my bills.  

it's not true, their stat page is momentarily screwed (look at the big red alert near the top)

the last block the mined:

https://blockchain.info/it/block-index/402256/0000000000000000761cdffad5de63add6c0e1bfda668b3ae168d5bca1671f11

Then I stand corrected
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May 08, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
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Have we ever had a closed shift with zero blocks?  Are we about to?
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May 08, 2014, 09:15:10 PM
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Height   Age   Transactions   Total Sent   Relayed By   Size (kB)
299768   2 minutes   382   1,978.28 BTC   BTC Guild   207.37


Looks like it's finally over

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May 08, 2014, 09:22:48 PM
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Height   Age   Transactions   Total Sent   Relayed By   Size (kB)
299768   2 minutes   382   1,978.28 BTC   BTC Guild   207.37


Looks like it's finally over

Ya with the block before that being 8.5hrs ago ;-/

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May 08, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
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Have we ever had a closed shift with zero blocks?  Are we about to?

We didn't luckily.  The N value is currently at just under 9x diff.  I can only recall 2 blocks in the last 3 years that were worse than that on BTC Guild, 1 block on Slush, and 1 block on Deepbit.

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May 08, 2014, 10:03:09 PM
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Have we ever had a closed shift with zero blocks?  Are we about to?

We didn't luckily.  The N value is currently at just under 9x diff.  I can only recall 2 blocks in the last 3 years that were worse than that on BTC Guild, 1 block on Slush, and 1 block on Deepbit.
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May 09, 2014, 11:41:46 AM
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Looks like we just made up for that lousy block.
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May 09, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
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Is there any evidence that some previous unknown pool-hopping scheme has been devised? The fluctuations in reported hashing power in the public pools seems pretty extreme. I don't have good data but anecdotally for BTCGuild it does seem to move with luck.
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May 09, 2014, 02:48:19 PM
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I think we need an extreme change with the bitcoins. We are absolutely near the point where electricity is more expensive then the worth of an mined bitcoin.
Mining reward/cost will always trend towards 1.  

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What we need is an sicgnificant increase of the bitcoin price. It has to go up for more then 100%, if not we all have to switch off all our miners.

I disagree.  What we need is an end to the influx of new miners thinking that this is a game to get rich while doing very little.  There is absolutely no reason people should be making off with thousands of dollars a month for turning on some electronics hardware and doing little, if anything, else.

Only those with old hardware in high electrical rate areas will have to shut down.  Those who have cheap efficient HW in lower cost areas will be able to continue mining.


Bitcoins: A game or not a game, switching off old unefficient hardware. Is this an solution, I think no. On august will be all now availiable miners on the market unefficient. We create bitcoins at minimum for that, that we enable to share our input of electicity (converted into bitcoins) to buy things for the real life or something to have fun.

Paying for fun it´s ok, but when I loose so much money inhalf a very short time, without the chance to buy somthing with 0,0001 bitcoins, then
is something wrong. What we need is an fixed minimum price for the Bitcoins. Also an timeframe where we can dispose this old hardware.

Ok OK OK, there are so many other sha256 coins to create, but all depends on the bitcoins.
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May 09, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
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What we need is an fixed minimum price for the Bitcoins.

This type of regulation is one of the things Bitcoin in supposed to free us from.  Bitcoin needs to succeed or fail on its own merits, this type of socialistic meddling is bad for everyone.

Isn't this BTC Guilds thread?

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May 09, 2014, 04:12:57 PM
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May 10, 2014, 03:38:51 AM
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Could we have a lower auto withdrawl amount? Even if it can only trigger once every 24 hours?

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May 10, 2014, 04:02:44 AM
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Could we have a lower auto withdrawl amount? Even if it can only trigger once every 24 hours?
Why, that would just cost you more in fees.

I wouldnt mind seeing an option to bypass auto withdrawls though and just have one payment triggered per day at a user specified time that cashes out your full balance minus change / last 6 digits.

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May 10, 2014, 05:52:06 PM
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I'm pretty new to this and just had my first experience with a significant outage impacting my miners.

I've got two Antminer S1s chugging away non-stop (usually) on Slush's Pool. I don't hop, etc. Best case for me is for the machines to just do their thing.

Last night though, my internet connection crapped-out and I was out for 14 hours. Now that I'm back up, my statistics show four blocks that my miners worked on, that now show "none" for Your Shares and Your Reward. There are confirmations being churned-out, but nothing for me.

Is this part of the pool hopping policy?

Being someone that doesn't hop (I dedicate miners to Slush and BTC Guild), seems like BS that I'm being dinged like this.

Thanks, Dan
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May 10, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
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I'm pretty new to this and just had my first experience with a significant outage impacting my miners.

I've got two Antminer S1s chugging away non-stop (usually) on Slush's Pool. I don't hop, etc. Best case for me is for the machines to just do their thing.

Last night though, my internet connection crapped-out and I was out for 14 hours. Now that I'm back up, my statistics show four blocks that my miners worked on, that now show "none" for Your Shares and Your Reward. There are confirmations being churned-out, but nothing for me.

Is this part of the pool hopping policy?

Being someone that doesn't hop (I dedicate miners to Slush and BTC Guild), seems like BS that I'm being dinged like this.

Thanks, Dan

PPLNS is a time-delayed method.  Whenever a block is solved, the payment is applied to the 10 open shifts.  A shift takes ~1 hour to complete, so this means each block is split based on the mining activity of users over the last 10 hours.  So while your machines were offline, you were continuing to get paid for most of that time (though it shrank as new shifts completed where you had no shares).

When you first started up again, you wouldn't have any shares in the open shifts.  It takes a while to rebuild shares in all shifts.  This is the "charge up" period, and when you stop mining it's the "wind down" period.  They're symmetrical, meaning you aren't making more or less depending on frequency of mining.  Each share's payout is completely independent of future and past mining activity.  This is explained in the Support/How Am I Rewarded section.

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