Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[justdimin]

LOL! What is happening with Pakistani Cricket? Especially what is going through N Shethis's mind? An online cricket coach is not something I have heard in the past and neither I would like to hear in the present. Cricket is not an online classroom it is a physical brain where you need to use your body more than your mind. If this is the situation in Pakistan cricket then I doubt they will be able to organize PSL. If they do then I doubt they will be able to their payments. What a Shit Show PCB would be going to display when PSL starts can be easily imagined by their online viewers?

Even things are not clear about this posting but still you are not understanding this rightly because Mickey Arthur is already busy with this contract as sporting head of Derbyshire, and he doesn't want to end this just because of this now he is not the coach of the Pakistan team his job is just as consultant, and they will hire few other peoples as well because Saqlain Mushtaq is already going after completing his assignment as Pakistan head coach, and he rejected to do job as his replacement.

But, few things are fascinating because after Covid-19 era things are completely changed around the globe, and we have mostly workout with online option which is not bad and hopefully soon we will have completely changes in this all system and mostly teams and clubs will be able to have services of online coaches and trainers which will increase their performance. For more details, you can check here all details available about this: https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/mickey-arthur-set-to-be-appointed-pakistan-team-director-1356583

[YinShuiSiYuan]

I did not know where to post this if you seniors here think it is spam then delete it.

Mickey Arthur set to become World Cricket’s first ONLINE COACH!

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LOL! What is happening with Pakistani Cricket? Especially what is going through N Shethis's mind? An online cricket coach is not something I have heard in the past and neither I would like to hear in the present. Cricket is not an online classroom it is a physical brain where you need to use your body more than your mind. If this is the situation in Pakistan cricket then I doubt they will be able to organize PSL. If they do then I doubt they will be able to their payments. What a Shit Show PCB would be going to display when PSL starts can be easily imagined by their online viewers?

Nowadays everything is getting linked with the online. Whether it is sports, education or some other stuff. People too getting used to it. This doesn't look like a big thing after seeing a friend of mine getting training for boxing online. It is completely physical workout based and he does things according to the order from the trainer. Everywhere it is the need for money that push them to start these kind of stuffs.

So after online education we have online coaches for training  kids for something that is totally physical , like what najam sethi had in mind .
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The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is reportedly gearing up to appoint Mickey Arthur as the 'online coach' of their senior men's national team. It has been reported that Arthur will be available on-site only for limited assignments while parallely working as the full-time coach for Derbyshire County Cricket Club. The decision from PCB has invited mixed reactions from fans while former captain Shahid Afridi also remains skeptical of Arthur's return, that too as an 'online coach'.

[JSRAW]

I was hinting toward ICC vs BCCI on the tax exemption dispute.

Recent reports suggest that for the upcoming ODI world cup, BCCI could lose close to 100 million dollars in taxes and last time they paid around 25 Million USD.

Ideally any funds received by the BCCI from ICC should be tax-free. Because most of the funds end up as salary for the players (both international and domestic) and these players are paying income tax of up to 43% for this amount. Now if the government taxes the amount at source, then it will amount to double taxation. As far as I know, none of the other countries tax funds from ICC. And in almost all the cases, revenues collected from ICC tournaments are tax-free as well. India is the only country that refuses to provide tax exemption. But in this case, the ICC can't do anything. They can't reimburse the taxes, as it will be unfair to the smaller boards.

If India was a rich country then it would be ideal to argue in favor of not taxing them but that's not the case. Australia and England can afford to give them free hand, rest of the cricketing world hardly matters in terms of revenue generation and given ICC's 80% of revenue comes from India only then it becomes a talking point for the Gov.

BTW, I am not hearing much about the ongoing media rights auction. After the sub-continent auction, ICC seems to have gone completely silent over it.

SKY Sports (UK) sealed the media rights deal with the ICC for 8 years. Both parties are yet to disclose the final price and unofficial reports are that the Australian deal is also done for 4 years.

We should get some details soon, fingers are crossed for some spicy drama.  

Regarding BGT.. Iyer is out from the 1st test due to a back injury, he's still in NCA. We are running out of in form middle-order batters, first Pant and now Iyer, arguably the best players of spin in modern cricket. Guess squad needs some changes now.

[pakhitheboss]

India VS Newzealand

The final T20 match which also the series decider will played today. Still hoping that Prithvi Shaw is given a chance in today's match. There no point in selecting him and not giving a chance to play. He has proven in the domestic cricket that he has the ability to score runs at a good striking rate. The pitch in Ahmedabad should be batter friendly otherwise this match too will become boring as the match in Lucknow.

[lixer]

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is reportedly gearing up to appoint Mickey Arthur as the 'online coach' of their senior men's national team. It has been reported that Arthur will be available on-site only for limited assignments while parallely working as the full-time coach for Derbyshire County Cricket Club. The decision from PCB has invited mixed reactions from fans while former captain Shahid Afridi also remains skeptical of Arthur's return, that too as an 'online coach'.

There is too much noise about this appointment because now things are going from bad to worse in Pakistan after change of Chairman they fail to hire any full time coach and now having services like this is surely creating more mess up with many former cricketers are also criticizing this decision from the Najam Sethi but right now taking anything about this is also not fair, but I'm personally feeling now Pakistan cricket is again going down for some years as we have few years back.

Shahid Afridi is also now have some concerns about few things but most chances no one can stop Najam Sethi from his experiments even in past he has good results but now how things will happen nothing is clear and overall Pakistan situation is also going to be more down with Peshawar Masjid Bomb attack.

[Sithara007]

Regarding BGT.. Iyer is out from the 1st test due to a back injury, he's still in NCA. We are running out of in form middle-order batters, first Pant and now Iyer, arguably the best players of spin in modern cricket. Guess squad needs some changes now.

If Iyer is unable to play, then someone else will get the chance. Ranji Trophy championship is over-saturated with quality batsmen. But the selectors give little importance to those who perform there. We always hear analysts complaining about not selecting Sarfaraz Khan to the national team, but no one actually care about players such as Abhimanyu Easwaran and Mayank Agarwal. There is enough depth in the player pool within India. But the selectors need to stop taking instructions from the senior players, regarding team selection and do their job without any bias.

[JSRAW]

Regarding BGT.. Iyer is out from the 1st test due to a back injury, he's still in NCA. We are running out of in form middle-order batters, first Pant and now Iyer, arguably the best players of spin in modern cricket. Guess squad needs some changes now.

If Iyer is unable to play, then someone else will get the chance. Ranji Trophy championship is over-saturated with quality batsmen. But the selectors give little importance to those who perform there. We always hear analysts complaining about not selecting Sarfaraz Khan to the national team, but no one actually care about players such as Abhimanyu Easwaran and Mayank Agarwal. There is enough depth in the player pool within India. But the selectors need to stop taking instructions from the senior players, regarding team selection and do their job without any bias.

In absence of Iyer, Shubman Gill is likely to bat in the middle order as he scored a ton in Bangladesh.

I guess the problem is who should be dropped from the team if some new guy comes in. Atm there are 2 nonperforming players at the Top 6 (KL Rahul and Virat), apart from them every one is scoring runs and management can't drop these 2 guys as the former is VC and the latter is undroppable.

I think Sarfraz should replace SKY in the squad but it's unfortunate that management backing SKY only because of his T-20 form.

Easwaran and Agarwal are both openers and we already have 3 openers in the team, 2 of them (Gill, Rohit) are in good form. I really like Agarwal but he's having a bad time with his form.

[coinerer]

India VS Newzealand

The final T20 match which also the series decider will played today. Still hoping that Prithvi Shaw is given a chance in today's match. There no point in selecting him and not giving a chance to play. He has proven in the domestic cricket that he has the ability to score runs at a good striking rate. The pitch in Ahmedabad should be batter friendly otherwise this match too will become boring as the match in Lucknow.

This is not a topic for discussion about T20 matches.  You posted this in the wrong topic only bumping this topic.  Because there is a separate topic to talk about T20 matches you can go there to discuss about T20 in detail.  But the post you made here is just considered spamming.
T20 Discussion topoc here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102095

[Sithara007]

In absence of Iyer, Shubman Gill is likely to bat in the middle order as he scored a ton in Bangladesh.

I guess the problem is who should be dropped from the team if some new guy comes in. Atm there are 2 nonperforming players at the Top 6 (KL Rahul and Virat), apart from them every one is scoring runs and management can't drop these 2 guys as the former is VC and the latter is undroppable.

I think Sarfraz should replace SKY in the squad but it's unfortunate that management backing SKY only because of his T-20 form.

Easwaran and Agarwal are both openers and we already have 3 openers in the team, 2 of them (Gill, Rohit) are in good form. I really like Agarwal but he's having a bad time with his form.

The first test between India and Australia will start next week, at Vidarbha Cricket Association Stadium in Nagpur. This is the venue where India piled up a 600+ total against Sri Lanka back in 2017/18. Australia played against India here only once, and that was in 2008 (India won by 172 runs).

Out of the 5 bowlers who took 5-wicket test hauls in this stadium, four have been spinners (Jason Krejza in 2008, Ravichandran Ashwin two times in 2015 and Imran Tahir also in 2015). Dale Steyn is the only pacer to do so in Nagpur. Ashwin is included in the squad this time, although I am not sure whether he will play or not. I have noticed somethign interesting. Touring spinners do have a good track record at Nagpur. but the problem for Australia is that they don't have any quality spin bowlers.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

In absence of Iyer, Shubman Gill is likely to bat in the middle order as he scored a ton in Bangladesh.

I guess the problem is who should be dropped from the team if some new guy comes in. Atm there are 2 nonperforming players at the Top 6 (KL Rahul and Virat), apart from them every one is scoring runs and management can't drop these 2 guys as the former is VC and the latter is undroppable.

I think Sarfraz should replace SKY in the squad but it's unfortunate that management backing SKY only because of his T-20 form.

Easwaran and Agarwal are both openers and we already have 3 openers in the team, 2 of them (Gill, Rohit) are in good form. I really like Agarwal but he's having a bad time with his form.

The first test between India and Australia will start next week, at Vidarbha Cricket Association Stadium in Nagpur. This is the venue where India piled up a 600+ total against Sri Lanka back in 2017/18. Australia played against India here only once, and that was in 2008 (India won by 172 runs).

Out of the 5 bowlers who took 5-wicket test hauls in this stadium, four have been spinners (Jason Krejza in 2008, Ravichandran Ashwin two times in 2015 and Imran Tahir also in 2015). Dale Steyn is the only pacer to do so in Nagpur. Ashwin is included in the squad this time, although I am not sure whether he will play or not. I have noticed somethign interesting. Touring spinners do have a good track record at Nagpur. but the problem for Australia is that they don't have any quality spin bowlers.

India is at best time of thier game either its any format test, ODI and T20 . They were unbeaten most of the times ,now let's see how things will be with Australia as they are stronger like India and there is going to be a tough match between these two teams.

[BobK71]

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is reportedly gearing up to appoint Mickey Arthur as the 'online coach' of their senior men's national team. It has been reported that Arthur will be available on-site only for limited assignments while parallely working as the full-time coach for Derbyshire County Cricket Club. The decision from PCB has invited mixed reactions from fans while former captain Shahid Afridi also remains skeptical of Arthur's return, that too as an 'online coach'.

There is too much noise about this appointment because now things are going from bad to worse in Pakistan after change of Chairman they fail to hire any full time coach and now having services like this is surely creating more mess up with many former cricketers are also criticizing this decision from the Najam Sethi but right now taking anything about this is also not fair, but I'm personally feeling now Pakistan cricket is again going down for some years as we have few years back.

Shahid Afridi is also now have some concerns about few things but most chances no one can stop Najam Sethi from his experiments even in past he has good results but now how things will happen nothing is clear and overall Pakistan situation is also going to be more down with Peshawar Masjid Bomb attack.

Pakistan's economy is in crisis. The impact of inflation is one evident. In addition to increasing unemployment, various types of unpleasant events are now being heard almost every day, so I do not think it will be possible to get a good coach for Pakistan team in the current situation. As far as I know, they are waiting for the loan to the IMF. As long as they get it, everyone is assuming that their situation will not be changed. The hostile condition of the global economy and the flood in Pakistan are creating a major crisis. As a result, they will not be able to overcome this situation very soon.

[JSRAW]

Ashwin is included in the squad this time, although I am not sure whether he will play or not. I have noticed somethign interesting. Touring spinners do have a good track record at Nagpur. but the problem for Australia is that they don't have any quality spin bowlers.

Ashwin's spot in the playing XI is in danger? Why would you think that?

He has 5 test tons and 449 wickets under his belt and singlehandedly won countless matches for India and its home series. Jaddu-Ashwin-Axar trio should be the first pick for the selectors and you could also throw kuldeep in the mix if by any chance Axar or Jaddu is out of form.

[SirLancelot]

Ashwin's spot in the playing XI is in danger? Why would you think that?

He has 5 test tons and 449 wickets under his belt and singlehandedly won countless matches for India and its home series. Jaddu-Ashwin-Axar trio should be the first pick for the selectors and you could also throw kuldeep in the mix if by any chance Axar or Jaddu is out of form.

Here I am also feeling Ashwin could be their first choice for the test spot with Jaddu and Axar because he is still key player and can give good performance for team single-handedly with batting is plus point for him with his 5 test centuries and experience is also important.

But if team have any issue then surely they can drop anyone from Jaddu or Axar for having Kuldeep into team, but this all depends on pitch and match day what strategy they will adopt for having good results against Australia, touring party is also doing their homework, and surely they will give some surprises during match as they are famous for this all and their experience to play against Pakistan and Sri Lanka is surely going to help them even India is the toughest place for them in this series.

[jaberwock]

Pakistan's economy is in crisis. The impact of inflation is one evident. In addition to increasing unemployment, various types of unpleasant events are now being heard almost every day, so I do not think it will be possible to get a good coach for Pakistan team in the current situation. As far as I know, they are waiting for the loan to the IMF. As long as they get it, everyone is assuming that their situation will not be changed. The hostile condition of the global economy and the flood in Pakistan are creating a major crisis. As a result, they will not be able to overcome this situation very soon.

It's not all about economy and crisis Pakistan has never been ideal place for foreigners to go and do coaching job because if in next few months we have changes in government then surely things could be change and new management will quickly sack them just because of this many big names never try to have any role in this country for providing services because recently I was reading they contact with few big names, but all rejected their offer their board is having political influence, and they have never been having ideal sports environment which is also for the better results.

Too many allegations about selection and have parchi system is also common, so things are not ideal with now in coming days we have PSL2023 which is also had few issues with few players are already in teams even they have allegations of spot fixing and other issues as well which is never been good for the spirit of the game.

[Minecache]

Ashwin's spot in the playing XI is in danger? Why would you think that?
He has 5 test tons and 449 wickets under his belt and singlehandedly won countless matches for India and its home series. Jaddu-Ashwin-Axar trio should be the first pick for the selectors and you could also throw kuldeep in the mix if by any chance Axar or Jaddu is out of form.

Here I am also feeling Ashwin could be their first choice for the test spot with Jaddu and Axar because he is still key player and can give good performance for team single-handedly with batting is plus point for him with his 5 test centuries and experience is also important.

But if team have any issue then surely they can drop anyone from Jaddu or Axar for having Kuldeep into team, but this all depends on pitch and match day what strategy they will adopt for having good results against Australia, touring party is also doing their homework, and surely they will give some surprises during match as they are famous for this all and their experience to play against Pakistan and Sri Lanka is surely going to help them even India is the toughest place for them in this series.

I think in any other format Ashwin is not a very good choice. But especially in test format, I think Ashwin is better than most other choices that India has right now.

So, I think they are actually going to play Ashwin.

Kuldeep is a good bowler. But I think he is most useful at T20. He is not very well when it comes to the test format in my opinion. So, I think they will be making the right choice if they do go with Ashwin.

[posi]

Pakistan's economy is in crisis. The impact of inflation is one evident. In addition to increasing unemployment, various types of unpleasant events are now being heard almost every day, so I do not think it will be possible to get a good coach for Pakistan team in the current situation. As far as I know, they are waiting for the loan to the IMF. As long as they get it, everyone is assuming that their situation will not be changed. The hostile condition of the global economy and the flood in Pakistan are creating a major crisis. As a result, they will not be able to overcome this situation very soon.

It's not all about economy and crisis Pakistan has never been ideal place for foreigners to go and do coaching job because if in next few months we have changes in government then surely things could be change and new management will quickly sack them just because of this many big names never try to have any role in this country for providing services because recently I was reading they contact with few big names, but all rejected their offer their board is having political influence, and they have never been having ideal sports environment which is also for the better results.]
Too many allegations about selection and have parchi system is also common, so things are not ideal with now in coming days we have PSL2023 which is also had few issues with few players are already in teams even they have allegations of spot fixing and other issues as well which is never been good for the spirit of the game.

I know that I have always been someone who has been a supporter of Pakistan cricket. But I think this time it is actually Pakistan that should fix their problems first. I think it is only right to change the venue if there are actually some big problems with politics. it is generally hard to host a big tournament after so many allegations.

But I am actually happy that Pakistan is showing the courage that they are ready to do it. I honestly think that the situation in Pakistan is not going to be so bad If somehow Pakistan and India can't start working together.

[Sithara007]

Ashwin is included in the squad this time, although I am not sure whether he will play or not. I have noticed somethign interesting. Touring spinners do have a good track record at Nagpur. but the problem for Australia is that they don't have any quality spin bowlers.

Ashwin's spot in the playing XI is in danger? Why would you think that?

He has 5 test tons and 449 wickets under his belt and singlehandedly won countless matches for India and its home series. Jaddu-Ashwin-Axar trio should be the first pick for the selectors and you could also throw kuldeep in the mix if by any chance Axar or Jaddu is out of form.

OK.. my bad. For now, let's assume that Ashwin will lead the spin attack for India, along with Jadeja and Axar. Jadeja has been out of action for sometime, but he performed well recently in one of the Ranji trophy matches. Regarding Kuldeep Yadav, he has a terrific test record (bowling average of 21.55) but unfortunately he is not going to be the first pick for the selectors. And most of his wickets have come against weak teams such as Bangladesh. On the other hand, Australia are going to struggle with their spin options. Nathan Lyon is the only experienced spin bowler in their squad.

[JSRAW]

Ashwin is included in the squad this time, although I am not sure whether he will play or not. I have noticed somethign interesting. Touring spinners do have a good track record at Nagpur. but the problem for Australia is that they don't have any quality spin bowlers.

Ashwin's spot in the playing XI is in danger? Why would you think that?

He has 5 test tons and 449 wickets under his belt and singlehandedly won countless matches for India and its home series. Jaddu-Ashwin-Axar trio should be the first pick for the selectors and you could also throw kuldeep in the mix if by any chance Axar or Jaddu is out of form.

OK.. my bad. For now, let's assume that Ashwin will lead the spin attack for India, along with Jadeja and Axar. Jadeja has been out of action for sometime, but he performed well recently in one of the Ranji trophy matches. Regarding Kuldeep Yadav, he has a terrific test record (bowling average of 21.55) but unfortunately he is not going to be the first pick for the selectors. And most of his wickets have come against weak teams such as Bangladesh. On the other hand, Australia are going to struggle with their spin options. Nathan Lyon is the only experienced spin bowler in their squad.

Kuldeep is a fine leg spinner and has taken a fair amount of Aussie wickets in red-ball cricket including 5fer. Taking a bag of Bong's wickets is just a recent thing.

If we look only from a bowling perspective then he should play ahead of Axar (it doesn't mean he's better or worse than Axar). It's just Axar and Jadeja are both left-hand off spinners and Kuldeep can provide more variety in your bowling attack.

Having said that, Pant and Iyer are not available in the middle order so Axar's batting at 9 can be very handy as he's a superior batter in comparison to Kuldeep, latter is okay too but the former can play attacking cricket as well. 

Aussie hired a lot of local Indian spinners for net practice, which include a carbon copy of Ashwin in terms of bowling action and variation, their batters look really serious.

[MusaPk]

Seeing Zimbabwe playing a test match after a long time. The first test between Zimbabwe and West Indies is in progress at Bulawayo. West Indies have a slow start as they have made 54 runs in 27 overs (going with just 2 runs per over).
Tagenarine Chanderpaul son of legend S Chanderpaul is opening from West Indies side. He has played 2 test matches and we have yet to see century from him. It's a good chance for him to score century.

[JSRAW]

Seeing Zimbabwe playing a test match after a long time. The first test between Zimbabwe and West Indies is in progress at Bulawayo. West Indies have a slow start as they have made 54 runs in 27 overs (going with just 2 runs per over).
Tagenarine Chanderpaul son of legend S Chanderpaul is opening from West Indies side. He has played 2 test matches and we have yet to see century from him. It's a good chance for him to score century.

Is this part of the World Test Championship? Can't find anything regarding this.

Anyway good to know Zimbawae is getting some game time in the red ball. Chaderpaul Junior is a good bat, he scored a fair amount of runs on his last Australian tour and impressed many.