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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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March 30, 2022, 03:58:40 AM
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They are usually playing a hardcore defensive system where the whole defense and midfield try to do whatever it takes to not let the other team have easy positions. This could result with the players resulting to hard fouls just to make sure that the other team knows they can't have an easy chance.

This is not only good in a tactic way, but it is good in psychological way where they would be able to put the other team in a fear where the other team would feel like they can't just go out and playmake, they have to be quick to get rid of the ball if they do not want to get kicked. This could result with a good result for ATM, or it could result with a red card and switch the balance of the game.
Committing a hard violation will result in ATM players getting a red card from the referee, this is what ATM players must avoid so as not to harm them because of a lack of player balance. The ATM style of play will make the opposing team dare not keep the ball at their feet for too long, this condition is what Diego Siemone wants to damage the psychology and plans of the opposing team.
City who still want to win the UCL must be able to get past the obstacles from ATMs, Pep Guardiola is well aware that he will have difficulty with ATMs, but Man City must find a way to score goals against ATM.

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March 30, 2022, 04:01:38 AM
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What is your reason to doubt Real Madrid mentality? If we are talking about the mentality of Real Madrid, they must be superior to Chelsea. You can count yourself how many times Real Madrid can come back from behind in UCL matches, even some of them in the final UCL. They have enough experience to deal with the pressure in UCL competition, they surely have a winning mentality. In reality, they prove it by leading the number of UCL titles till today. So, no reason to doubt with Real Madrid mentality. What we need to suspect how is the physical health of each player ahead of the match. The team that can release all their key players and has no problem with injury, should be the favorite to win.

Talking about mentality actually Real Madrid is better than Chelsea because last round when Real Madrid defeated PSG we know about how mentality of Real Madrid player there. Chelsea still not get heavy against team on Champion league except with Juventus on group stage, but on 16 round is getting easy team for defeating as Lille not competitive on champion league after bad performance on Ligue 1 or domestic league. I think have good chance and looks Real Madrid as potential team will trough to semifinal and become moment to see Real Madrid back to play on final champion league in this season.
Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

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March 30, 2022, 04:28:01 AM
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Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

Real Madrid's victory over PSG is indeed proof that Real Madrid is one of the teams that deserve to be a candidate to win the Champions League. They lost in the first leg but managed to turn things around in the second leg, so it can be said that Real Madrid really has a good mentality and of course, the effort that goes with it.

Meanwhile, Chelsea, even though they are having internal problems but it can't be denied that they are in good shape now and Thomas Tuchel has a good record against Real Madrid. It will be difficult to guess who will be the winner because both teams are great, but I think the team that can be consistent and makes fewer mistakes, then they will be the winner.

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March 30, 2022, 04:41:44 AM
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Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

Real Madrid's victory over PSG is indeed proof that Real Madrid is one of the teams that deserve to be a candidate to win the Champions League. They lost in the first leg but managed to turn things around in the second leg, so it can be said that Real Madrid really has a good mentality and of course, the effort that goes with it.

Meanwhile, Chelsea, even though they are having internal problems but it can't be denied that they are in good shape now and Thomas Tuchel has a good record against Real Madrid. It will be difficult to guess who will be the winner because both teams are great, but I think the team that can be consistent and makes fewer mistakes, then they will be the winner.
This is a big team that both have quality players and a high mentality, Real Madrid has won the most UCL titles while Chelsea were UCL champions last season. if you look at the game of the two teams, it is very difficult to predict who will win, this is a match that will be difficult for both teams. out of several UCL games I think Real Madrid's match against Chelsea is the most interesting.
I personally predict Real Madrid will be able to win this match after seeing the excellent game they showed against PSG in Leg2.

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March 30, 2022, 04:46:27 AM
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Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.

Real Madrid's victory over PSG is indeed proof that Real Madrid is one of the teams that deserve to be a candidate to win the Champions League. They lost in the first leg but managed to turn things around in the second leg, so it can be said that Real Madrid really has a good mentality and of course, the effort that goes with it.

Meanwhile, Chelsea, even though they are having internal problems but it can't be denied that they are in good shape now and Thomas Tuchel has a good record against Real Madrid. It will be difficult to guess who will be the winner because both teams are great, but I think the team that can be consistent and makes fewer mistakes, then they will be the winner.
After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.

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March 30, 2022, 05:41:30 AM
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Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.
Real Madrid have always been good at the champion league but with their present performance at the premiere league will real Madrid be able to beat Chelsea despite Chelsea's internal crisis, I don't think Chelsea will let that effect their championship performance?
The next round may be though for both clubs because of the other clubs like Manchester City or Liverpool who top the table in the just concluded premiere league round, let keep our fingers cross to see the outcome of top 5 clubs that will be playing in the championship this time.
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Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.
Real Madrid have always been good at the champion league but with their present performance at the premiere league will real Madrid be able to beat Chelsea despite Chelsea's internal crisis, I don't think Chelsea will let that effect their championship performance?
The next round may be though for both clubs because of the other clubs like Manchester City or Liverpool who top the table in the just concluded premiere league round, let keep our fingers cross to see the outcome of top 5 clubs that will be playing in the championship this time.
Indeed this match will be a slightly unpredictable match. Real Madrid and also Chelsea are strong teams competing in the Champions League right now. But I can say a little bit that the internal problems that Chelsea are currently facing may have a little effect on the team. Although I again hope that what I think is wrong and not actually happened.
In the end I was with Real Madrid to win the game.

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March 30, 2022, 07:59:47 AM
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After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.
Sometimes it is difficult to repeat a nice history, Chelsea had a nice history last season at UCL but maybe like last year Real Madrid were eliminated because Chelsea precisely this season instead Madrid eliminated Chelsea, although this is not an easy match to predict and in this first leg match Chelsea are more favourite because they play at home, Chelsea need to win with a big score because if only with a score of 1-0 or 2-0 Madrid is very likely to chase it in the second leg.

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March 30, 2022, 09:00:16 AM
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What is your reason to doubt Real Madrid mentality? If we are talking about the mentality of Real Madrid, they must be superior to Chelsea. You can count yourself how many times Real Madrid can come back from behind in UCL matches, even some of them in the final UCL. They have enough experience to deal with the pressure in UCL competition, they surely have a winning mentality. In reality, they prove it by leading the number of UCL titles till today. So, no reason to doubt with Real Madrid mentality. What we need to suspect how is the physical health of each player ahead of the match. The team that can release all their key players and has no problem with injury, should be the favorite to win.

Talking about mentality actually Real Madrid is better than Chelsea because last round when Real Madrid defeated PSG we know about how mentality of Real Madrid player there. Chelsea still not get heavy against team on Champion league except with Juventus on group stage, but on 16 round is getting easy team for defeating as Lille not competitive on champion league after bad performance on Ligue 1 or domestic league. I think have good chance and looks Real Madrid as potential team will trough to semifinal and become moment to see Real Madrid back to play on final champion league in this season.
We don't need to doubt the mentality, because they a strong history in the champions League and gave won it more than any other team in Europe, there match against Paris Saint Germain showed role club history play in uefa champions League, I think there survival in the champions League semi final will be the availability/fitness of key players like Karim benzema,modric and casemiro because these players experience are vital when the going get tough.

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March 30, 2022, 09:08:35 AM
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Looking at last season's game between Chelsea vs Real Madrid I think it's difficult for Real Madrid to win the game.
I'm sure Chelsea will repeat last season by getting rid of Real Madrid again. But if we talk about winning the Champions League this season I doubt that Chelsea will repeat to be Champions again.

Well, the same argumentation existed here even before the PSG game. The tenor was that PSG is the clear favorite and Real is too old to have a chance. As we know, it came differently. I think that the outcome of the game is completely open and you can not talk about a favorite here. Both teams have their strengths and weaknesses, which makes a prediction difficult.
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Looking at last season's game between Chelsea vs Real Madrid I think it's difficult for Real Madrid to win the game.
I'm sure Chelsea will repeat last season by getting rid of Real Madrid again. But if we talk about winning the Champions League this season I doubt that Chelsea will repeat to be Champions again.

Well, the same argumentation existed here even before the PSG game. The tenor was that PSG is the clear favorite and Real is too old to have a chance. As we know, it came differently. I think that the outcome of the game is completely open and you can not talk about a favorite here. Both teams have their strengths and weaknesses, which makes a prediction difficult.
Actually, the predictions we have heard so far also make sense, even during the Paris Saint-Germain match, I am not wrong about all the predictions. But yes, it all depends on the gameplay that takes place on the field. It can turn 180 degrees. Don't forget the luck factor too, it's not uncommon for the team that played better to lose because they weren't so lucky in their match.

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March 30, 2022, 12:04:04 PM
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Real Madrid are very strong when they compete in the Champions League stage while Chelsea are currently having problems with their internal team, I think that it is very likely that Real Madrid can win here and advance to the next round.
Talking about the mentality of the Real Madrid team, there is no doubt because they are the team that has won the most Champions League titles of all time and of course against PSG is clear evidence that their mentality can beat PSG's star players.
Real Madrid have always been good at the champion league but with their present performance at the premiere league will real Madrid be able to beat Chelsea despite Chelsea's internal crisis, I don't think Chelsea will let that effect their championship performance?
The next round may be though for both clubs because of the other clubs like Manchester City or Liverpool who top the table in the just concluded premiere league round, let keep our fingers cross to see the outcome of top 5 clubs that will be playing in the championship this time.


Even though Real Madrid performed well in the Champions League, the opponent they faced in the quarter-finals was one of the English giants Chelsea, where we know that last year Chelsea succeeded in defeating Real Madrid in the same event in the semifinals, this is something that the foster children have to watch out for. Carlo Ancelotti, even though their opponents are currently experiencing an extraordinary financial crisis, but Chelsea are trying to continue to focus on European competitions.this is something Real Madrid should be wary of.

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March 30, 2022, 12:07:27 PM
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After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.

Totally agree. Chelsea are not here by chance,,, yes they cannot really claim to be at the level of City or Bayern, but nobody can deny the talents they have on their squad, some are World Cup winners, others are most expensive players, and their own coach also is top class.

They have a big chance to win, but so do Real and the prize for that is a meeting with Manchester City. I hope it is Real City though, I prefer not to see another English final!

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March 30, 2022, 12:58:23 PM
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After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.

Totally agree. Chelsea are not here by chance,,, yes they cannot really claim to be at the level of City or Bayern, but nobody can deny the talents they have on their squad, some are World Cup winners, others are most expensive players, and their own coach also is top class.

They have a big chance to win, but so do Real and the prize for that is a meeting with Manchester City. I hope it is Real City though, I prefer not to see another English final!
Many hope the same as you. If the final is filled with an English team, it could reduce the excitement of the final match. although those who qualify for the final are of course a strong team and indeed they have fought hard. I think the final will have representatives from England and representatives from Germany.



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March 30, 2022, 02:29:21 PM
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After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.

Totally agree. Chelsea are not here by chance,,, yes they cannot really claim to be at the level of City or Bayern, but nobody can deny the talents they have on their squad, some are World Cup winners, others are most expensive players, and their own coach also is top class.

They have a big chance to win, but so do Real and the prize for that is a meeting with Manchester City. I hope it is Real City though, I prefer not to see another English final!
Real Madrid isn’t going to beat Chelsea, it is true that right now Chelsea FC has its off field problems but they are still far a better unit than this Madrid team. I actually think with Ancelotti, Madrid will not stand a chance against chelsea; Tuchel seems to be more dynamic in his approach compare to him and that is an advantage to Chelsea. I would gladly bet on anything for Chelsea's win.
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 Real Madrid isn’t going to beat Chelsea, it is true that right now Chelsea FC has its off field problems but they are still far a better unit than this Madrid team. I actually think with Ancelotti, Madrid will not stand a chance against chelsea; Tuchel seems to be more dynamic in his approach compare to him and that is an advantage to Chelsea. I would gladly bet on anything for Chelsea's win.

but you know, anything can happen
Chelsea's morale is certainly very low, because without blame a team and the fans are punished because of the owner
I am very sorry for the fans

let's just hope it's a good match, at least

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March 30, 2022, 02:42:39 PM
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Real Madrid isn’t going to beat Chelsea, it is true that right now Chelsea FC has its off field problems but they are still far a better unit than this Madrid team. I actually think with Ancelotti, Madrid will not stand a chance against chelsea; Tuchel seems to be more dynamic in his approach compare to him and that is an advantage to Chelsea. I would gladly bet on anything for Chelsea's win.

it seems you are too optimistic that chelsea will be able to beat madrid, indeed the match will have the potential to provide an interesting spectacle for us and this will be a rematch of last season when chelsea managed to beat madrid in the semifinals, but to be honest I would probably side with madrid in that match because however I see if Ancelotti strategy at Madrid is currently running quite smoothly, and even they are able to win the Spanish Super Cup title and maintain the chance of winning La Liga this season, besides that I am also sure that if Benzema can be play in the match, of course it will make bother chelsea defense as he did against PSG.

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March 30, 2022, 03:10:47 PM
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They are usually playing a hardcore defensive system where the whole defense and midfield try to do whatever it takes to not let the other team have easy positions. This could result with the players resulting to hard fouls just to make sure that the other team knows they can't have an easy chance.

This is not only good in a tactic way, but it is good in psychological way where they would be able to put the other team in a fear where the other team would feel like they can't just go out and playmake, they have to be quick to get rid of the ball if they do not want to get kicked. This could result with a good result for ATM, or it could result with a red card and switch the balance of the game.
Committing a hard violation will result in ATM players getting a red card from the referee, this is what ATM players must avoid so as not to harm them because of a lack of player balance. The ATM style of play will make the opposing team dare not keep the ball at their feet for too long, this condition is what Diego Siemone wants to damage the psychology and plans of the opposing team.
City who still want to win the UCL must be able to get past the obstacles from ATMs, Pep Guardiola is well aware that he will have difficulty with ATMs, but Man City must find a way to score goals against ATM.
This Diego Simeone's  team have been known for their defensive style of play and pretty well, they have been successful with it so far they been able to have kept more Champion's League clean sheets than anyone else since Simeone first appearance in the UEFA competition. City major challenge will be how they will be able to break down the defense of these atletico side or probably get the like likes of De Buryne to try shooting from distance because holding on to ball possession will make atletico to be pretty comfortable.
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March 30, 2022, 03:45:35 PM
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After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.
Sometimes it is difficult to repeat a nice history, Chelsea had a nice history last season at UCL but maybe like last year Real Madrid were eliminated because Chelsea precisely this season instead Madrid eliminated Chelsea, although this is not an easy match to predict and in this first leg match Chelsea are more favourite because they play at home, Chelsea need to win with a big score because if only with a score of 1-0 or 2-0 Madrid is very likely to chase it in the second leg.


Looking at last season's game between Chelsea vs Real Madrid I think it's difficult for Real Madrid to win the game.
I'm sure Chelsea will repeat last season by getting rid of Real Madrid again. But if we talk about winning the Champions League this season I doubt that Chelsea will repeat to be Champions again.
Chelsea quality in the Premier League in the last few matches has been very entertaining, but Chelsea must be careful when dealing with Real Madrid in the Champions League. Real Madrid will be very dangerous when they have the ball. Real Madrid will turn into a savage wolf who can kill the opponent's game because they have a lot of quality. They have proven when dealing with PSG and facing Real Madrid is a tough job for Thomas Tuchel.

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March 30, 2022, 05:17:52 PM
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After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.
Surely this will continue to be repeated how Real Madrid's defeats are often in conditions that make Chelsea benefit. Their condition is now starting to improve and gives a little picture that Chelsea is not affected by any internal crisis. On the other hand, Real Madrid does not want to repeat defeat, armed with past mistakes, maybe today when they face Chelsea at least they are in different circumstances. However, it is a pity that Real Madrid's current formation is not as ideal as it used to be.

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