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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129806 times)
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March 30, 2022, 06:10:28 PM
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I am very confident that Pep Guardiola's men will win with easy to host Atletico Madrid both at home and away

Yes, everyone predicts that City will win easily against Atletico, moreover Pep also knows very well how teams from La Liga are and the strategies they generally use. As I mentioned, if Atletico can hold on to a draw in the first leg, so when they playing at their home base, they will be more confident in front of their fans. However, this will also be a surprise if Atletico win in the 2nd leg and qualify for the next round. coz they are meet one of the strongest team in EPL 2022.

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March 30, 2022, 06:50:34 PM
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The probability of Chelsea winning against Real Madrid in my opinion is much better in the first leg. Chelsea are playing at home and that should be the reason why they will be favorites to win over Real Madrid.

I don't think Real Madrid are far superior to Chelsea this season. Real Madrid's defense is not good, their midfield is not as good as a few seasons ago and they only rely on Benzema as a goalscorer. You will probably know that there will be a tight guard for Benzema in that match if he is really available, and that man-marking strategy will get Real Madrid in trouble.

Vinicius is the second highest scorer in La Liga and Real Madrid have a large pool of players who can score a goal. But in general, Chelsea in the EPL has similar statistics to Real in La Liga - Chelsea has +38 in goals, and Real has + 34. Real has a 69% percentage of games won, and Chelsea has 60% - here Real have a serious advantage, but it is more likely indicates a lower average level of teams compared to the EPL. In general, I think it will be a fight of approximately equal opponents.

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March 30, 2022, 07:42:19 PM
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After all, Chelsea is currently the holder of the defending UCL title and also, in the previous season Chelsea managed to get rid of Madrid in the semi-finals until Chelsea finally won the UCL title last season. Now in the quarter-finals, Chelsea will play again against Real Madrid and of course Chelsea have the motivation and ambition to make this good record continue. But yes, as well as Real Madrid, as a big team they will not give up and will try even harder to beat Chelsea as a way of revenge. With the motivation and ambition of these two teams, of course the match will be tight, I personally find it difficult to predict something like this because both have a chance to qualify.
Totally agree. Chelsea are not here by chance,,, yes they cannot really claim to be at the level of City or Bayern, but nobody can deny the talents they have on their squad, some are World Cup winners, others are most expensive players, and their own coach also is top class.
They have a big chance to win, but so do Real and the prize for that is a meeting with Manchester City. I hope it is Real City though, I prefer not to see another English final!

I don't mind seeing another English final, to be honest. But it would be something to watch Real Madrid achieve something great with this squad. Real Madrid knows how to play smart, and obviously, they have a lot of experience. I am sure that will come in handy against Chelsea. And to be honest they also need a little bit of luck, Just like in the match against PSG. For Real Madrid to be in the fine house everything needs to go in their favor.

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March 30, 2022, 08:19:06 PM
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Vinicius is the second highest scorer in La Liga and Real Madrid have a large pool of players who can score a goal. But in general, Chelsea in the EPL has similar statistics to Real in La Liga - Chelsea has +38 in goals, and Real has + 34. Real has a 69% percentage of games won, and Chelsea has 60% - here Real have a serious advantage, but it is more likely indicates a lower average level of teams compared to the EPL. In general, I think it will be a fight of approximately equal opponents.
It's really balanced indeed.
apart from the results of the EPL and La Liga, look at their performance in the UCL and even their goal ratio is almost the same.
During the Group Stage Chelsea scored 13 goals there and Madrid scored 14 goals. in the Round of 16 Chelsea scored 4 goals from 2 legs and Madrid created 3 goals there.
with this they have scored 17 goals from the UCL competition this season and it is really worth waiting for their game to be like now

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March 30, 2022, 08:25:59 PM
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Looking at last season's game between Chelsea vs Real Madrid I think it's difficult for Real Madrid to win the game.
I'm sure Chelsea will repeat last season by getting rid of Real Madrid again. But if we talk about winning the Champions League this season I doubt that Chelsea will repeat to be Champions again.
Well, the same argumentation existed here even before the PSG game. The tenor was that PSG is the clear favorite and Real is too old to have a chance. As we know, it came differently. I think that the outcome of the game is completely open and you can not talk about a favorite here. Both teams have their strengths and weaknesses, which makes a prediction difficult.

I think we all can agree that Chelsea is a lot better team than PSG. Probably not if we look at the squad of both teams. But, if we look at the current performance of both teams I think Chelsea is going to be the clear winner. So, it is clear that Real Madrid will face a lot more problems against Chelsea than they did against PSG, right? Actually, I really don't think Real Madrid will be able to beat Chelsea.

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March 30, 2022, 08:29:13 PM
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Chelsea are not here by chance,,, yes they cannot really claim to be at the level of City or Bayern, but nobody can deny the talents they have on their squad, some are World Cup winners, others are most expensive players, and their own coach also is top class.

They have a big chance to win, but so do Real and the prize for that is a meeting with Manchester City. I hope it is Real City though, I prefer not to see another English final!
Chelsea could be a great team, they could come here with a lot of power but they are not the same team anymore. Real is still real, whereas chelsea used to be owned by a very rich person, now basically a frozen account type of deal. Like how government freezes the assets such as stocks, cash, gold whatever, they did the same thing to chelsea.

It means that they are having hard time going on like this. They need to find a buyer, and I do not think that it would happen anytime soon neither. This results with them financially being bad, and this results with a horrible morale drop. Tuchel will try his best to keep the team working hard, but even he can't do that for too long.
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March 30, 2022, 08:37:03 PM
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Looking at last season's game between Chelsea vs Real Madrid I think it's difficult for Real Madrid to win the game.
I'm sure Chelsea will repeat last season by getting rid of Real Madrid again. But if we talk about winning the Champions League this season I doubt that Chelsea will repeat to be Champions again.

It is true that Chelsea eliminated Real Madrid last season and this would be enough for Real Madrid to be very careful against them this time. However Real Madrid are performing way better than Chelsea this season. I mean not only the domestic league but also the Champions League. Real Madrid eliminated a very tough opponent like PSG even though they had a big score disadvantage first. This time could be really different and I believe Tuchel is also aware of this. He must get his players well-prepared for this matchup.

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March 30, 2022, 08:47:43 PM
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Committing a hard violation will result in ATM players getting a red card from the referee, this is what ATM players must avoid so as not to harm them because of a lack of player balance. The ATM style of play will make the opposing team dare not keep the ball at their feet for too long, this condition is what Diego Siemone wants to damage the psychology and plans of the opposing team.
City who still want to win the UCL must be able to get past the obstacles from ATMs, Pep Guardiola is well aware that he will have difficulty with ATMs, but Man City must find a way to score goals against ATM.
This Diego Simeone's  team have been known for their defensive style of play and pretty well, they have been successful with it so far they been able to have kept more Champion's League clean sheets than anyone else since Simeone first appearance in the UEFA competition. City major challenge will be how they will be able to break down the defense of these atletico side or probably get the like likes of De Buryne to try shooting from distance because holding on to ball possession will make atletico to be pretty comfortable.

In my opinion, Atletico Madrid is currently in a good form. you know, they have won all of their last five matches. yes, I know that Manchester City is a far better team than Atletico Madrid but I think the way Atletico Madrid is currently playing they might just have a chance against Manchester City. I also think that if City tries to play possession too much, they might suffer, long balls will be the right play in my opinion.

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March 30, 2022, 09:53:24 PM
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Committing a hard violation will result in ATM players getting a red card from the referee, this is what ATM players must avoid so as not to harm them because of a lack of player balance. The ATM style of play will make the opposing team dare not keep the ball at their feet for too long, this condition is what Diego Siemone wants to damage the psychology and plans of the opposing team.
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This Diego Simeone's  team have been known for their defensive style of play and pretty well, they have been successful with it so far they been able to have kept more Champion's League clean sheets than anyone else since Simeone first appearance in the UEFA competition. City major challenge will be how they will be able to break down the defense of these atletico side or probably get the like likes of De Buryne to try shooting from distance because holding on to ball possession will make atletico to be pretty comfortable.

In my opinion, Atletico Madrid is currently in a good form. you know, they have won all of their last five matches. yes, I know that Manchester City is a far better team than Atletico Madrid but I think the way Atletico Madrid is currently playing they might just have a chance against Manchester City. I also think that if City tries to play possession too much, they might suffer, long balls will be the right play in my opinion.

Atletico will do what Atletico Madrid always does,defend hard and try and do something on counter-attacks. Everyone knows how Simeone plays with Atletico and its no secret,Man City has such a powerfull attack that i think they will destroy maybe even Atletico. You cannot defend 10 years all the time honestly.

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March 30, 2022, 09:58:37 PM
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Chelsea quality in the Premier League in the last few matches has been very entertaining, but Chelsea must be careful when dealing with Real Madrid in the Champions League. Real Madrid will be very dangerous when they have the ball. Real Madrid will turn into a savage wolf who can kill the opponent's game because they have a lot of quality. They have proven when dealing with PSG and facing Real Madrid is a tough job for Thomas Tuchel.
The probability of Chelsea winning against Real Madrid in my opinion is much better in the first leg. Chelsea are playing at home and that should be the reason why they will be favorites to win over Real Madrid.

I don't think Real Madrid are far superior to Chelsea this season. Real Madrid's defense is not good, their midfield is not as good as a few seasons ago and they only rely on Benzema as a goalscorer. You will probably know that there will be a tight guard for Benzema in that match if he is really available, and that man-marking strategy will get Real Madrid in trouble.
Real Madrid to me has two challenges that may cost them the champions league qualifications against Chelsea. One of the challenges is Benzema availability. If Karim Benzema is not available for the game, Madrid is obviously gonna struggle. Secondly is the team of Madrid is filled with old men but experienced. Kroos, Modric and Casimero are too old and becoming weak. But Chelsea is rather parading young players that has the ability to bully any player. In terms of strength, Chelsea has it better than Madrid. So, there's also a good chance for Chelsea to qualify.

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March 30, 2022, 10:17:38 PM
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Chelsea quality in the Premier League in the last few matches has been very entertaining, but Chelsea must be careful when dealing with Real Madrid in the Champions League. Real Madrid will be very dangerous when they have the ball. Real Madrid will turn into a savage wolf who can kill the opponent's game because they have a lot of quality. They have proven when dealing with PSG and facing Real Madrid is a tough job for Thomas Tuchel.
The probability of Chelsea winning against Real Madrid in my opinion is much better in the first leg. Chelsea are playing at home and that should be the reason why they will be favorites to win over Real Madrid.

I don't think Real Madrid are far superior to Chelsea this season. Real Madrid's defense is not good, their midfield is not as good as a few seasons ago and they only rely on Benzema as a goalscorer. You will probably know that there will be a tight guard for Benzema in that match if he is really available, and that man-marking strategy will get Real Madrid in trouble.
Real Madrid to me has two challenges that may cost them the champions league qualifications against Chelsea. One of the challenges is Benzema availability. If Karim Benzema is not available for the game, Madrid is obviously gonna struggle. Secondly is the team of Madrid is filled with old men but experienced. Kroos, Modric and Casimero are too old and becoming weak. But Chelsea is rather parading young players that has the ability to bully any player. In terms of strength, Chelsea has it better than Madrid. So, there's also a good chance for Chelsea to qualify.

Real Madrid played 2 hopeless games against Chelsea last season. I seem to remember that once they lost without a chance, and that the other match ended in a draw. Admittedly, that Madrid team had a kind of form crisis at the time. They obviously got a huge boost from that win over PSG. That was great after that 0-1 deficit. I currently rate Real Madrid slightly higher than Chelsea, but these are games that can fall in all directions in terms of results.

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March 30, 2022, 10:35:02 PM
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The probability of Chelsea winning against Real Madrid in my opinion is much better in the first leg. Chelsea are playing at home and that should be the reason why they will be favorites to win over Real Madrid.

I don't think Real Madrid are far superior to Chelsea this season. Real Madrid's defense is not good, their midfield is not as good as a few seasons ago and they only rely on Benzema as a goalscorer. You will probably know that there will be a tight guard for Benzema in that match if he is really available, and that man-marking strategy will get Real Madrid in trouble.

Vinicius is the second highest scorer in La Liga and Real Madrid have a large pool of players who can score a goal. But in general, Chelsea in the EPL has similar statistics to Real in La Liga - Chelsea has +38 in goals, and Real has + 34. Real has a 69% percentage of games won, and Chelsea has 60% - here Real have a serious advantage, but it is more likely indicates a lower average level of teams compared to the EPL. In general, I think it will be a fight of approximately equal opponents.
For me Real Madrid are the underdogs in this match, I know they have world class players like modric, Karim benzema, Kross and Dani cavajar but some of this players have dacline over the years, players like Toni Kross and Marcello can't mark a good opponent for ninety minutes,but this Chelsea side are vibrant and strong they have good players all over the pitch that are young and reliable, Timo Werner, Pulusic, Kai Harvetz, zeyich and Mount this are all very good players that are all desperate to start against the Spanish giant, they still top it with experience like Ngolo Kante, Romelu Lukaku, ceaser azpilicueta and Thiago Silva so if you check things out you will see Chelsea have a better squad.

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March 30, 2022, 10:37:58 PM
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Chelsea quality in the Premier League in the last few matches has been very entertaining, but Chelsea must be careful when dealing with Real Madrid in the Champions League. Real Madrid will be very dangerous when they have the ball. Real Madrid will turn into a savage wolf who can kill the opponent's game because they have a lot of quality. They have proven when dealing with PSG and facing Real Madrid is a tough job for Thomas Tuchel.
The probability of Chelsea winning against Real Madrid in my opinion is much better in the first leg. Chelsea are playing at home and that should be the reason why they will be favorites to win over Real Madrid.
I don't think Real Madrid are far superior to Chelsea this season. Real Madrid's defense is not good, their midfield is not as good as a few seasons ago and they only rely on Benzema as a goalscorer. You will probably know that there will be a tight guard for Benzema in that match if he is really available, and that man-marking strategy will get Real Madrid in trouble.
Real Madrid to me has two challenges that may cost them the champions league qualifications against Chelsea. One of the challenges is Benzema availability. If Karim Benzema is not available for the game, Madrid is obviously gonna struggle. Secondly is the team of Madrid is filled with old men but experienced. Kroos, Modric and Casimero are too old and becoming weak. But Chelsea is rather parading young players that has the ability to bully any player. In terms of strength, Chelsea has it better than Madrid. So, there's also a good chance for Chelsea to qualify.
Real Madrid played 2 hopeless games against Chelsea last season. I seem to remember that once they lost without a chance, and that the other match ended in a draw. Admittedly, that Madrid team had a kind of form crisis at the time. They obviously got a huge boost from that win over PSG. That was great after that 0-1 deficit. I currently rate Real Madrid slightly higher than Chelsea, but these are games that can fall in all directions in terms of results.

You might as well put Real Madrid ahead. But in the first leg, I want to keep Chelsea ahead. This is Chelsea's home match. Last season we saw Chelsea easily win 2-0 at home against Real Madrid. My guess is that this season we will see similar results in the first leg. However, Chelsea's performance at the Santiago Bernabeu will depend on which team qualifies for the next round. Real Madrid is always strong in Bernabeu.

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March 30, 2022, 10:55:51 PM
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Atletico will do what Atletico Madrid always does,defend hard and try and do something on counter-attacks. Everyone knows how Simeone plays with Atletico and its no secret,Man City has such a powerfull attack that i think they will destroy maybe even Atletico. You cannot defend 10 years all the time honestly.

There is no doubt that Manchester City's attacking lineup is very strong. However, Atletico Madrid's defense is not weak. Atletico Madrid will want to score from the counterattack, while Manchester City will play attacking, so it will be bit easier for Atletico's players to score. Moreover, Manchester City has several important matches in a row against strong opponents. And so I doubt the players will be in their full form.

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March 30, 2022, 11:01:25 PM
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Talking about mentality actually Real Madrid is better than Chelsea because last round when Real Madrid defeated PSG we know about how mentality of Real Madrid player there. Chelsea still not get heavy against team on Champion league except with Juventus on group stage,
Yep, this season, Chelsea still didn't face strong opponents like Real Madrid. Juventus can be said not a really strong team because their performance decreased so much after Ronaldo left. Considering the performance of Juventus players, they are experiencing a bad season right now. So, we simply can conclude Juventus isn't a really strong team. While Real Madrid has played against PSG which has many superstars on its squad. They are almost defeated by PSG, luckily Real Madrid has Benzema who can save real Madrid in the previous stage. If we consider this, the mentality of Real Madrid players is definitely more prepared and tested.


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Chelsea may not meet up with the performance point that will give the good chances in the various league as the present club conditions have affected Chelsea negatively the Russian sanctions have stopped the club's from signing new players.
That problem is probably something that Chelsea needs to solve at the moment, although that doesn't mean Chelsea should be underestimated in every game because Chelsea can win unexpectedly despite being hit by problems that put them in a bad shape for now.
But you don't have to think it's down because until now Chelsea are already in the top 8 of the Champions League this season.

I would not treat Chelsea as a team that has problems, much less, the players they have have tremendous quality, and despite the problems they may have, one thing is what happens at the level of management, administration and all the problems that can be fixed through diplomacy and what they show on the pitch is another thing, Chelsea is one of the strongest teams that have ever existed and given the recent problems I don't think they will lower the level , this is not their style. I understand that when making a bet you have to take all these points into account, but you have to trust that the football they always show is very good.

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Atletico will do what Atletico Madrid always does,defend hard and try and do something on counter-attacks. Everyone knows how Simeone plays with Atletico and its no secret,Man City has such a powerfull attack that i think they will destroy maybe even Atletico. You cannot defend 10 years all the time honestly.

There is no doubt that Manchester City's attacking lineup is very strong. However, Atletico Madrid's defense is not weak. Atletico Madrid will want to score from the counterattack, while Manchester City will play attacking, so it will be bit easier for Atletico's players to score. Moreover, Manchester City has several important matches in a row against strong opponents. And so I doubt the players will be in their full form.
Manchester city has many experienced players, Manchester city also has the best coach in the world, even though April is a very tiring month for Manchester city, but I am still optimistic that Manchester city is able to dismantle the ATM defense, even though ATM plays a parking bus game but I believe Manchester city able to break into the ATM goal, because Pepguardiola is the key to Manchester city's victory, because Pepguardiola already knows the weakness of ATMs, because Pepguardiola has long coached Barcelona in the Spanish league.

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March 31, 2022, 06:34:17 AM
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I hope it is Real City though, I prefer not to see another English final!
Real Madrid isn’t going to beat Chelsea, it is true that right now Chelsea FC has its off field problems but they are still far a better unit than this Madrid team. I actually think with Ancelotti, Madrid will not stand a chance against chelsea; Tuchel seems to be more dynamic in his approach compare to him and that is an advantage to Chelsea. I would gladly bet on anything for Chelsea's win.

The way you say this and I am sure the way a lot of people are saying it,,, I am 100% sure now it is a wise choice, in terms of value anyway  Grin

Now almost 4x for them to win, good luck you, show us a bet then if you are so glad Smiley

I don't mind seeing another English final, to be honest. But it would be something to watch Real Madrid achieve something great with this squad. Real Madrid knows how to play smart, and obviously, they have a lot of experience. I am sure that will come in handy against Chelsea. And to be honest they also need a little bit of luck, Just like in the match against PSG. For Real Madrid to be in the fine house everything needs to go in their favor.

Liverpool Spurs was a bad memory for me, I would rather not think about it and seeing another English final with them already playing in FA Cup and league is going to be so boring  Roll Eyes

Of course, it will arguably be the best matchup, but I personally think Bayern in the final is also a best outcome, but that is at expense of Liverpool, which I feel arguably is even better this season.

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March 31, 2022, 07:06:15 AM
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Atletico will do what Atletico Madrid always does,defend hard and try and do something on counter-attacks. Everyone knows how Simeone plays with Atletico and its no secret,Man City has such a powerfull attack that i think they will destroy maybe even Atletico. You cannot defend 10 years all the time honestly.

There is no doubt that Manchester City's attacking lineup is very strong. However, Atletico Madrid's defense is not weak. Atletico Madrid will want to score from the counterattack, while Manchester City will play attacking, so it will be bit easier for Atletico's players to score. Moreover, Manchester City has several important matches in a row against strong opponents. And so I doubt the players will be in their full form.
Manchester city has many experienced players, Manchester city also has the best coach in the world, even though April is a very tiring month for Manchester city, but I am still optimistic that Manchester city is able to dismantle the ATM defense, even though ATM plays a parking bus game but I believe Manchester city able to break into the ATM goal, because Pepguardiola is the key to Manchester city's victory, because Pepguardiola already knows the weakness of ATMs, because Pepguardiola has long coached Barcelona in the Spanish league.

It is no coincidence that the bookmakers indicate this team as the winner, I'm talking about Manchester City.
When I don't know the teams very well, I rely on the quotas, they never lie because they are made by people much more experienced than me and who know the teams.

Manchester City win 7/18
draw 4/1
Atletico Madrid win 81/10!!

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I can see a lot of Manchester City fans making comments on how the club is going to win the champion league but the funny thing is Liverpool to me stand more chance of winning than Manchester City.

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